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Old 11-17-2017, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Great Big No Good Sexual Harassment thread

These stories are popping daily, now, and if it's not Donald Trump being accused maybe we should throw the lot of 'em into one deplorable basket. We've all heard of Dustin Hoffman, Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, et al., but how many of us were worried about Brett Ratner?

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Actress Gal Gadot has confirmed that Hollywood producer Brett Ratner will not be involved in the “Wonder Woman” sequel, calling the decision “the right thing to do” after multiple women have come forward with sexual harassment allegations against him.

“Everyone knows the way that I feel because I’m not hiding anything,” she said Wednesday on NBC’s “Today” show after being asked about an article claiming she had demanded his ouster.

“But the truth is, there’s so many people involved in making this movie, it’s not just me, and they all echoed the same sentiments. You know what I mean?” she said. “Everyone knew what was the right thing to do, but there was nothing for me to actually come and say, ’cause it was already done before this article came out, you know?”
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good thread idea Cindy, I thought about it a few days ago, better to condense. and what about Al Franken? Somebody should make a list so far.
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And those are only in the U.S. Add the ones in the UK, France, etc., and even here (in Quebec many very powerful men in the entertainment milieu have come crashing down). It's non-stop. Every day there's something else. Even though I am glad it's happening, it's been a long time coming, it feels too much at times for me. Not so much the revelations, but some of the reactions - the shock and surprise, etc. - are driving me batty. Someone on this board mentioned (or posted a link? I'm sorry I forget who) that they were expecting an eventual backlash and last night, on a show here, a guest was saying the same thing. I think I agree. Anyhoo... no links to add, just feel so tired of it all.
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Oh no - I've got lots of Rethuglican friends on FB defending Roy Moore. It's disgusting.
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Another claim against Tambor.

Transparent Writers Consider a Show Without Jeffrey Tambor, As Further Sexual Harassment Allegations Emerge

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Now further allegations have emerged, this time from co-star Trace Lysette, who plays yoga instructor and transgender woman Shea on the show. In a statement to the Hollywood Reporter, Lysette described an incident in which Tambor made sexually charged remarks and pressed himself against her between takes. “He came in close, put his bare feet on top of mine so I could not move, leaned his body against me, and began quick, discreet thrust back and forth against my body. I felt his penis on my hip through his thin pajamas,” she wrote.]
It is getting to the point I need a shower just after glancing at these articles. I don't know who or what to believe anymore.
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E! Entertainment Investigating Ryan Seacrest For Alleged ‘Inappropriate’ Behavior

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Ryan Seacrest has a squeaky clean reputation as one of Hollywood’s most recognized TV hosts, but he hasn’t escaped the outpouring of sexual abuse accusations in the industry.

A wardrobe stylist says that the 42-year-old TV personality acted inappropriately toward her while he was working for E! News, The Hollywood Reporter first reported Friday.

An unnamed source told the Reporter that the victim “made a substantial financial ask in exchange for her silence, which, ... Seacrest declined via his lawyers.”

A spokesperson for E! Entertainment confirmed to HuffPost that the cable channel is investigating Seacrest but did not answer any questions on what type of misbehavior allegedly took place.

Seacrest, who co-hosts “Live With Kelly and Ryan,” disputed the accusations and called them “reckless,” and he said he is cooperating with the corporate investigation, according to an official statement obtained by HuffPost.

He acknowledged that the accuser was a wardrobe stylist who worked for him at E! News “nearly a decade ago,” and he apologized if he “made her feel anything but respected.”
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And, OH LOOK, Morrissey has said something stupid again. Sanctimonious prick that he's always been. Sorry, Smiths fans, but he really is a class A taint nugget, who defends Spacey and Weinstein.

https://www.stereogum.com/1972241/mo...d-happen/news/
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Some pastors stand behind Roy Moore, cite "war on men" | AL.com

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"This attack on Judge Moore is an attempt by the Democrats to sway voters in Alabama," said Pastor David Floyd of Marvyn Parkway Baptist Church, Opelika. "I don't believe those women. In this country you are innocent until proven guilty."

Floyd is one of around 50 pastors that signed a letter of public support for Moore in August before allegations of sexual misconduct and the dating of teens became public. Moore has denied the allegations, calling them an "attack on my character and reputation" and a "desperate attempt to stop my political campaign for the United States Senate."

Pastor Franklin Raddish of the Capitol Hill Independent Baptist Ministries, a nationwide church, told AL.com from his South Carolina home that the spate of accusations against men in politics, Hollywood and elsewhere was a "war on men."

"More women are sexual predators than men," said Raddish. "Women are chasing young boys up and down the road, but we don't hear about that because it's not PC."
Or maybe because it's just not happening very often? Go back to your cave, troll.
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These stories are popping daily, now, and if it's not Donald Trump being accused maybe we should throw the lot of 'em into one deplorable basket. We've all heard of Dustin Hoffman, Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, et al., but how many of us were worried about Brett Ratner?

