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Old 12-06-2017, 11:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Pfizer Inc. will begin selling the white pill at half the $65-a-pill retail price on Monday, when its patent-protected monopoly ends. Generic maker Teva Pharmaceuticals can start selling its version then, but isn't disclosing the price.
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"It's great" that the prices are getting cut, said the West Chester, Illinois, electrical inspector, "because it's something men need."
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And I bet that little fucker will be covered by most insurance plans, unlike women's contraception. If conservatives hate absorption so much, why do they keep causing so many of them?
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And I bet that little fucker will be covered by most insurance plans, unlike women's contraception. If conservatives hate absorption so much, why do they keep causing so many of them?
Frustratingly I am sure it would come as news to most lawmakers that contraception is often used for things like painful periods.
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Frustratingly I am sure it would come as news to most lawmakers that contraception is often used for things like painful periods.
Yeah, it's stupid that of it was called anything other than "Birth Control", and that was just listed as a side effect, they wouldn't care that insurance companies cover it, just like most other drugs.

But "OMG it's Birth Control, it's against babies and we have to SAVE ALL THE BABIES! People just get it so they can have promiscuous sex with every one!"

It's just total bull shit.
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I do know most Medicare Part D plans do not cover Viagra. Not sure what they'll do about a generic.
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Yeah, it's stupid that of it was called anything other than "Birth Control", and that was just listed as a side effect, they wouldn't care that insurance companies cover it, just like most other drugs.

But "OMG it's Birth Control, it's against babies and we have to SAVE ALL THE BABIES! People just get it so they can have promiscuous sex with every one!"

It's just total bull shit.
Many doctors who know you have restrictive insurance will smile and say it is ‘good to regulate your cycle’ and officially prescribe it for that.
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Many doctors who know you have restrictive insurance will smile and say it is ‘good to regulate your cycle’ and officially prescribe it for that.
That sounds like how estrogen gets prescribed to transwomen without tripping flags on insurance: that it is addressing a problem with the thyroid.

It is an open secret that they do that but frustrating. In order to get around some bureaucrat incorrect medical information gets recorded. While not TOO bad in these two cases you should never have wrong info in there for such a pointless reason.
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That sounds like how estrogen gets prescribed to transwomen without tripping flags on insurance: that it is addressing a problem with the thyroid.

It is an open secret that they do that but frustrating. In order to get around some bureaucrat incorrect medical information gets recorded. While not TOO bad in these two cases you should never have wrong info in there for such a pointless reason.
Isn't estrogen inexpensive enough that you can get it for about the cost of co-pay? Is not even trying to involve an insurance company an option?
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Isn't estrogen inexpensive enough that you can get it for about the cost of co-pay? Is not even trying to involve an insurance company an option?
It depends on the variety. Right now I am taking a generic oral form of estrogen and it is so cheap that insurance probably is not saving me much. When I started though it was with brand name intramuscular injections .... and that is expensive for something that is a maintenance med.
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You might also look into the likes of Evorel/Estradot or similar patches - also cheap, with the nice benefit of not imposing any hepatic load.
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People just get it so they can have promiscuous sex with every one!"

It's just total bull shit.
We all know only men should be having promiscuous sex with everyone, and regardless if the target wants to or not. /sarcasm
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Your dick can get hard at 80. Of course your daughter can't get reasonable access to needed contraceptive services, and you freak out when you find out kids have sex ed, and you won't actually donate anything to the millions of underprivileged kids in this country, let alone another country, and no, no condoms in school bathrooms because that shits fucked up, but its perfectly acceptable for an 80 year old to have a hard dick....

So that we can get fucked.
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You might also look into the likes of Evorel/Estradot or similar patches - also cheap, with the nice benefit of not imposing any hepatic load.
Thanks for the info, I probably will stick with what I am on though. To give you an idea, if most people miss a dose of estrogen it is hardly life-threatening but with me it is enough an alteration to my body chemistry that I risk having a seizure over it.
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Your dick can get hard at 80. Of course your daughter can't get reasonable access to needed contraceptive services, and you freak out when you find out kids have sex ed, and you won't actually donate anything to the millions of underprivileged kids in this country, let alone another country, and no, no condoms in school bathrooms because that shits fucked up, but its perfectly acceptable for an 80 year old to have a hard dick....

