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Old 12-27-2017, 05:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kabillionaire Tom Steyer has launched a massive digital campaign to push for Trump's impeachment. His goal of a million signatures was quickly met and the number of signees is now nearing 4 million. A pool of names that has enormous value and weight.

I almost never sign on to these things, but f-it ...I am happily throwing my name and e-mail onto this list. Hopefully, it will become the 600-pound gorilla in the room that no one can ignore.

'We have tapped into something.' Impeachment drive builds digital army to take on Trump

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An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released this week showed that 41 percent of Americans now back impeachment hearings — higher than the percentage that would support Trump in a 2020 election. And in a recent vote, 58 House Democrats backed Rep. Al Green’s call for impeachment — a dramatic shift from the two who supported impeachment at the start of Steyer’s drive in October.

Steyer himself admitted shock at the avalanche of grassroots support for Trump’s impeachment in a recent interview, amid clear disapproval from Democratic party leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, who have suggested that it distracts from the party’s agenda. “We have tapped into something much larger than we thought,’’ said Steyer. He says he’s now aiming for 5 million signatures.
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Wouldn't it be better to wait for the results of Robert Mueller's investigation before deciding to impeach Trump? Or am I missing the point somewhere?
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Impeachment doesn't do much good if they don't find him guilty of something.

All an impeachment is, is the process of a Congressional trial [iirc]
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Impeachment doesn't do much good if they don't find him guilty of something.

All an impeachment is, is the process of a Congressional trial [iirc]
That's what I meant -- unless people have in mind high crimes and misdemeanours unrelated to Russia and the Mueller investigation, I'd have thought it best to wait until Mueller has finished gathering evidence of Trump's criminal wrongdoing for Congress to consider.
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The problem is there is hardly a consensus on the left that getting rid of him now is the right course (although as has been pointed out impeachment is more of a scolding, Clinton got one from the Rs for just lying). Anyway, the problem is one of a long term plan. Say you had a guaranteed way to get rid of dear leader. Would penis be any better? I would argue he would be worse, especially for marginalized communities, because he has the same goals and his ego does not come before his goals (he also knows how the politics game is played). In getting rid of a piece on the political chessboard you have to look at what pieces would fill the power gap and decide if they make the situation worse or better.
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Do me a favor and don't use urls as thread titles. I almost... almost spam hammered this thread because my first thought was "more fucking spam and in PRS at that!". Then I noticed who posted it. But all is well that ends well. At least I don't have to explain to Cris how and why I accidentally banned and deleted all posts of someone who has been here for 5 years.
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Yes, it would be wrong to try to impeach Trump before Mueller is finished with his investigation, and even then it will largely depend on what his findings are. Several reports have noted that Mueller is nearing the end of his investigation, which will end with an interview of Trump himself. So there is a good chance his investigation will be over by the 2018 general election in November. Obviously, it will be over by 2020.

As the article mentioned repeatedly, this list stopped being just about impeachment when it blew past the one million signees mark. This is about progressives having leverage. The "thunderclap" mentioned in the story was a good example. This is now a bank of names that will be of great organizational value to any and all candidates in 2018 and 2020. It will be of more value than the list of e-mails that Sanders fought for the DNC to share.

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Still, Steyer has caught the attention of Trump, who name-checked him on Twitter as being “wacky” and “totally unhinged."

And that’s playing well with Democratic Party activists like Larry Stone, a longtime Democratic fundraiser and a former mayor of Sunnyvale.

“Tom will be a player in the 2018 midterms. I mean, there’s no question about it,” said Stone, who is now Santa Clara County assessor. “Democrats are pretty optimistic right now, with significant justification, and I love Tom Steyer.”

“I don’t believe that it’s in the Democratic Party’s interest to pursue, to seriously pursue impeachment of Donald Trump,’’ he said. “But I think it’s great to talk about it every day.”
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Impeach, don't impeach...
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I got satisfaction from signing the petition a few weeks ago. But what I really want is Mueller to find enough wrong doing to take down Trump, Pence, and the whole oligarchy. I want them exposed for what they are and I want Fox Propaganda destroyed.
I agree wholeheartedly with this part:
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“I’d rather he take his big money and buy up big media outlets like Sinclair Broadcasting,’’ the conservative media giant that is snapping up dozens of TV stations nationwide, South said.
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But what I really want is Mueller to find enough wrong doing to take down Trump, Pence, and the whole oligarchy. I want them exposed for what they are and I want Fox Propaganda destroyed.
What's scary is that here, in Anchorage, we have "One America News" on basic basic cable. Meaning if all you can afford is the network channels, you don't even get fox; you get them.

Additionally, if you have regular cable television (we have it included in our rent) then you have fox, newsmax and the daily mail ( ) to choose from.

