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Old 06-28-2017, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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FBI scrutinizes Kaspersky Lab

It was revealed today that the FBI has been interviewing employees of Kaspersky Lab, and that while no specific accusations have been made, indistinct national security concerns involving Kaspersky Lab have existed for some time now. Kaspersky is a Russian company, headquartered in Moscow; its CEO is ex-Russian intelligence, and draws hundreds of millions of dollars internationally, having software with system-level access to computers all over the globe. Bloomberg reported two years ago that the company had recently undergone a leadership shakeup that removed a number of upper-level company managers and officers, filling the positions with government-connected replacements. None of this is exactly incriminating; but it certainly raises some curiosity, particularly in the wake of recent events.
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Some dramatic new context to the US intelligence community's recent antipathy for Kaspersky software. Up until now we haven't had much explanation for why the USIC has taken such a set against it over the past year or so, other than it being Russian-owned and -operated by a fellow with government connections.

It turns out the US intelligence community isn't just concerned Kaspersky could compromise secure information. According to them, it's already been done:

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U.S. authorities believe Russian-backed hackers successfully stole highly-sensitive U.S. government documents by exploiting a popular antivirus software on the home computer of a man working for the National Security Agency, ABC News has been told by several people familiar with the matter.

The massive theft took place in 2015, the sources said, after the man brought home classified documents from his job at the NSA. One source said the man brought the materials home so he could expand his work-related skills, in hopes of being promoted.

On his home computer, the man was using antivirus software from the Moscow-based company Kaspersky Lab, sources said. Russian-backed hackers were able to target his computer and steal his files through the software, sources added.

The still-unidentified man has been cooperating with federal investigators, according to sources.

Kaspersky Lab's CEO, Eugene Kaspersky, dismissed the recently-disclosed case as a "new conspiracy theory." The company said in a statement that it "has not been provided any information or evidence substantiating this alleged incident."

Today's news comes a month after the Department of Homeland Security directed all 430 departments, agencies and offices comprising the U.S. government to rid their systems of any software made by Kaspersky Lab, one of the world's most renowned cybersecurity firms. U.S. officials allege the company has ties to the Russian government, and they have increasingly expressed concern that foreign hackers could try to utilize Kaspersky Lab software to spy on Americans, steal sensitive files or attack critical infrastructure.
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I almost can't believe the Federal Government has been using their software. Almost.
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NYT - How the Kaspersky spy hack was discovered

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It was a case of spies watching spies watching spies: Israeli intelligence officers looked on in real time as Russian government hackers searched computers around the world for the code names of American intelligence programs.

What gave the Russian hacking, detected more than two years ago, such global reach was its improvised search tool — antivirus software made by a Russian company, Kaspersky Lab, that is used by 400 million people worldwide, including by officials at some two dozen American government agencies.

The Israeli officials who had hacked into Kaspersky’s own network alerted the United States to the broad Russian intrusion, which has not been previously reported, leading to a decision just last month to order Kaspersky software removed from government computers.

The Russian operation, described by multiple people who have been briefed on the matter, is known to have stolen classified documents from a National Security Agency employee who had improperly stored them on his home computer, on which Kaspersky’s antivirus software was installed. What additional American secrets the Russian hackers may have gleaned from multiple agencies, by turning the Kaspersky software into a sort of Google search for sensitive information, is not yet publicly known.

The current and former government officials who described the episode spoke about it on condition of anonymity because of classification rules.

Like most security software, Kaspersky Lab’s products require access to everything stored on a computer in order to scour it for viruses or other dangers. Its popular antivirus software scans for signatures of malicious software, or malware, then removes or neuters it before sending a report back to Kaspersky. That procedure, routine for such software, provided a perfect tool for Russian intelligence to exploit to survey the contents of computers and retrieve whatever they found of interest.

The National Security Agency and the White House declined to comment for this article. The Israeli Embassy declined to comment, and the Russian Embassy did not respond to requests for comment.

The Wall Street Journal reported last week that Russian hackers had stolen classified N.S.A. materials from a contractor using the Kaspersky software on his home computer. But the role of Israeli intelligence in uncovering that breach and the Russian hackers’ use of Kaspersky software in the broader search for American secrets have not previously been disclosed.

