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Old 08-29-2008, 03:29 PM   #251 (permalink)
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Oh no ... nobody's ever going to conceive THAT way.

up the bum, no babies!

no wonder it's harder to get pregnant when you're older.
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Oh no ... nobody's ever going to conceive THAT way.

Unless they have an rectum to vagina fistula
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:31 PM   #254 (permalink)
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Oh no ... nobody's ever going to conceive THAT way.

LOL

well a lot of conception numbers are given per anum

Basically like ... if you have sex with average frequency with fertile man over the course of a year, your chance of getting pregnant is .. X ..

Of course some of us .. stop taking birth control pills due to complications for a week and end up pregnant.
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:34 PM   #255 (permalink)
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I guess

"He laughed when someone else called Hillary a bitch" doesn't quite have the same impact.
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WHAT??????

McCain was a POW?

holy fuck..

If it wasn't for his admiral father he'd of been shipped off as a grunt and killed along with thousand of other faceless soldiers sent into a sensless massacre...

He was a dreadful pilot.. lost 6 planes in his career... finished near bottom of his class...

also, any truth to the rumour about him accidentally firing ordinance on a carrier that resulted in the deaths of 125 sailors?

Richie maybe you should learn some of the military history of the Vietnam War before spouting dribble that sounds like you paraphrased Tom Hayden or Abbie Hoffman on a bad drug induced philibuster.

Here's you collecting facts:

Richie:

"I heard from this guy, who knew an American, who knew another American, who saw John McCain get an exemption to fly planes instead of carry a 125 pound rucksack in the Ashau Valley!!"

Intelligent historian: "No, he was accepted into the Naval Academy and graduated in 1958 (well before the Vietnam War or even Dominican crisis) and as a result had to serve his mandatory service as a commissioned officer--he didn't evade or escape anything."

Richie: "Dude, after this concert this guy told me he was a bad flier and killed a gazillion sailors"

"Intelligent historian":

www.usnavy.mil--
It was just about 10:50 a.m. (local time). The launch that was scheduled for a short time later was never made. Lt. Cmdr. John S. McCain III, later a prisoner of war in Vietnam and still later U.S. Senator from Arizona, said later he heard a "whooshy" sound then a "low-order explosion" in front of him. Suddenly, two A-4s ahead of his plane were engulfed in flaming jet fuel — JP-5 — spewed from them. A bomb dropped to the deck and rolled about six feet and came to rest in a pool of burning fuel.

The awful conflagration, which was to leave 132 Forrestal crewmen dead, 62 more injured and two missing and presumed dead, had begun. The entire nation felt the tragedy, and Life magazine reported that "in five minutes, everyone became a man." The ship returned to Norfolk for extensive repairs.


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USS Forrestal (CV 59)

July 29, 1967 - The worst accident aboard a US Navy surface vessel since WWII.

On July 29, 1967 the USS FORRESTAL was operating on Yankee Station off the coast of North Vietnam conducting combat operations. This was the fifth such day of operations and at 10:52am the crew was starting the second launch cycle of the day, when suddenly a Zuni rocket accidentally fired from an F-4 Phantom into a parked and armed A-4 Skyhawk. The accidental launch and subsequent impact caused the belly fuel tank and a 1,000 pound bomb on the Skyhawk to fall off, the tank broke open spilling JP5 (jet fuel) onto the flight deck and ignited a fire. Within a minute and a half the bomb was the first to cook-off and explode, this caused a massive chain reaction of explosions that engulfed half the airwings aircraft, and blew huge holes in the steel flight deck. Fed by fuel and bombs from other aircraft that were armed and ready for the coming strike, the fire spread quickly, many pilots and support personnel were trapped and burned alive.
Fuel and bombs spilled into the holes in the flight deck igniting fires on decks further into the bowels of the ship. Berthing spaces immediately below the flight deck became death traps for fifty men, while other crewmen were blown overboard by the explosion.
Nearby ships hastened to the FORRESTAL's aid. The ORISKANY (CV 34), herself a victim of a tragic fire in October 1966, stood by to offer fire-fighting and medical aid to the larger carrier. Nearby escort vessels sprayed water on the burning FORRESTAL and within an hour the fire on the flight deck was under control. The crew heroically fought the fire and carried armed bombs to the side of the ship to throw them overboard for 13 hours. Secondary fires below deck took another 12 hours to contain.

Once the fires were under control, the extent of the devastation was apparent. Most tragic was the loss to the crew, 134 had lost their lives, while an additional 64 were injured, this was and still remains the single worst loss of life on a navy vessel since the USS FRANKLIN (CV 13) was bombed in WWII. The ship proceeded to Cubi Point in the Philippines for temporary repairs. In only eight days enough repairs were made that she could start the long trip back to her home port of Norfolk, Virginia for permanent repairs. On her way home she was capable of operating aircraft if needed.

