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Old 12-31-2017, 09:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mullitary throws Trump the finger, begins to recruit trans soldiers

U.S. Military Set To Allow Recruitment Of Trans People Despite Trump’s Wishes

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On Monday, the U.S. military is set to formally allow transgender citizens to sign up for service ― a historic move likely to rile President Donald Trump.

Federal courts have said that trans citizens can be accepted into the armed forces, and the Defense Department has already issued policy guidelines concerning their recruitment. But Trump could seek a last-minute Supreme Court intervention to stop the process.

“It definitely seems like they aren’t going to the Supreme Court, but until we say ‘Happy New Year’ on Sunday night I’m not taking anything for granted,” Joshua Block, a lawyer with the American Civil Liberties Union, told Reuters.
I guess occasionally having a self-governing military industrial complex is a good thing.
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Since sanity is a necessary job condition, and they screen for that - unlike in politics, I guess we'll take a win where we can find one.
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This is going to be interesting. I doubt he realizes that once people are serving openly he has has much less of a case (not that he ever really did).
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This is going to be interesting. I doubt he realizes that once people are serving openly he has has much less of a case (not that he ever really did).
But trans soldiers are the reason other soldiers can't get all the healthcare they need! ... one of my relatives essentially posted that.
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But trans soldiers are the reason other soldiers can't get all the healthcare they need! ... one of my relatives essentially posted that.
What a load of horse shit. The US military has quite possibly the best health care system in the country. Even if every trans person in the military were getting sex changes on the government's dime - which, as far as I know, they're not, there's plenty of health care money in the military to go around.
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What a nice way to start the new year.
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What a nice way to start the new year.
When going through the mail I noticed my wife had gotten something from the Council on American-Islamic Relations. We are both atheists but must both be on CAIR's mailing list from travel ban protests and international issues involvement. Anyway, the interesting thing about 2017 is so many groups got on each other's mailing lists now and/or have personal contacts in other populations. Meaning it will be MUCH harder to get something that isolates through in 2018 because not many progressives will be saying something does not affect them or people they know. In early 2017 people may have opposed something on principle but you could not name a specific name/org on moment's notice for a random population.

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But trans soldiers are the reason other soldiers can't get all the healthcare they need! ... one of my relatives essentially posted that.
Using the same logic, soldiers with cancer would keep healthcare away from soldiers with combat-related wounds.

This is not how it works.

Fun fact: do you know what actually makes it harder to treat patients? IV bag shortages.

http://www.newsweek.com/after-hurric...st-hand-765941

Turns out most of the IV bags used in the USA were manufactured in Puerto Rico.

Which is kinda hard without electricity.

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A new study is coming out that looks at US military recruitment:
https://www.postandcourier.com/featu...070250da7.html
If it turns out that this report is consistent with the contents of the article, then it would seem that recruits from the South disproportionately impact the healthcare costs compared to recruits from other regions of the country. Since the administration seems to take a keen interest in using statistical ensembles to restrict recruitment we should expect to see limits on recruiting in the Deep South.

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The study can be found here: http://journals.lww.com/jphmp/Abstra..._to.99523.aspx
It looks like they controlled for a number of factors such as age, race, and weight, and the Southern States still came out on the bottom for physical fitness. With respect to training costs Texas and Oklahoma got switched with Georgia and South Carolina as compared to overall fitness.

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What a load of horse shit. The US military has quite possibly the best health care system in the country. Even if every trans person in the military were getting sex changes on the government's dime - which, as far as I know, they're not, there's plenty of health care money in the military to go around.
The US military is one of the largest socialist organizations in the world. Everybody has their assigned role, and food and healthcare are provided according to what is available locally in equal shares. Decisions are made through a well ordered and clearly defined chain of command. If someone steps out of line they are quickly and efficiently sanctioned with minimal due process. We were even told what clothes to wear on a predetermined schedule. The only downside was dealing with the gigantic rush and peer pressure of huge hordes of people trying to transition to a different sex. To be honest it got tiring after a while, and the free healthcare just was not worth it.

That and crawling in the mud every day with 100's of pounds of medical gear.....
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