Kaspersky Lab denied any knowledge of, or involvement in, the Russian hacking. “Kaspersky Lab has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts,” the company said in a statement Tuesday afternoon. Kaspersky Lab also said it “respectfully requests any relevant, verifiable information that would enable the company to begin an investigation at the earliest opportunity.”
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Why does this story not feel real? 2015 and NSA agents are allowed to take "highly sensitive" information home and put it on their home computer?! Really?!!

Whats next? Super hot russian spy woman targets nerdy NSA programmer who hasn't gotten laid in years only to drug him at home and steal his access card?
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Why does this story not feel real? 2015 and NSA agents are allowed to take "highly sensitive" information home and put it on their home computer?! Really?!!
Well I definitely wouldn't use the word "allowed". The NSA and alumni employees have been pretty emphatic that none of this stuff is ever supposed to leave the building; it's practically the Prime Directive of working for the NSA. But whether or not it's allowed, it does keep happening anyway and yeah that is a serious, serious issue.
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Well I definitely wouldn't use the word "allowed". The NSA and alumni employees have been pretty emphatic that none of this stuff is ever supposed to leave the building; it's practically the Prime Directive of working for the NSA.
Not just the NSA. I worked with classified information at Boeing. All the data was *traceable*, by means of a signature sheet. You had better hope you had your copy of the handoff signature if an item turned up missing. They always knew who had a copy of what data.

If the NSA is being so sloppy that people are just walking out with copies, they need an overhaul of their system.

I will now refer to the former anti-virus company as "KasperSpy Lab"
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Trust First: Kaspersky Lab launches its Global Transparency Initiative; will provide source code – including updates – for a third-party review; will open three Transparency Centers worldwide

The Global Transparency Initiative is part of Kaspersky Lab’s ongoing commitment to assuring the integrity and trustworthiness of its products in service of its corporate mission: protecting customers from cyberthreats
https://usa.kaspersky.com/about/pres...ncy-initiative

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Should You Believe the Rumors About Kaspersky Lab?
Is Russian software company Kaspersky Lab colluding with the FSB? Stealing private information? Rumors abound, without any hard evidence to back them up.
https://www.pcmag.com/commentary/356...-kaspersky-lab

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My personal take: Even if the allegations about Kaspersky are true -- considering that the NSA/FBI can tap into the internet via Tier1 (backbone) and ISPs, it's only fair that the Ruskies can see my yiff porn too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/16/u...t-traffic.html

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In other news, there's a free version now.
https://usa.kaspersky.com/free-antivirus

It should have the same detection rates as the full one, just fewer extra bells and whistles. Best of all, they've kept the adverting minimal, unlike some other free AV solutions. Rather than constantly popping up telling you to upgrade, there's just "look what you're missing" grayed out stuff in the interface.

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Some dramatic new context to the US intelligence community's recent antipathy for Kaspersky software. Up until now we haven't had much explanation for why the USIC has taken such a set against it over the past year or so, other than it being Russian-owned and -operated by a fellow with government connections.

It turns out the US intelligence community isn't just concerned Kaspersky could compromise secure information. According to them, it's already been done:
Yet another reason for the list of why I do not like running antivirus software. Unfortunately too many companies get bad security advice on many things so I have to lower my system's security to connect to their networks.
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I almost can't believe the Federal Government has been using their software. Almost.
Oh, I can fully believe it. They think anti-virus software is a silver bullet and always go with the low bidder on things. Kapersky is inexpensive (15.99 on sale right now if anyone thinks cheap security software which may be a backdoor is a good idea).
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um Kara? Did you happen to notice the date of Io's post?
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um Kara? Did you happen to notice the date of Io's post?
Yes? Two months before me which hardly makes it a necro, especially since most of my posts were about SOP within the government (to which 2 months is nothing).
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Yes? Two months before me which hardly makes it a necro, especially since most of my posts were about SOP within the government (to which 2 months is nothing).
I wasn't thinking of necro but more along the line of "don't be surprised if you don't get a reply".
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Ah, since I am not in every forum all the time I missed the reference at first.
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Can I just go with "don't bring classified material home dumbass!" There's only one reason to bring classified material home, and that's because you're stoopid enough ta think ya can sell it!"
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