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Old 10-11-2017, 09:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Louisiana and Mississippi are always at the bottom of lists. Always.
Arkansas is usually right there with them.
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Moore is 70 years old, like Sessions (also 70) and Trump (71). That generation is about to start dying in large numbers, and it won't be a moment too soon. Arpaio is fucking 85.

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It's not their age or generation, they were mean, cruel, evil people before they turned 70.
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Arkansas is usually right there with them.
No Arkansas listed here:

The 10 Poorest States In America - Business Insider

Arkansas may fall close to the bottom but it is consistently listed above Lousyana and Mississippi.





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The bottom five on the list are New Mexico, Alabama, Arkansas, Mississippi and us, Louisiana. We ranked close to last in every category.
That was from 2014. It hasn't improved and isn't likely to.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:49 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Take Arkansas and remove the Waltons (Wal Mart), Tysons (poultry), Hunts (trucking), and Stevens (brokerage) and the numbers radically change.

There is a stark difference between NW Arkansas where the money is and the Delta and Ozark counties. They are practically identical to Mississippi and Louisiana.
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Take Arkansas and remove the Waltons (Wal Mart), Tysons (poultry), Hunts (trucking), and Stevens (brokerage) and the numbers radically change.
True. However, the same could be said for LA and MS. Remove any of the large corporations and the whole thing collapses.

Say, are we having a pissing contest over which state is the worst? Cuz if we are, LA will always win, hands down.


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I am saying the whole Delta is bad. Most of Louisiana is in the Delta, so it is not surprising that it is one of the most depressed states.

Not arguing, but with Arkansas, I am not talking about corporations. Those four families control a huge amount of individual wealth. As of a few years ago, five of the ten wealthiest families in the US lived in NE Arkansas. They have strong conservative views and the money to control the state. That keeps taxes low (hence their staying in Arkansas) and services inadequate.
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There've been some posts in this thread suggesting Moore was Donald's boyo. He wasn't; Donald was backing his opponent Luther Strange in the Senate primary. Now that Moore has won, Donald of course is backing him as if he had right from the start.

It's true Moore is a Dominionist swine who should be a candidate for standing in front of a firing squad for his treason in trying to subvert the Constitution to make his brand of Christianity the law of the land. But Luther Strange is, I think, not an improvement. Google 'luther strange donald trump' and you'll find several articles including the one that quotes the tweets backing Strange that Cheeto deleted once the count started making it likely Strange would get whupped.

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In an interview with a local Fox [go figure] station Thursday, Strange said he had developed a "personal friendship of trust and respect" with Trump.
"I respect his background, what he's trying to do, the challenges he's taking on," Strange said. "I think he recognizes that in my background. ... I think we have a personal relationship and he needs a partner in Washington desperately."
Behind Trump's once-wavering Strange endorsement - CNNPolitics
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Ugh - just realized that this is the same article as the one cited by Mister Ohshino - sorry about that....

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After getting pushed out of the Alabama courts, Judge Moore created the Foundation of Moral Law to help push his agenda. Except, it appears to have also include a sweet heart deal guaranteeing the Judge a healthy, reliable income stream:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...=.0c38d088c6f6

If true, then Judge Moore may have mislead people about his benefits and role in the organization. It appears that he was well rewarded, and the organization did not follow IRS rules for documenting a charitable organization. Judge Moore's moral crusade may not have the same policies about money changers in the temple as some other religious leaders have suggested. Also, the whole truth telling thing may be open to interpretation as well.
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Really all you need to know about Moore:

Roy Moore Led Charge Against Removing Segregation From Alabama Constitution
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Democrats and Republicans led by then-Gov. Bob Riley (R) worked together on an amendment to remove language in the state constitution mandating “separate schools for white and colored children” and allowing poll taxes, Jim Crow-era requirements that people to pay to vote that disenfranchised most black people.

The changes were purely symbolic — all of the state constitutional language had already been struck down by state and federal courts — but civil rights and business leaders saw it as a way to heal old wounds and make the state more attractive to big business.

The opposite happened instead, and Moore’s fierce opposition likely made the difference.
This was 2004.
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I am saying the whole Delta is bad. Most of Louisiana is in the Delta, so it is not surprising that it is one of the most depressed states.

Not arguing, but with Arkansas, I am not talking about corporations. Those four families control a huge amount of individual wealth. As of a few years ago, five of the ten wealthiest families in the US lived in NE Arkansas. They have strong conservative views and the money to control the state. That keeps taxes low (hence their staying in Arkansas) and services inadequate.
I grew up in Lousyana. You know the town where Dakota lives now? Yeah. That one.

What I'm trying to put politely is that you aren't telling me anything I haven't known for several decades.

I'm a product of that environment, so to speak, and I am not very conservative. I actually fall to the left side of center. I'm not the only one.

So, we all know that Bill Gates was the richest man in America (and one of the wealthiest human beings on the planet), but who exactly is the richest man in Louisiana? Aaaand Louisiana’s fattest cat is…

…New Orleans Saints owner, New Orleans Hornets owner and car dealer, Tom Benson. Worth about $2.2 billion.

At least we’re doing better than Mississippi, Delaware, Alaska, Hawaii, Maine, New Mexico, Utah or Wyoming. Those states don’t have any billionaires hanging around. The best they can dig up are multi-millionaires. So sad, isn’t it?

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I grew up in Lousyana. You know the town where Dakota lives now? Yeah. That one.

What I'm trying to put politely is that you aren't telling me anything I haven't known for several decades.

I'm a product of that environment, so to speak, and I am not very conservative. I actually fall to the left side of center. I'm not the only one.

So, we all know that Bill Gates was the richest man in America (and one of the wealthiest human beings on the planet), but who exactly is the richest man in Louisiana? Aaaand Louisiana’s fattest cat is…

…New Orleans Saints owner, New Orleans Hornets owner and car dealer, Tom Benson. Worth about $2.2 billion.

At least we’re doing better than Mississippi, Delaware, Alaska, Hawaii, Maine, New Mexico, Utah or Wyoming. Those states don’t have any billionaires hanging around. The best they can dig up are multi-millionaires. So sad, isn’t it?

This started when you disagreed with me. I keep replying because you keep disagreeing with me. I am not trying to tell you what you already know. I respect your knowledge and experience. I just made an off-handed-remark that Arkansas is also pretty fucked up, which I think we agree it is.
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This started when you disagreed with me. I keep replying because you keep disagreeing with me. I am not trying to tell you what you already know. I respect your knowledge and experience. I just made an off-handed-remark that Arkansas is also pretty fucked up, which I think we agree it is.
I didn't disagree with you. Where did I say I did?

Arkansas has always been right down there close to the bottom along with LA and MS but I don't recall AR ever being consistently at the very bottom the way LA and MS always have been. LA and MS have always been below AR. That's all I was saying.
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What Google autocomplete apparently says (or said recently) when you start the question "Why is [US State] so ...".

via https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/com...e_so_1024x690/. More data here: What Each State Asks Google? [Map] (Surprising!)

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If true, then Judge Moore may have mislead people about his benefits and role in the organization. It appears that he was well rewarded, and the organization did not follow IRS rules for documenting a charitable organization. Judge Moore's moral crusade may not have the same policies about money changers in the temple as some other religious leaders have suggested. Also, the whole truth telling thing may be open to interpretation as well.
He also apparently perjured himself in front of a jury in the matter as well as committed mortgage fraud, if what my sources in the ADC have passed along are saying is true. The story is still developing. This is some pretty explosive pudu.
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