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Old 04-13-2018, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Comey's Memoir

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Comey’s Memoir Offers Visceral Details on a President ‘Untethered to Truth’

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“This president is unethical, and untethered to truth and institutional values,” Mr. Comey writes in the book, saying his service to Mr. Trump recalled for him the days when he investigated the mob in New York. “The silent circle of assent. The boss in complete control. The loyalty oaths. The us-versus-them worldview. The lying about all things, large and small, in service to some code of loyalty that put the organization above morality and above the truth.” . . .


But in the book, Mr. Comey goes much further than he has before in offering his assessment of the president’s character. Describing one exchange with Mr. Trump and Reince Priebus, then the chief of staff, Mr. Comey comments on the president’s assertions of what “everyone thinks” and what is “obviously true.”


“I could see how easily everyone in the room could become a co-conspirator to his preferred set of facts, or delusions,” Mr. Comey writes about the president. He says he watched Mr. Trump build “a cocoon of alternative reality” around the people in the room.
Mr. Comey devotes a good part of the book to his worry about the damage that Mr. Trump and his presidency are doing to the country’s future.


“We are experiencing a dangerous time in our country,” he writes, “with a political environment where basic facts are disputed, fundamental truth is questioned, lying is normalized and unethical behavior is ignored, excused or rewarded.”
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I did the daily "are we at war" glance at donnie's feed. Looks like nobody has summarized the book for him yet (obviously he is not going to read it).
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To me, other than the obvious revelations about Trump, the detail that is most striking is that this is coming from the former Director of the FBI. It is unprecedented that anyone in the FBI let alone Director would say these things about a sitting president, and yet two things are happening. The people that most need to hear it, the Trumpites, aren't listening and the rest of us are just saying, "Well, duh."

Finally, those that have the power to remove Trump are not only actively refusing to do their job, but lying and covering for him (House Subcommittee as an example).
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Clip from ABC interview with Comey (full interview to be broadcast later)

@Jolene - According to a recent poll (shown in the clip above), more people believe Comey than Trump (48 to 32%). Yeah, his base is going to be hard to get through to. Maybe the Cohen investigation will break something loose to the point they go "WTF?"
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I can't help but think it would have been nicer for the book to come out in late October.
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I can't help but think it would have been nicer for the book to come out in late October.
If it prompts more Republicans to "retire" instead of run for office, it's doing a service to come out now.
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I'll be able to comment a bit more next week after I read it. Preordered it for Kindle several weeks ago.
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Looks like someone told him, lol:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...210633216?s=20

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Comey: Trump asked me to investigate ‘pee tape’ to reassure Melania

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Comey recalls privately wondering why Melania might think there was even a 1 percent chance the allegation was true, noting there was “zero chance” his own wife would believe such a claim.

“In what kind of marriage, to what kind of man, does a spouse conclude there is only a 99 percent chance her husband didn’t do that?” Comey writes.
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“In what kind of marriage, to what kind of man, does a spouse conclude there is only a 99 percent chance her husband didn’t do that?” Comey writes.
The kind of marriage where you're the third wife, and your husband cheated on his first wife with the woman who became the second?
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While I have the highest regard for ferrets (a friend has two, and they are charming and intelligent creatures), I do not think they make an appropriate hairpiece, whether dead or alive, for the President of the USA.
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Ah, it turns out a few mins after my tweet this morning he was tweeting about it. I guess the person that drew the short straw finally told him about it.
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The kind of marriage where you're the third wife, and your husband cheated on his first wife with the woman who became the second?
That's one crystal off the tip of the iceberg. Trump appeared in Playboy videos and talked on live TV about how bangable his own daughter is...
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I can't imagine even this liberal group would be in favor of the FBI involving itself in politics because they don't agree with the voice of the people. As far is the special council, wait until the roles are reversed if you think this is healthy.
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talked on live TV about how bangable his own daughter is...
Just as a daily reminder. He said he wanted to do it too.
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I can't imagine even this liberal group would be in favor of the FBI involving itself in politics because they don't agree with the voice of the people. As far is the special council, wait until the roles are reversed if you think this is healthy.
Dude this IS the role reversal. The second one, as it happens.

The GOP had a pretty good go at the first role reversal, turning around Watergate precedents to bring them to bear on Bill Clinton. Didn't work out too well in the end because all he did was boink an intern and while that's pretty sleazy nobody ever suggested it wasn't completely consensual so it isn't actually against the law.

Funny that, now that you think about it, where a special counsel has investigated sitting presidents it's looking like GOP:2 Dems:nil when it comes to scoring whether the president in question really is a crook or not. If ANY party is stupid enough or corrupt enough to elect a mentally unstable corrupt slimebag to the Oval Office I'd hope he or she WOULD be speedily taken down by an investigation of their actions.

Now, I pretty much no longer have a dog in this fight. I no longer live in the USA and heaven knows, here in Scotland we've enough political shit hitting the fan for me to care only peripherally about the ongoing wreckage of the country I lived in for two decades. Even while I lived in the USA I didn't have much of a party allegiance, being socially quite liberal but economically and fiscally rather conservative. But damn, this guy's bad. He makes Nixon look like a boyscout.
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I've blocked Bubba on the grounds life is too short to bother with some people (he's by no means alone on that list, of course). However, since he's been quoted, I will respond by saying that I don't think many people object to the FBI pursuing clearly criminal misconduct by politicians, whatever the suspects' party.

Furthermore people will recall that, before he took up politics and watching Fox News as a hobby, Trump was a notoriously shady businessman, grifter and scam artist. It's hardly surprising that his affairs, and those of his entourage, won't stand up to the kind of scrutiny public office brings.

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I've blocked Bubba on the grounds life is too short to bother with some people...
My apologies for exposing you to the quote. But when somebody forgets the fundamental rule that when you pull the trigger its a good idea to make sure the muzzle isn't pointing at your own dick....
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You mean like "conservatives" spending 20 years re-litigating a blowjob? Actual criminal activity is 'disagreeing with the voice of the people' but a blowjob needs a special investigation.
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You mean like "conservatives" spending 20 years re-litigating a blowjob? Actual criminal activity is 'disagreeing with the voice of the people' but a blowjob needs a special investigation.
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