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We all know only men should be having promiscuous sex with everyone, and regardless if the target wants to or not. /sarcasm
* Everyone under the age of 18

Apparently...if the GOP is to be believed.
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Question: One of the viagra-type pills has a set of ads featuring women in dark blue "sexy" clothing, barefoot (ready! oh so ready!), expressing delight that their men use the drug.

Here's my question: does anyone actually know a woman who is happy that her guy uses viagra? I know a few who don't like it but would never tell their husbands, and I know that if I were with a man who uses it I would harbor some secret scorn and distrust of him, but ARE there delighted women somewhere?

ETA: ACK! I should have said something more like, "happy that her guy gets viagra for purely recreational purposes". I was thinking only about the many otherwise healthy men who use it for ... what would one call it, convenience? So sorry to have said such a stupid thing.



[Personally, I suspect that one could make a pretty penny selling passable fake viagra placebos to wives/girlfriends who would slip it into their guys' pill bottles.]

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Question: One of the viagra-type pills has a set of ads featuring women in dark blue "sexy" clothing, barefoot (ready! oh so ready!), expressing delight that their men use the drug.

Here's my question: does anyone actually know a woman who is happy that her guy uses viagra? I know a few who don't like it but would never tell their husbands, and I know that if I were with a man who uses it I would harbor some secret scorn and distrust of him, but ARE there delighted women somewhere?

I don't need to hear about your speculation that there must be, I want to know if you personally know any such female.


[Personally, I suspect that one could make a pretty penny selling passable fake viagra placebos to wives/girlfriends who would slip it into their guys' pill bottles.]
Honestly? Why would I have scorn or distrust if my spouse needed medical help? I'm not sure I get why you do either.

Maybe its because I'm already on medications to make up for bodily deficits and so is he, so if he did have a problem in that area, I wouldn't be upset with him taking them.
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and I know that if I were with a man who uses it I would harbor some secret scorn and distrust of him, but ARE there delighted women somewhere?
Some poor schmuck has a legitimate medical issue and to top it off it's one that comes with no small bit of rah rah manhood psychological scarring too, better scorn him ensuring that he can stack a few extra mental health issues on top so his therapist doesn't get bored.

You sure showed him!
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I know that if I were with a man who uses it I would harbor some secret scorn and distrust of him, but ARE there delighted women somewhere?
A very common condition like diabetes ruins the sex life of millions all over the world, because the Little John doesn't not rise properly any more.
After years of diabetes one normally looses feeling in the toes due to it, and a chunk of men with that condition will experience that Johnie is the next part affected.
The blue pill can help in the last case.
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Thanks for the info, I probably will stick with what I am on though. To give you an idea, if most people miss a dose of estrogen it is hardly life-threatening but with me it is enough an alteration to my body chemistry that I risk having a seizure over it.
Patches would be an improvement, ne? They're continuous release, and generously overloaded - Evorel 100 is specified for 100µg/day (not to be confused with pill dosages, which are much higher, given their indirect pathway), and intended to be replaced twice a week, but nominally hold 6.4mg in total.
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A very common condition like diabetes ruins the sex life of millions all over the world, because the Little John doesn't not rise properly any more.
After years of diabetes one normally looses feeling in the toes due to it, and a chunk of men with that condition will experience that Johnie is the next part affected.
The blue pill can help in the last case.
That's how my dad learned he was diabetic, before he passed away [liver cancer, might have been connected, honestly]

And my spouse and I are both diabetics.
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That's how my dad learned he was diabetic, before he passed away [liver cancer, might have been connected, honestly]

And my spouse and I are both diabetics.
I'm diabetic too. It runs in the family.
And my weight does not help much either.
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Patches would be an improvement, ne? They're continuous release, and generously overloaded - Evorel 100 is specified for 100µg/day (not to be confused with pill dosages, which are much higher, given their indirect pathway), and intended to be replaced twice a week, but nominally hold 6.4mg in total.
Most likely it would be better, yes. However switching from one thing to another would be a slightly different chemistry for a short time.

To give you an example. Any neurologist worth their salt does not prescribe generic anti-epilepsy medications for patients with epilepsy. It is not some anti-generic thing though, if the patient is already on a generic when they come to them they will keep them on the same one. Why? The inactive ingredients. For most medical issues they are not a factor, by all means get whatever is cheapest, but when you start affecting a brain's chemistry you often wind up dealing with some pretty tight tolerances between control and side-effects.
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I'm diabetic too. It runs in the family.
And my weight does not help much either.
Same here - hopefully the gym thing helps, and its of course a constant struggle to eat right, especially this time of year.
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