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Old 06-18-2017, 02:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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US infrastructure is falling apart here's a look at how terrible things have become

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When you drive into Georgia from Alabama and Florida, there is a very noticeable change in road quality. The sad thing being, it used to be Georgia had the best roads in this part of the country. Now, they are the worst of the three. And this is even on interstates.
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You know, if someone wanted to actually create real jobs instead of chasing after a dead energy sector, there almost might be some sort of opportunity here.
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It's pretty noticeable driving just across the state line into Virginia.

You go from a fairly well-maintained parkway, plus a massive and undergoing widening of the local highway, onto what is essentially a backwoods road with deep cracks in it, overgrown gullies, trees threatening to scratch your car, lights that don't work, etc.

It's essentially the same road, but one fork is parkway and the other isn't. And it's only about a 20 minute drive.
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Instead of spending billions on that stupid wall, that money could be far better spent updating our infrastructure. It seems far better than jacking up taxes and vehicle registration fees like California is doing later this year.
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Instead of spending billions on that stupid wall, that money could be far better spent updating our infrastructure.
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Instead of spending billions on that stupid wall, that money could be far better spent updating our infrastructure. It seems far better than jacking up taxes and vehicle registration fees like California is doing later this year.
Government paying for roads is Commie Talk, we should just let private sectors do it (and make them all toll roads).

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Heh. That's already starting to happen in Orange County.

But seriously, I don't mind some of my taxes going toward road maintenance. That's the way it should be. What I do mind is that we already have the second most expensive gas in the nation, behind only Hawaii, and exorbitant vehicle registration fees, and our highways are utter crap! But, hey, soon we'll have that fancy high-speed train that runs from nowhere to nowhere. Bonus!

Hmmm, upon thinking about it, maybe that's the whole plan: By making it too expensive to drive, and our roads too crappy to drive on, more people will be inclined to take that train.
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Heh. That's already starting to happen in Orange County.

But seriously, I don't mind some of my taxes going toward road maintenance. That's the way it should be. What I do mind is that we already have the second most expensive gas in the nation, behind only Hawaii, and exorbitant vehicle registration fees, and our highways are utter crap! But, hey, soon we'll have that fancy high-speed train that runs from nowhere to nowhere. Bonus!

Hmmm, upon thinking about it, maybe that's the whole plan: By making it too expensive to drive, and our roads too crappy to drive on, more people will be inclined to take that train.
The train will likely end up being too expensive for most to ride.
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This state doesn't care about anything but social welfare ---- and environmental regs -- jobs are going gone but for high tech tech.

The nowhere train is perfect for us.

And gas tax going up http://tinyurl.com/y74dzp6m

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This state doesn't care about anything but social welfare ---- and environmental regs -- jobs are going gone but for high tech tech.

The nowhere train is perfect for us.

And gas tax going up California gas tax increase - what it costs and what it does | The Sacramento Bee
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When you drive into Georgia from Alabama and Florida, there is a very noticeable change in road quality. The sad thing being, it used to be Georgia had the best roads in this part of the country. Now, they are the worst of the three. And this is even on interstates.
The first time I drove across the South I was really taken by the drop in road quality at the Texas-Louisiana border. And that was on I-10.
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The first time I drove across the South I was really taken by the drop in road quality at the Texas-Louisiana border. And that was on I-10.
One of the things that should be considered is the terrain on which the interstate was built. Loess being one. Not the most stable ground to be building roads on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loess

You'll need to scroll down to the bottom of the pdf (8 pages) to see the map. Keep in mind that about half of the state was part of the Gulf sea floor at one time. People still find fossils of sea plants as far north as central Louisiana.

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ETA: Texas also has a lot more people paying taxes so they can afford to resurface more often. Louisiana... not so much.

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One of the things that should be considered is the terrain on which the interstate was built. Loess being one. Not the most stable ground to be building roads on.
I'm talking about a change *right at the border*. Like, within a matter of feet.

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I'm talking about a change *right at the border*. Like, within a matter of feet.

Which was my point.
I know exactly where you were talking about is. I did live there most of my life and have traveled the I-10 corridor more times than I can remember both ways.

The Lake Charles bridge (aka Calcasieu River Bridge, aka WWII Memorial Bridge) STILL scares the shit out of me. Yes, I'm one of those people. That bridge has always scared me since I was a small child. Straight up and straight down. No need for a roller coaster.
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The Lake Charles bridge (aka Calcasieu River Bridge, aka WWII Memorial Bridge) STILL scares the shit out of me. Yes, I'm one of those people. That bridge has always scared me since I was a small child. Straight up and straight down. No need for a roller coaster.
Coming over that bridge from Louisiana towards Houston the first time was surreal. It was evening and the refineries were flaring off and I was driving down into them... and in the dim reddish light it felt EXACTLY like the intro to Blade Runner.
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Coming over that bridge from Louisiana towards Houston the first time was surreal. It was evening and the refineries were flaring off and I was driving down into them... and in the dim reddish light it felt EXACTLY like the intro to Blade Runner.
Blade Runner hadn't even been thought of yet the first time I went over. Imagine the kind of hell a 5/6 year old child would see. Terror becomes an understatement.

ETA: Back then the transition wasn't noticeable. It did start becoming noticeable in the late 70s and has only become more so since then.
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ETA: Texas also has a lot more people paying taxes so they can afford to resurface more often. Louisiana... not so much.
I thought the federal government paid for interstate maintenance? Or do they just reimburse the state?
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I thought the federal government paid for interstate maintenance? Or do they just reimburse the state?
The Feds don't pay for all of it. They use a matching system.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/intmaint.cfm
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The Feds don't pay for all of it. They use a matching system.

https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/infrastructure/intmaint.cfm
And if I'm remembering correctly, back in the 80s, LA was like the last state to be willing to raise the legal drinking age back up to 21, and so for a bit, they didn't get ANY help.
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And if I'm remembering correctly, back in the 80s, LA was like the last state to be willing to raise the legal drinking age back up to 21, and so for a bit, they didn't get ANY help.
Yes and no.

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Yes and no.

https://digbr.com/time-to-change-lou...-drinking-age/

Yes it's a blog but it saves me from having to type all that out.

Part of it was having a friend from LA back in the day, but we were in GA and well, we spent entirely too much time drunk.
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Part of it was having a friend from LA back in the day, but we were in GA and well, we spent entirely too much time drunk.
Even my memories are a little fuzzy from back then.

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