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Old 05-15-2018, 10:10 AM   #301 (permalink)
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It happened on November 8, 2016, when an unqualified candidate won a minority victory in a corrupted election thanks in part to foreign intervention. Any time is the right time to pour into the streets and demand that it all grinds to a halt and the country change direction. The evidence that the candidate and his goons were aided by and enthusiastically collaborating with a foreign power was pretty clear before that election, and at this point, they are so entangled there isnt really a reason to regard the born-again alt-right Republican Party and the Putin Regime as separate entities.
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Old 05-15-2018, 04:46 PM   #306 (permalink)
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Looks like Trump has been trumped.
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The most depressing part of this is that it is actually a rational reaction on NK's part since the USA can't be trusted to uphold its side of any agreement.

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But I thought Trump had single-handedly secured peace between North and South Korea? His supporters have already been smugly celebrating the achievement, so it must have happened for sure.
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The most depressing part of this is that it is actually a rational reaction on NK's part since the USA can't be trusted to uphold its side of any agreement.
It's also a perfectly rational move in the one-upsmanship department.

Who's a bigger deal than the guy who got a meeting with POTUS? The guy who cancelled that meeting. Dick size +8000.

45 thinks he's playing tic-tac-toe with a toddler -- he's playing multiple games of 3D chess against the whole crew of the Enterprise and that computer Uhuru is always talking with.
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The most depressing part of this is that it is actually a rational reaction on NK's part since the USA Drumpster and the Repugs can't be trusted to uphold its side of any agreement.
but I had to fix it first. Sorry.

The rest of us aren't like those idiots.




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I'd be curious to see how much of that is funded by defense spending, because those goods certainly aren't shouldn't be one of our exports.
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I'd be curious to see how much of that is funded by defense spending, because those goods certainly aren't shouldn't be one of our exports.
The US is the world's largest arms dealer

Industry accounts for 20% of US GDP, or about $4 trillion a year. I'd have to dig around to find a breakdown of defense spending between hardware and other items. The Defense Department employs 2 million people between active duty and civilian staff, so that's a big chunk right there.
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A temporary solution before one finds a final solution, I suppose.

I dearly hope I'm hyperbolizing.

ETA: Context in the first comment on that tweet, the question was about that M-13 gang. So do read that bit.

I hope I don't have to start side eying C-Span now too. :|

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Thanks, I did not know the numbers offhand but knew we exported arms a LOT. All those planes for example .... even owned by regimes we do not like.
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A temporary solution before one finds a final solution, I suppose.

I dearly hope I'm hyperbolizing.

ETA: Context in the first comment on that tweet, the question was about that M-13 gang. So do read that bit.

I hope I don't have to start side eying C-Span now too. :|
Trump's ball cleaners are quickly trying to walk this back, claiming that he only means gang members and such. No, of course not, it couldn't possibly be that using words like that to describe immigrants dehumanizes people which is in the fascism playbook.

Step 1: Declare gang members are animals
Step 2: Falsify info if you have to in order to assert that immigrants are gang members
Step 3: Justify all manner of removal of rights based upon false allegations

Well, here we have a story of a DACA case. If you aren't a gang member, therefore not eligible for the "animal" status, ICE will lie in court and falsify your own written statement in order to portray you as one.

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ICE then interrogated Ramirez, fingerprinted and booked him, confiscated his work permit, sent him to a detention center, and placed him in removal proceedings. It also purported to revoke his DACA status, subjecting him to imminent deportation. Typically, the government may not rescind an individual’s DACA status without giving the beneficiary an opportunity to contest its decision. But ICE claimed that Ramirez’s DACA benefits could be terminated “automatically” because he presented an “egregious public safety concern” due to his alleged gang affiliation. (ICE routinely alleges that Latino immigrants with no indication of gang affiliation are members of a gang in order to detain and deport them.)
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During his initial interrogation, ICE officers asked him five times whether he belonged to a gang, and he repeatedly said no. Instead, he asserted that he had “fled California [to Washington] to escape from the gangs.”

There was no reason to doubt Ramirez’s story, and good reason to believe it. If he had been in a gang, after all, the government would’ve already known. To renew his DACA status, Ramirez had to undergo two thorough background checks. Neither turned up any evidence of gang affiliation.
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One of his lawyers, Mark Rosenbaum, presented evidence indicating that ICE had doctored Ramirez’s statement by erasing words he had written in the pencil provided to make it seem as if he had confessed to being in a gang. (The original statement asserts he has no gang affiliation.) During his initial interrogation, ICE officers asked him five times whether he belonged to a gang, and he repeatedly said no. Instead, he asserted that he had “fled California [to Washington] to escape from the gangs.”
The government said it included the line, “I have gang affiliation with gangs so I wear an orange uniform.” But on Thursday, the Stranger published a photograph of the appeal—and it clearly shows that Ramirez had written in pencil: “I came in and the officers said I have gang affiliation with gangs so I wear an orange uniform. I do not have a criminal history and I’m not affiliated with any gangs.”

Ramirez’s lawyers allege that ICE officials doctored the document to prove that he belonged to a gang. The words “I came in and the officers said” were clearly erased so that the statement began with the statement “I have gang affiliation.”

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Trump's ball cleaners are quickly trying to walk this back, claiming that he only means gang members and such. No, of course not, it couldn't possibly be that using words like that to describe immigrants dehumanizes people which is fascism step #1.
Pulling this part out. Yes, absolutely agreed, and as Nibb pointed out above, absolutely still human beings.

I'm squinting more and more at quickie soundbites though, and demanding of news agencies more detailed information and don't feel that's a bad thing. If someone takes the preceding line of questioning and excuses dehumanization based on group affiliation, well, that chap just self-identified as a fascist. My bad if there was any confusion based on my critique of C-Span's handling.

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