Here's what a woman can do when she has some power:

Gal Gadot Confirms Brett Ratner Is Out Of ‘Wonder Woman’ Sequel
Why not add the links to the other threads to this post? There's what, 3 or 4 current ones? I'm suggesting just those that are current, not the older ones like the Cosby thread. For relevancy and posterity. And preservation of the events as they occurred on SLU.
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And, OH LOOK, Morrissey has said something stupid again. Sanctimonious prick that he's always been. Sorry, Smiths fans, but he really is a class A taint nugget, who defends Spacey and Weinstein.

https://www.stereogum.com/1972241/mo...d-happen/news/
Oh, wow - Morrissey being a bloody wanker.... again.

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Russell Simmons and Brett Ratner face new allegations of sexual misconduct - LA Times

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Keri Claussen Khalighi was a 17-year-old fashion model from a farm town in Nebraska when she met Brett Ratner and Russell Simmons at a casting call. Ratner was an up-and-coming music video director and a protege of Simmons, the Def Jam Recordings mogul. They took Khalighi to dinner one night in 1991 at Mr. Chow in New York, and then back to Simmons’ apartment to show her a music video they’d been working on.

Quickly, Simmons began making aggressive sexual advances, yanking off her clothes, Khalighi said. “I looked over at Brett and said ‘help me’ and I'll never forget the look on his face,” she recalled. “In that moment, the realization fell on me that they were in it together.”

Khalighi said that Simmons, who was then about twice her age, tried to force her to have intercourse. “I fought it wildly,” she said. He eventually relented and coerced her to perform oral sex, she alleged. “I guess I just acquiesced.”
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Or maybe because it's just not happening very often? Go back to your cave, troll.
The word pastor means shepherd... think about that. They're supposed to protect the weak, or those in need, etc. It really makes you sick. I can't even imagine living in an area where the majority of people voted for dung like this.
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And, OH LOOK, Morrissey has said something stupid again. Sanctimonious prick that he's always been. Sorry, Smiths fans, but he really is a class A taint nugget, who defends Spacey and Weinstein.

https://www.stereogum.com/1972241/mo...d-happen/news/
Ah, yes... he says women who were with Weinstein were just playing along and later were embarrassed...
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People know exactly what happens. And they play along. Afterward, they feel embarrassed, or they do not like it. And then they turn it around and say: I was attacked, I was surprised, I was dragged into the room. But if everything had gone well and had it given them a great career, they would not talk about it. I hate rape. I hate attacks. I hate sexual situations that are forced on someone. But in many cases, one looks at the circumstances and thinks that the person referred to as a victim is merely disappointed. Throughout the history of music and rock ‘n’ roll there have been musicians who have slept with their groupies. If you go through history, almost everyone is guilty of sleeping with minors.

The thing is, I am absolutely certain many people think exactly like him.

Harvey Weinstein had secret hitlist of names to quash sex scandal - The Guardian
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The Observer has gained access to a secret hitlist of almost 100 prominent individuals targeted by Harvey Weinstein in an extraordinary attempt to discover what they knew about sexual misconduct claims against him and whether they were intending to go public.

The previously undisclosed list contains a total of 91 actors, publicists, producers, financiers and others working in the film industry, all of whom Weinstein allegedly identified as part of a strategy to prevent accusers from going public with sexual misconduct claims against him.

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The only time women are taken seriously is when hoards of them come out. Yet, as we see here with Shitmorrissey, for some, it's still not enough.
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Not that it's up to me, but honestly, I would really prefer if we did keep it to one thread. I think I'm not digesting very well all the news this past month. I know it's frivolous. Obviously, it's up to me to control myself and not click. I go from wanting to cry, wanting to be violent, to feeling nauseated. Ridiculous, I know.
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Not that it's up to me, but honestly, I would really prefer if we did keep it to one thread. I think I'm not digesting very well all the news this past month. I know it's frivolous. Obviously, it's up to me to control myself and not click. I go from wanting to cry, wanting to be violent, to feeling nauseated. Ridiculous, I know.
It's not ridiculous. I think I can safely claim that most, if not all, of us have been experiencing the same thing. Some of us only since 11/8, some of us for years.

For myself, I'm getting close to the point where I completely ignore all news again out of necessity.
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Oh geez.

I feel bad for leaving too many food wrappers in the trash, and wet towels on the bed when I leave the room. I had no idea this crap was happening.
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I feel bad for leaving too many food wrappers in the trash, and wet towels on the bed when I leave the room. I had no idea this crap was happening.
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Good illustration to my point - its a rot in society that we need to get to the source of, and not just hit people as they get exposed. Or it won't ever go completely away.

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Good illustration to my point - its a rot in society that we need to get to the source of, and not just hit people as they get exposed. Or it won't ever go completely away.
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