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Old 09-13-2018, 07:30 AM   #301 (permalink)
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Yes, all you can really do is get out of its way and clean up after.

Or we can *gasp* do something about climate change so future storms are not as bad.
I don't know how burning less coal will stop God from punishing The Gays with bad weather.

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Now the Orange Shitstain in the Oval Office is denying that thousands of people died from the hurricanes in Puerto Rico, claiming that the Democrats padded the number to make him look bad (as if he needs any help in that department)

Donald Trump Denies that 3,000 People Died in Puerto Rico After Hurricane Maria - Huffpost
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Now the Orange Shitstain in the Oval Office is denying that thousands of people died from the hurricanes in Puerto Rico, claiming that the Democrats padded the number to make him look bad (as if he needs any help in that department)

Donald Trump Denies that 3,000 People Died in Puerto Rico After Hurricane Maria - Huffpost

How on earth is it possible that the Americans allow such proven liar and conman to stay in office?
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How on earth is it possible that the Americans allow such proven liar and conman to stay in office?

We have a process for removing a president, but both houses of Congress are controlled by his party. That may change on Nov 6th.
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Old 09-13-2018, 01:58 PM   #305 (permalink)
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Because he is surrounded by people with guns.
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Old 09-13-2018, 02:15 PM   #306 (permalink)
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How on earth is it possible that the Americans allow such proven liar and conman to stay in office?
I've been asking myself that same question since November 9, 2016. I am by no means alone in that. Most of the answers I see make me feel even worse than did the election itself. Well, maybe not 'worse'. Almost as bad, though.

The only answer which gives me a shred of hope (and the one to which I naturally give the most credence) is that not nearly enough people recognized the danger and got up off their asses and VOTED!

I cling to the hope that won't happen again. There are more people who think Trump is a menace than there are Trumpistas. A lot more. I don't care (for the duration) about their allegiance to any cause. All I care about is losing Trump. We can fight about the rest later.
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Been out knocking on doors, talking to people...doing my part to make that happen. I think a lot of us are, and I think it will. Two of my door knocking partners have been registered Republicans. Canvassing for a progressive Mennonite candidate. We've had good conversations with registered Republicans, Democrats and Independents. I have hope.
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He takes it as a personal attack and blames domestic politics.

Did FDR do that after Pearl Harbor?
Did GWB do that after 9/11?

Name just *one* other president who responded that way to the loss of american lives. Storm, an attack by another country, whatever.
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Been out knocking on doors, talking to people...doing my part to make that happen. I think a lot of us are, and I think it will. Two of my door knocking partners have been registered Republicans. Canvassing for a progressive Mennonite candidate. We've had good conversations with registered Republicans, Democrats and Independents. I have hope.
Thank you!

It looks like I got to really pull for Claire McCaskill. She's basically a moderate republican and votes with Trump almost half the time, but she's as far left as what will ever have a shot in my redneck state. I'm cautiously optimistic that she'd vote with the dem's for more aggressive action if the political tide turned far enough.
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Been out knocking on doors, talking to people...doing my part to make that happen. I think a lot of us are, and I think it will.
We're even mounting a respectable effort in bright red Kansas!

One thing I've noticed between 2016 and now is that I used to have to explain what was at stake before the last general election.

Now, I go to a door and tell them who I am, and they are a LOT more willing to talk and listen. I think I've helped about 3 dozen people register to vote, and wrote down addresses so we could give them a ride on election day. We may not win even now, but we're not going down without a fight.

It's just a crying shame that Pat Roberts (spawn of Satan) isn't up this time around. His turn is coming in 2020.
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He takes it as a personal attack and blames domestic politics.

Did FDR do that after Pearl Harbor?
Did GWB do that after 9/11?

Name just *one* other president who responded that way to the loss of american lives. Storm, an attack by another country, whatever.
I don't know of any other president who acted like a giant manbaby when things didn't go his way.
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He's still railing on about Puerto Rico's hurricane death count:

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WTF Donnie? Who says that about death estimates? I am sure their families wished they were alive rather than part of a number you think is all about you.

In extreme events like that official estimates soon after it mean nothing. It was obvious to everyone (except you) that the official estimates when you visited were nowhere near the actual toll. I would not be surprised if 3,000 was low too, that was a pair of killer storms back to back during an administration that did not really support them in their response (and still does not).
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Old 09-16-2018, 03:17 PM   #316 (permalink)
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Yes or no, would the deaths have happened if there were not storms?

As much as donnieites may think it all about their lord and savior it is not. It is about having less overall deaths from future storms by learning what went wrong. If donnie thinks the 3,000 is an attempt to blame him does that mean he takes PERSONAL responsibility for each and every death that was officially reported early on?
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