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Old 08-07-2008, 12:15 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Once in awhile they have valid points. If they hadn't of fucked up and weren't so apeshit nuts they might of actually helped a few real issues. I think it's way way to late for that now though.

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There is a town up here in NoCA. called Rodeo. PETA was pressuring them to change the name of their town because it represents animal cruelty.
They waste WAY too much energy on nitpicking.
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peta also want shot of all companion animals, including guide dogs for the blind, and the removal of all animal products from medicine?

diabetic? you are fucked if peta had their way
IIRC - the president of PETA, that woman, she is diabetic and takes those medicines.

She has justified that hypocrisy by claiming (paraphrased by me, I don't have the direct quote on me) "I am fighting for the good cause. Those animals would have given their lives for me willingly"

edit: can't find a source, so don't take my word for it

edit 2: seems I was thinking of the wrong woman. Found this:

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PETA Senior Vice President MaryBeth Sweetland on her use of insulin, which was tested on animals:
"I'm an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products -- and I have no qualms about it ... I'm not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin. I don't see myself as a hypocrite. I need my life to fight for the rights of animals."
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IIRC - the president of PETA, that woman, she is diabetic and takes those medicines.

She has justified that hypocrisy by claiming (paraphrased by me, I don't have the direct quote on me) "I am fighting for the good cause. Those animals would have given their lives for me willingly"

(edit: can't find a source, so don't take my word for it)
i think it was the vice president, cant remember her name, but her justifcation was 'i need my life to save those animals'

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i think it was the vice president, cant remember her name, but her justifcation was 'i need my life to save those animals'

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Found the source, you're right. And I edited my post.
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"I am fighting for the good cause. Those animals would have given their lives for me willingly"

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I'd like to see a demonstration of this. I'll bring the barbecue grill.
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IIRC - the president of PETA, that woman, she is diabetic and takes those medicines.

She has justified that hypocrisy by claiming (paraphrased by me, I don't have the direct quote on me) "I am fighting for the good cause. Those animals would have given their lives for me willingly"

edit: can't find a source, so don't take my word for it

edit 2: seems I was thinking of the wrong woman. Found this:



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At the same time she's also publicly stated that if animal testing found a cure for HIV she would still protest against it.

Meanwhile her postergirl, Pamela Anderson, has hepatitis and requires medication derived from animal testing to keep it under control.
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I also got in a magazine about it.

Wait, those fuckers were responsible for the show ALF?
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I also got in a magazine about it.

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All kidding aside, I agreed with PETA against the fur industry, and I agree that the meat industry is cruel. But they lost me when they were throwing paint on people wearing fur coats. And bombing peoples houses who work with lab animals (I guess that's the ALF who does that).
I hope the WWF is still cool.
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All kidding aside, I agreed with PETA against the fur industry, and I agree that the meat industry is cruel. But they lost me when they were throwing paint on people wearing fur coats. And bombing peoples houses who work with lab animals (I guess that's the ALF who does that).
I hope the WWF is still cool.
You know. If they threw their paint on leather-clad hell's angels instead - they would get some respect from me again.

Honourless bastards to attack defenseless women.
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i do think that we should be responsible regarding animal welfare, and needless cruelty but its when animal rights activists think that this...

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is ok behaviour, that i go the other way and want to see what swan tastes like

plus isnt a guinea pig made for experimentation? the clue is in the name
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peta also want shot of all companion animals, including guide dogs for the blind, and the removal of all animal products from medicine?

diabetic? you are fucked if peta had their way
I'm not sure exactly what's true and what's not about media's view about PETA, but what I do know is that medicine testing isn't as simple question as you might think it is.

You remember the Nevrocedyne (sorry about spelling) scandal. A lot of young mothers ate medicine to calm them down thinking it was safe. The medicine company that had tested them on animals said they were. And it was safe - for the animals, but not for the unborn babies.

Have you tried aspirine? Scientists has found that it's not only good for pain relief but has a lot of other benefits too. Well guineapigs die from it. If they had been dependant only on the animal testing, we wouldn't be able to use aspirine.

There's an organization in the US that, have forgotten the name, but it's an organization for medical doctors that are against animal testing, not because of the animals, but the risks of being dependent on them.

A lot of the money fo aids research goes to the attempts to get monkeys to get aids, they don't usually get that, only HIV. Is that where we want the research money to go?
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I'm not sure exactly what's true and what's not about media's view about PETA, but what I do know is that medicine testing isn't as simple question as you might think it is.

You remember the Nevrocedyne (sorry about spelling) scandal. A lot of young mothers ate medicine to calm them down thinking it was safe. The medicine company that had tested them on animals said they were. And it was safe - for the animals, but not for the unborn babies.

Have you tried aspirine? Scientists has found that it's not only good for pain relief but has a lot of other benefits too. Well guineapigs die from it. If they had been dependant only on the animal testing, we wouldn't be able to use aspirine.

There's an organization in the US that, have forgotten the name, but it's an organization for medical doctors that are against animal testing, not because of the animals, but the risks of being dependent on them.

A lot of the money fo aids research goes to the attempts to get monkeys to get aids, they don't usually get that, only HIV. Is that where we want the research money to go?

ingrid newkirk, the president of peta herself stated that companion animals are slaves, and petas job would not be completed until they are freed

and as for medical testing, i would choose a sick person over an animal anyday, and testing on guinea pigs is NOT the only trial people use - its tested and tested and tested again -
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Claiming that the "murder" of millions of broiler hens equates to the Nazi Holocaust, and trying to dump tranquilizers into a lake to disrupt a bass fishing tournament are just two examples of the sort of nutbags these people are.

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chickens/dogs/cows/pigs are domesticated

they wouldnt exist unless we used them in some way

comparing human atrocities with animal cruelty is unacceptable and insulting to those who have suffered
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And here's another thing occurs to me about PETA. When are they going to stand up for the animals that are savagely attacked, killed, and eaten by the other animals?

Eaten ALIVE, even!

And - what will those animals eat when they can't eat other animals anymore?

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and as for medical testing, i would choose a sick person over an animal anyday, and testing on guinea pigs is NOT the only trial people use - its tested and tested and tested again -
So, why did the Nevrocedyne scandal happen? If they are testing and testing again?

People are choosing every day. The scientists decided to play god over the children with learning disabilities because they wanted to 'save' people from radiation poisoning.
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