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Old 08-12-2017, 07:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Right now we've an attempt at a dictatorship with a madman, instead of a Theocracy where they'd probably try burning people like me at the stake [for several reasons].
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Hey I've said it before. Donald Trump may not be a religious fundamentalist; but he openly panders to them for support, which means there's no functional difference:

There is no law a President Pence would sign that President Trump would veto

There is no executive order that a President Pence would issue, that President Trump would not issue first.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm still convinced the Republicans are plotting a soft coup against Trump. My guess is they'll find something medical and conflate it into a situation where he is declared unable to command, and will stuff money and honors and various shows of respect to make him shut up and step down. Russia and China will step up and give him magnificent mansions to live in with staff and a private golf course - it'll be cheaper than a World War.
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I'm still convinced the Republicans are plotting a soft coup against Trump. My guess is they'll find something medical and conflate it into a situation where he is declared unable to command
I'd have to agree. There's absolutely no way Trump will want to go quietly, but if the Party can make it clear what a cozy deal he's getting from it, he might be persuaded to oh-so reluctantly confirm that whilst he'd dearly love to continue to fight against the horrors of Hillary, he's forced - absolutely unavoidably - to step down.

Of course, what happens to the rest of the senior leadership with Mueller's investigations remains to be seen; I'd be amazed if Pence survives, given how closely implicated he is as well. Likewise Ryan - they're all entirely aware of just how closely allied they've become to Putin, and are just as comfortable with it, not seeing anything wrong with such funding, as long as the bank transfers clear.
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The big difference is that Pence knows what he's doing, and Twitler doesn't.

Oh, and Republicans actually like Pence.

So, Pence -would- be worse.
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But Pence would not be antagonizing North Korea like Dump Truck is.
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But Pence would not be antagonizing North Korea like Dump Truck is.
No, he'd spend his time as president antagonizing U.S. women, immigrants, the poor, gay...
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Even ignoring the additional creep-factor added with the video-hax, he really makes my skin crawl.

Just watching his face and expressions:
the furrowed brow,
the wincing,
the beady little eyes,
the whatever-is-wrong with his left outer eyebrow that causes it to crimp downward strangely...
the freakishly large gap between his upper lip and nose...

He looks and acts like someone who's had all sense of self crushed out of him. All that's left is some robot parroting crap that seems to elicit a desirable response... "FIRE BAD! RARRGH! GAYS BAD! MUSLIMS BAD! TAX CUTS GOOD! PRAISE JESUS! RAAARGH!"
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Looks like his site was hacked. Even so, he'd be less heinous than Trump at this point.

HOWEVER, if Trump goes down, you know he's taking Pence with him.
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Right now we've an attempt at a dictatorship with a madman, instead of a Theocracy where they'd probably try burning people like me at the stake [for several reasons].
For me it is at least 3 obvious ones and several ones they may not even notice. So yeah, calling for Donnie to be impeached strikes me as extremely privileged.
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Hey I've said it before. Donald Drumpf may not be a religious fundamentalist; but he openly panders to them for support, which means there's no functional difference:

There is no law a President Pence would sign that President Drumpf would veto

There is no executive order that a President Pence would issue, that President Drumpf would not issue first.
Pence knows how to work the system. Donnie does not. Take the trans military thing. Both would order it. Penis would not waste any time and send off the correct paperwork rather than send some tweets then take time figuring out what the procedure is.

Donnie also has a HUGE target. His ego comes first and foremost. This is not someone who could do anything that requires strategy or even bluffing.
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HOWEVER, if Trump goes down, you know he's taking Pence with him.
I know no such thing, and neither do you.
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HOWEVER, if Trump goes down, you know he's taking Pence with him.
We could only hope. But unfortunately, I feel Pence is smart enough to step out of the bight of the anchor rope before it snares him and throws him over the side with Trump.
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We could only hope. But unfortunately, I feel Pence is smart enough to step out of the bight of the anchor rope before it snares him and throws him over the side with Trump.
Except that Pence has made some Nixon level lies already - like that he didn't know Flynn was being investigated, when he was directly told by Flynn of the fact.

And he's being actively investigated now, too.
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HOWEVER, if Trump goes down, you know he's taking Pence with him.
President Ryan would be the most obedient rubber stamper we've seen in a long time, at least until dems retake part of Congress, then he'll veto everything. so, better than Rump or Penis, but only barely.

The benefit of rump is that he's damaging the Republican brand more every day he's in office. The other two aren't as blatantly batshit crazy.
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No, he'd spend his time as president antagonizing U.S. women, immigrants, the poor, gay...
Yes, but is that worse than nuclear war and the end of life on earth?

His dick waving contests are likely to bring that about. Although in fairness it would be equal opportunity annihilation.
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I know no such thing, and neither do you.
Actually, yes....why yes we do know that.

45's personality alone dictates (snorts) that he will take whoever he can with him if he goes down and that will be done in order to place blame because obviously he has done nothing wrong.

If anyone thinks differently, they haven't been paying attention.

(and probably why the R's are reluctant to do much about him at this point. They know that they will be hit hard in the cross fire from 45 directly and they may not survive it politically.)
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No, he'd spend his time as president antagonizing U.S. women, immigrants, the poor, gay...
And that's different from Trump how?
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People forget that the President is not a King. He can't do much on his own without Congress approving it first.
Trump has failed far, far more than he has succeeded. Trump can't get Obamacare repealed, Trump can't get the military to listen to him and make them stop letting trans soldiers serve. Trump can't get a budget passed. He can't even get his wall built.EVERYONE wants an infrastructure bill, and Trump could not even get that done yet. He is a nutjob and he is dangerous, but luckily he is also his own worst enemy 60% of the time.

Pence is a machiavellian politician who knows how to play the game. Pence is a right wing Francis Underwood. He knows politics and he knows how a government works and he knows how to get what he wants. Trump will never lay a glove on him. Look at his record as governor of Indiana. He can get all the above done without breaking a sweat. The scariest part is that Pence actually believes the things he says.
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Do we want Trump starting WWIII or do we want Pence screwing us every other way?
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If you fear WW3 move to a city. One flash and it is over. I feel bad for people in rural areas with no significant targets for 100 miles or so. Most likely they will die as well but it will be slowly.
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