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Victoria Kemsley · 07-03-2008, 04:53 PM

federally contracted private guards

That's a long way from being deputised as law enforcemnt officals

But I'll admit I did not know about the federal contract

Io Zeno · 07-03-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jacqueline trudeau

He said / he said.

I would like to see some proof as well.

A Congressional investigation would be a good place to start. DHS officials would never admit to this contracting unless under oath.

Please go back and read the underlined parts.

This is too vague despite inquiry but they have as much as admitted they are working as hired guns for FEMA and the governement and their own financial records prove it.

jacqueline trudeau · 07-03-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Please go back and read the underlined parts.

This is too vague despite inquiry but they have as much as admitted they are working as hired guns for FEMA and the governement and their own financial records prove it.

Yes I did

I removed my ill thought out posting (you know, I do that sometimes

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Victoria Kemsley · 07-03-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Richie Waves

Whats that got to do with the price of watermelons?

Has nothing to do with the price of watermellons Ritche.

You have a very nice track record however of dismissing any arguments that contradict yours as rubbish, however many of the truths you post have no basis in fact, and cannot be supported with any degree of factual documentation

jacqueline trudeau · 07-03-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Victoria Kemsley

federally contracted private guards

That's a long way from being deputised as law enforcemnt officals

What difference does it make if you happen to find yourself at the business end of their firearm?

Envoy Costagravas · 07-03-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Victoria Kemsley

federally contracted private guards

That's a long way from being deputized as law enforcement officals

Ahem.

Not a long way at all. Habitat for Humanity going down there to build/rebuild houses is a long way from "being deputized as law enforcement". The role Blackwater played was very, very close to being surrogate police, and in some ways (the lack of accountability), maybe a little scarier.

Aw, hell, what does this have to do with our original topic? I'm a Thread Drift Contributor!

Victoria Kemsley · 07-03-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Please go back and read the underlined parts.

This is too vague despite inquiry but they have as much as admitted they are working as hired guns for FEMA and the governement and their own financial records prove it.

We hashed this out forever back in SC days

It's all in the interpretation...

Ritchies habit of lashing with insults caught me wrong today, the blackwater omg they are shooting people in the steets post was just one of the first things that came to mind.

Shouldn't have tried to sink to that level...hugs

Io Zeno · 07-03-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Victoria Kemsley

We hashed this out forever back in SC days

It's all in the interpretation...

Ritchies habit of lashing with insults caught me wrong today, the blackwater omg they are shooting people in the steets post was just one of the first things that came to mind.

Shouldn't have tried to sink to that level...hugs

np, hon, everyone is touchy today about something, heh.

Persephone Milk · 07-03-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Io Zeno

Persephone, I will link later to a documentary that rather convincingly tells of how these are in fact, management decisions, it is *policy*, this bias.

I am inclined to probably agree with you IO, at least for the group that edits the non-news commentary or more humorous shows like Fox and Friends. I went back and reread the Media Matters piece, and watched the video. At the time of my post I didn't realize this entire segment culminated in a very obvious and humorous (not really, but they must have thought it was teh funny) photo manipulation. The fact they were unabashedly editing these photos to make them look like goofs as a part of their little parody piece does make the offense less egregious to me. I stand behind my statement that this type of editing should not be done, and that Fox should be held accountable. But I don't think you could ever find this kind of thing in their more serious news programs. Assuming of course you can actually find their more serious news programs among all of the poop.

Atia · 07-03-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

To settle this once and for all, I did a little research and found out why Fox is so popular:

YouTube - Fox News Babes

Eat THAT, Wolf Blitzer!

So their new (and more suited name) is Fox Views.

Richie Waves · 07-07-2008, 12:19 AM

Like most working journalists, whenever I type seven letters — Fox News — a series of alarms begins to whoop in my head: Danger. Warning. Much mayhem ahead.

Once the public relations apparatus at Fox News is engaged, there will be the calls to my editors, keening (and sometimes threatening) e-mail messages, and my requests for interviews will quickly turn into depositions about my intent or who else I am talking to.

And if all that stuff doesn’t slow me down and I actually end up writing something, there might be a large hangover: Phone calls full of rebuke for a dependent clause in the third to the last paragraph, a ritual spanking in the blogs with anonymous quotes that sound very familiar, and — if I really hit the jackpot — the specter of my ungainly headshot appearing on one of Fox News’s shows along with some stern copy about what an idiot I am.

Part of me — the Irish, tribal part — admires Fox News’s ferocious defense of its guys. I work at a place where editors can make easy sport of teasing apart your flawed copy until it collapses in a steaming pile, but Lord help those outsiders who make an unwarranted or unfounded attack on me or my work. Our tactics may be different, but we, too, are strong for our posse.

Media reporting about other media’s approach to producing media is pretty confusing business to begin with. Feelings, which are always raw for people who make their mistakes in public, will be bruised. But that does not fully explain the scorched earth between Fox News and those who cover it.

contd:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/bu...in&oref=slogin

jacqueline trudeau · 07-08-2008, 11:16 AM

Here's McCain not running around saying "Look at me I'm a hero" like some candidates have in the past.

New McCain Ad: Summer of Love - The Caucus - Politics - New York Times Blog

Quote:

While some Americans at home protested and partied, during a time of “uncertainty, hope and change,” (sound familiar?), the announcer in the ad notes, “half a world away,” John McCain was showing “another kind of love — of country.”

As scenes of a fighter jet and Mr. McCain’s captivity as a prisoner of war flash on the screen, the script continues: “John McCain: Shot down. Bayoneted. Tortured. Offered early release, he said, ‘No.’ He’d sworn an oath.”

Richie Waves · 07-08-2008, 11:20 AM

While People where doing this:

Commander AWOL and McInsane where doing this:

07-07-2008, 12:19 AM	#286 (permalink)
Richie Waves Deus ibi est I haz Pacman! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 5,323 SL Join Date: 27/06/2005 My Mood:	Like most working journalists, whenever I type seven letters — Fox News — a series of alarms begins to whoop in my head: Danger. Warning. Much mayhem ahead. Once the public relations apparatus at Fox News is engaged, there will be the calls to my editors, keening (and sometimes threatening) e-mail messages, and my requests for interviews will quickly turn into depositions about my intent or who else I am talking to. And if all that stuff doesn’t slow me down and I actually end up writing something, there might be a large hangover: Phone calls full of rebuke for a dependent clause in the third to the last paragraph, a ritual spanking in the blogs with anonymous quotes that sound very familiar, and — if I really hit the jackpot — the specter of my ungainly headshot appearing on one of Fox News’s shows along with some stern copy about what an idiot I am. Part of me — the Irish, tribal part — admires Fox News’s ferocious defense of its guys. I work at a place where editors can make easy sport of teasing apart your flawed copy until it collapses in a steaming pile, but Lord help those outsiders who make an unwarranted or unfounded attack on me or my work. Our tactics may be different, but we, too, are strong for our posse. Media reporting about other media’s approach to producing media is pretty confusing business to begin with. Feelings, which are always raw for people who make their mistakes in public, will be bruised. But that does not fully explain the scorched earth between Fox News and those who cover it. contd: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/bu...in&oref=slogin __________________ My lastfm It's not trouble until its wreaked something

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Richie Waves Deus ibi est I haz Pacman! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 5,323 SL Join Date: 27/06/2005 My Mood:	While People where doing this: Commander AWOL and McInsane where doing this: