jacqueline trudeau

Why the hell wouldn't I trust them? All MM does is post verbatim transcripts and audio/video of MSM misinformational broadcasts. I do not see ANY thirdhand opinions proffered in their process. What bias is there to agree or disagree there? And since there is no opinion, the suggestion is that they must be altering what they present. That is pure bullshit.

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Surreal

And here we come to my core point... how do you know?

Now they may very well do this, but show me where I can cross-check the information they presented about the Fox story.

If I can't cross-check it, I may consider it, but I'm not going to believe it unquestioningly.

The information on that website isn't evidence, it's an assertion. If you were to take it to court, you would have to present original videoclips that could be verified as untampered with.

jacqueline trudeau

*looks for Joshua's suicide smilie

Io Zeno

Media Matters isn't some fly by night operation, some fringe website. As Cindy herself pointed out, it has rather powerful people behind it.

Which is why the mainstream media is well aware of it and had they doctored or tampered with videos or transcripts they would be all over them like white on rice.

Just want to add something. It's "right/left wing shill". Not "shrill".

Shill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just sayin'.

Surreal

I should know better than to try and argue a philosophical point in a thread where passions are high.

I don't really give a shit-house rat's ass about Fox. And, I have MM on my regular cruise-by list.

Nevertheless, I don't trust what I can't verify. And frankly, I think a healthy skepticism about anything one reads/watches in the media is a good thing.

Is that so difficult to get?

jacqueline trudeau

There's always the (very likely) possiblity of a shrill left/rightwing shill :fingernails on chalkboard smilie:

jacqueline trudeau

I get that it can be taken to silly extremes.

Io Zeno

First, my passions aren't anywhere near high, I think you know my posting well enough to tell, Surreal.

Second, there is a point at which someone or something earns your trust or you don't believe anything you read or hear.

Which brings us back to the topic at hand, in a circular fashion.

A so-called news station, that does not correct stories when the sources tell them what they don't want to hear, that does the kind of lame photoshops children do on people it does not like, and so forth, is not the kind of "news" you can trust, period. No organization that wants to be taken seriously would allow such nonsense under any heading, pundit or whatever and it is NOT the norm for cable news, at all.

Vengence Opus

for those of you who are gamers, and do not agree with the policies of Fox News...

do not buy games from Direct 2 Drive. they are owned by the same company. if you buy a game from them, you are, in a way, responsible for paying Bill O'Riley's salary, as well as guest spots by Ann Coulter.

please purchase your online games from Steam.

this is a public service announcement from Gamers For Change. "Changing the way you play, one tangent at a time."

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jacqueline trudeau

I appreciate your sentiment Veng, but avoiding any business with a News Corp entity is going to be quite difficult (speaking as a Wall Street Journal subscriber and occasional The Simpsons viewer )

Richie Waves

yea, it sucks, some decent tv alright... although the simpsons started going shite in 98/99...

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Vengence Opus

i am working on canceling all of my News Corp related accounts. putting my money where my mouth is, as it were. this is, mostly for my own piece of mind (as i know one person boycotting them is kinda like shooting a BB gun at a tank.)



(in addition, i'm missing a lot of my favorite shows. it sucks, but i feel better when i think about Bart Simpson hugging Ann Coulter. yick!)

Victoria Kemsley

I'm just on my quick lunch time drive by, and don't have time to read the last few pages, so if the arguments progressed to something else...ehhh, sorry

But the photo's in question look just like a bad editing job to me.

I don't know what causes it, but I was watching a video last night, which was a collection of photo's, and they all were stretched vertically. The photo's in the fox video appear the same.

Seems ethier Fox or MM just need to hire someone with a tad more skill.

Edit: If it helps, I could post the video later, just no time at the moment

Richie Waves

total fucking rubbish, it is clearly a photoshop liquify job and to say it isnt is just stupid.. if not unexpected.

bad editing doesnt yellow teeth either.. try again.

Cindy Claveau

That explains why my download of Mass Effect won't install.

But on the other hand, Steam fucking sucks. I mean, COMPLETELY sucks. I refuse to use them - I'd rather buy the box from Best Buy.

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your going to deny those are PS liquify jobs are you?

that is fucked right up...

Cristiano

I am banning you for pointing this out. I discovered that Direct2Drive and Hulu, two of my favorite sites on the web, are owned by News Corp. Even so, I will continue to support those sites, and to not support FoxNews. I like Fox and FX, and watch both regularly - just not their joke of a "news" channel.

PS - that reminds me - Direct2Drive does something that I absolutely love, which is that it lets you redownload stuff you have purchased from them - everything I have ever bought is still in my account available for download. I freaking hate digital download sites that won't let you redownload stuff you have purchased (yes, I'm looking at you, piece of shit iTunes) - it is also something I love about Amazon Unbox and the XBOX 360 - when I switched from an XBOX 360 to an XBOX 360 Elite, I was able to redownload all of digital purchases easily.

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Joshua Nightshade

Those photos were clearly altered. It wasn't stretched. You can see where the hairline was smudged.

Cindy Claveau

Cristiano

Did anyone mention this?

OUTFOXED: Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism

Joshua Nightshade

You're really not in any position to attack him. You've been flapping around like a batshit bat for weeks.

Richie Waves

Ya cause MY credabilitiy is going to change that this picture was liquified, actually.. I have a few pictures i done of my mates with liquify in my gmail.. I'll go get one and we can see

Cindy Claveau

Oh, I thought I was the only one engaging in ad hominem in this thread? Catch up, boyo. And get some fucking reading glasses while you're at it.

Surreal

*shrug*

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You do things your way, I'll do things mine.

Joshua Nightshade

When did I say that? At least when I call someone a name I own it, I don't try to pass off me being a fucktarded bitch like some misrepresentation or misunderstanding of my opinion.