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I completely agree. I am well on record here as saying that a person's gender shouldn't even be asked or appear on the marriage license. I go further than supporting gay marriage. I support gender neutral marriage. The gender of my life partner is nobody else's business.
thanks, i haven't thought of it that way before. consenting adult? good enough.
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Yeah we don't know enough about the data there.

If they include menopausal women in it - of course there will be a rapid decline.

They seem to.
They have to, because it's not just like some switch flips and you get a big red M on your forehead.
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And a damned good one, I'll wager
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You?

If you are going to roll eyes at McCain making his service part of his campaign then it's a bit silly to listen to Obama talk about his childhood and his father like that means anything either.

In fact, I do think it means something, in both cases.

People want to know where you come from and what you have experienced in life to get a sense of who you are.

But come on, military service is one of those things that every single politician crows about, democrat and republican, and if Obama served you would hear no end of it either.

It's that kind of bs critique that annoys me.

McCain is unacceptable because of his positions, period. He opens his mouth and it's over.
Me? I'm claiming Obama's Indonesian childhood qualifies him for president????

I don't roll eyes from McCain's service - far from it. I come from a military (and staunchly Democratic one) as well. But McCain is in very serious danger of cheapening it as he gives the POW response to everything from his housing empire to his divorce rationale to his choice of pop music. Brave Republic made the dubious clams that "all you need to know" about how McCain woud run the country could be gleaned from his 5 years in a box. I disagree and so do you.
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thanks, i haven't thought of it that way before. consenting adult? good enough.
As a Libertarian, I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. That neatly removes the question from the public debate, gay people are happy, and non-evangelical straight people are happy. Win-win.
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Yea.. his acceptance into the naval accedemy had nout to do with his father... yep.

just like Bush...

btw I know enough to label Vietnam a senseless slaughter.. infact.. terrorism.
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They have to, because it's not just like some switch flips and you get a big red M on your forehead.
What kind of clueless comment is that.

It would be possible to not include menopausal women in some way.

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How about this one - Don't include any women that have not had a cycle in 5 years.

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btw I know enough to label Vietnam a senseless slaughter.. infact.. terrorism.
In other words, nothing.
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also, any truth to the rumour about him accidentally firing ordinance on a carrier that resulted in the deaths of 125 sailors?
The History Channel produced a great show on the USS Forrestal incident. Go check it out.
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How about this one - Don't include any women that have not had a cycle in 5 years.
That would just distort the data and make it useless.

Edit- to elaborate, you'd get artifacts of the methodology in the data. There would be a period where fertility would seem to drop for 5 years, then start rising again. Stuff like that.
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Yea.. his acceptance into the naval accedemy had nout to do with his father... yep.

just like Bush...

btw I know enough to label Vietnam a senseless slaughter.. infact.. terrorism.
This isn't like Bush at all.

It is not necessary to be in the Naval Academy to become a Naval Officer / Pilot.

Especially in Vietnam.

All my father had to do is go to college, which was completely paid fr by the Navy. And he is from a working class background. My grandfather was an auto worker.
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In other words, nothing.
What was I thinking... the great and exceptional American Cindy thinks it was a noble quest into the heart of Evil...

you right.. it was a unavoidable war
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This isn't like Bush at all.

It is not necessary to be in the Naval Academy to become a Naval Officer / Pilot.

Especially in Vietnam.

All my father had to do is go to college, which was completely paid fr by the Navy. And he is from a working class background. My grandfather was an auto worker.
Yea.. okay...
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That would just distort the data and make it useless.

Edit- to elaborate, you'd get artifacts of the methodology in the data. There would be a period where fertility would seem to drop for 5 years, then start rising again. Stuff like that.
Maybe 5 years is too long.

However including them when trying to show the fertility rate for NON-MENOPAUSAL women - skews the data even more.
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This isn't like Bush at all.

It is not necessary to be in the Naval Academy to become a Naval Officer / Pilot.

Especially in Vietnam.

All my father had to do is go to college, which was completely paid fr by the Navy. And he is from a working class background. My grandfather was an auto worker.
It's ok, Colette. Richie learned his history from the World Socialist Website. So there's no point in trying to get through to him with facts.
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This thread is crazy. Menopause then vietnam ever other post. WTH

I thought the point of letting the baby boomers die off is that we could finally stop hearing about Vietnam.
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What was I thinking... the great and exceptional American Cindy thinks it was a noble quest into the heart of Evil...

you right.. it was a unavoidable war
Wow, when you go off the meds you really dive off the deep end doncha?

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