On the "left" ....msnbc. That's it.

And we've got a whole generation raised on Fox and worse (Alex Jones, Brietbart). So even if the rats are exposed that generation will simply cheer.

I agree with you, 100% though. I want to see the Sinclair machine dismantled and everyone from Trump, Ryan, McConnell and so on (everyone that's helped with the Russia mess) do the perp walk and get sentenced to Leavenworth.

I'm not holding my breath. Trump's a useful handwave, and he'll be even more useful as a sacrificial lamb once they're ready to move on to Pence.
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What's scary is that here, in Anchorage, we have "One America News" on basic basic cable. Meaning if all you can afford is the network channels, you don't even get fox; you get them.

Additionally, if you have regular cable television (we have it included in our rent) then you have fox, newsmax and the daily mail ( ) to choose from.

On the "left" ....msnbc. That's it.

And we've got a whole generation raised on Fox and worse (Alex Jones, Brietbart). So even if the rats are exposed that generation will simply cheer.

I agree with you, 100% though. I want to see the Sinclair machine dismantled and everyone from Trump, Ryan, McConnell and so on (everyone that's helped with the Russia mess) do the perp walk and get sentenced to Leavenworth.

I'm not holding my breath. Trump's a useful handwave, and he'll be even more useful as a sacrificial lamb once they're ready to move on to Pence.
Yeah, I can't argue against that.
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You know as Dump becomes more and more unhinged and despotic - this petition will make an excellent list of his enemies that need to be "dealt with."
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You know as Dump becomes more and more unhinged and despotic - this petition will make an excellent list of his enemies that need to be "dealt with."
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What's scary is that here, in Anchorage, we have "One America News" on basic basic cable. Meaning if all you can afford is the network channels, you don't even get fox; you get them.

Additionally, if you have regular cable television (we have it included in our rent) then you have fox, newsmax and the daily mail ( ) to choose from.

On the "left" ....msnbc. That's it.
Msnbc is as left as it gets anywhere in the US on cable tv isn't it? It isn't very left at all but that's cable.
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Msnbc is as left as it gets anywhere in the US on cable tv isn't it? It isn't very left at all but that's cable.
Well, if your sole source is cable news you are well and truly going to get right wing BS, it is just a question of is it centrist or wacky conspiracy theories. Fortunately the younguns are not as restricted to only getting news from cable as previous generations. Which means they have access to things like The Young Turks and the Humanist Report (well, more people do than them, but that involves the scary thing called youtube you know).
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Well, if your sole source is cable news you are well and truly going to get right wing BS, it is just a question of is it centrist or wacky conspiracy theories. Fortunately the younguns are not as restricted to only getting news from cable as previous generations. Which means they have access to things like The Young Turks and the Humanist Report (well, more people do than them, but that involves the scary thing called youtube you know).
Of course there's stuff on the web. I was just talking about cable.
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Of course there's stuff on the web. I was just talking about cable.
Which also ignores my point.
My point was that for those who are too poor to afford cable tv (and, most likely, internet) the system (here, in Ak at least) is set up so that all they get for information is ultra-right wing ...rwnj, really... news.

Also, here's the thing about the internet; how do you source? How do you figure out whether something is actually fake news, or is just labelled that way in an attempt to be dismissive.

Cable news is shit; I think (I hope!) we can agree on that. But at least there's some sort of vetting (because litigation).

That's pretty well out the window with internet news.

That's a good thing, because it means that voices which are genuinely leftist can be heard in a way they couldn't have been in past decades. But it's bad because those same voices can be easily discredited (eg counterpunch).
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Also, here's the thing about the internet; how do you source? How do you figure out whether something is actually fake news, or is just labelled that way in an attempt to be dismissive.
The same way you check on the accuracy of any data source? Use multiple information streams and spot check their citations. Eventually you will learn which ones have a track record of being more credible than others.

It also depends on the subject. If I want to know a layperson's ethnography of a certain tribe I am more likely to look at National Geographic first than, oh, the New York Times.
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Well, if your sole source is cable news you are well and truly going to get right wing BS, it is just a question of is it centrist or wacky conspiracy theories. Fortunately the younguns are not as restricted to only getting news from cable as previous generations. Which means they have access to things like The Young Turks and the Humanist Report (well, more people do than them, but that involves the scary thing called youtube you know).
You mean all the newspapers and magazines I read for decades were just figments of my imagination? If that's the case then neither Kennedy nor Elvis are dead.

I wonder how gossip and rumors spread so quickly without benefit of cable or internet.

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Of course print media is out there (or the digital version of the articles at least). Since we were talking cable news I was pointing out there is also video news programs that do not rely on whether cable offers the channel or not.
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