Lianne Marten

That this is even being argued about is Utterly Absurd.


Edit: I am quite fine with this as totp.

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Envoy Costagravas

Thanks, Cris. As they say: /signed.

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Dancien Graves

I'm thinking about signing it. As it is I'm beginning to this this freedom of the press bullshit has gone too far and they should be forced to report the news, as it is, without their idiotic spin or hammering it into the ground. (That includes all the cable news networks)

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jacqueline trudeau

When your competition's viewership is increasing 4-fold in comparison to yours (out of a not-infinite pool), the trend is absolutely that way. But if you prefer the more technically accurate "losing ground" then you are welcome to that by all means

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Richie Waves

Fox is owned by an Aussie...

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Oooh, Betty! the cat did a shit in the hat

Richie Waves

I have a feeling their viewer share be about um.. 26%.


"the peanut gallery"

Richie Waves

more lies:

Media Matters - Fox News contributor Mike Huckabee falsely claimed "not one drop of oil was spilled" during Hurricane Katrina

jacqueline trudeau

Interestingly, whither Fox is in the news today

Fox News Finds Its Rivals Closing In

Roxie Marten

Considering some of the idiotic blather that Moveon.org spews. I think
they have little to complain about.

Rox

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Something is not the same
I'm through with playing by the rules
Of someone else's game
Too late for second-guessing
Too late to go back to sleep
It's time to trust my instincts
Close my eyes and leap

It's time to try
Defying gravity
I think I'll try
Defying gravity
And you can't pull me down...

Ewan Took

He's American now. America has wisely not allowed foreign ownership of it's media.

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jacqueline trudeau

I'll definitely be watching Fox News on election night. It'll be delicious to see as it all crumbles around them . Especially if Rove (mr. "Permanent Republican Majority") is on the desk.

Ewan Took

BTW Do people think this is a good thing? I applaud the US about this. Imagine if a German had control of the media of Britain in the 1930s. (Did I Godwin this thread?)

Cristiano

Please, by all means, back that up - what "idiotic blather" of theirs rises to the level of a news joking about killing a presidential candidate or labelling a gesture "a terrorist fist jab", for example?

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Cristiano

I think it is a good thing, though I do wish there were additional limits on how much a company can own. With all of these megacorporations owing huge swaths of the media, it makes unbiased coverage harder and harder to find, and the line between news and press releases blur even further.

Vengence Opus

i no longer watch the (um, mainstream?) news, no matter what the channel. i get my weather reports online, which tend to be far more accurate. i get a lot of my news here on this board.

the only other channel i rely on for current events is this:

news // current

i don't know how many of you have access to this channel, but all of it is completely user created. (even most of the commercials.) you can post videos comments on the stories, some of which end up being broadcast.

it's a really cool deal. puts the news back into the hands of the people. (i like it, anyway. ) covers a whole range of thoughts on any number of topics.

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Cindy Claveau

Keep feeding the meme, Cris. In all those videos I don't see ONE SINGLE actual newscast in that entire litany of stuff you linked. I see O'Reilly (opinion). I see Hannity (idiot opinion). I see E.D. Hill's "Fox and Friends" circus, which is not ostensibly a news broadcast but editorial commentary on the news. The "killing Obama" comment was made by a guest, NOT by Shepherd the Fox interviewer. I see opinion panels and guest opinion-givers. Where's the news casts? I don't see one!

Here's where the myth starts: That all of those excerpted little snippets, pounced on by a couple of liberal attack groups, represent all that is Fox and warrant this sort of ridiculous shit storm.

Fox has a right to their opinion just like MoveOn and Fox Attacks. The people confusing their opinion with NEWS are the radicals, not Fox.

I think what we have here is the same level of rhetoric from the Left that we saw from the Right during the last two elections with all the Michael Moore baloney - anything that doesn't pander to the golden boy of choice is "outrageous and objectionable". It doesn't serve any purpose other than to get a bunch of people pissed off for nothing. But that's what MoveOn is best at doing.

Wake me up when MoveOn starts to represent a single thing that's important to the middleclass American mainstream. Maybe then they'll matter.

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Richie Waves

yea, a news outlet that spends 20 hours a week pushing a war with Iran aren't radical... thats normal.

Joshua Nightshade

I'm glad you came back to defend your indefensible point, I feared this thread would die a quiet death.

hope Antonelli

Not all of us are willing to be spoon fed liberal trash from every angle of the media these dayss. You -can't- criticize Obama without immediately being branded racists, which I most certainly am not. I dont believe in raising my taxes so people who refuse to work can have the sane standard of living as those of us who do. Its called socialism, and lkast time I looked at the history books it was rather frowned on by the American public. Fox has a lot of commentary type shows, but they also have some good debates, and trust me..none of their stuff is any more inflammatory than what you hear on the big 3 (nBC< CBS< ABC) any more. People who live in glass houses should be careful throwing stones

FlipperPA Peregrine

Fox News should totally hire Jimmy the Greek, Kristian.

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Joshua Nightshade

Nobody's calling anyone racist just because they criticized Obama.

When you criticize Obama IN A RACIST WAY then yeah, you kindof are.

Richie Waves

Now would be a great time to tell us all about the welfare queens, some of us never heard that one.

Cindy Claveau

Let me guess. You don't comprehend well.

The clips did NOT portray Fox newscasts. They were EDITORIAL OPINION, and some weren't even Fox analysts. They were guests.

Get back to me when you also start criticizing the bullshit that passes for "opinion" from Chris Matthews, Al Franken, Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Ken Olberman and Michael Moore. I don't see much of that around here, so I think I know where you can stick your opinion.

jacqueline trudeau

Either racist of cynically apealling to a voter's racist subconscious (and let's face it, we all have one in varying degrees) for political gain. Frank Rich had good take on that in this week's column.

And where's Karl working these days? Oh! Fox News... funny how that name keeps coming back.

jacqueline trudeau

Brit Hume? He's the top NEWS guy at Fox, no? When is he going to issue a retraction and (hopefully apology) for broadcasting this lie? Fox is just sad... they won't stop until they can convince 100% of it's viewers that Obama is ... wait for it ... <scary music> a... MUSLIM!