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Old 06-18-2017, 01:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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High-Stakes Referendum on Trump Takes Shape in a Georgia Special Election

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Old 06-19-2017, 12:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's only polling, of course, not a communique from the future - but FWIW, RCP's polling summary suggests Ossoff has a couple percent lead:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...soff-6202.html
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I am guessing everyone in the country has pretty much the same thought right now.

ONLY 2 MORE DAYS TO THOSE *&^$!):~ FUNDRAISING EMAILS ABOUT THIS ELECTION STOP!!!!!!!! They are worse than normal spam because you know if you give money you will only get more of them.
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Also, I know my mom and her friends, and everyone else living anywhere -near the 6th will be glad when the ads stop - Handel's ads are particularly nasty, was never so glad to have the power go out in a restaurant as I was last week. The silence was a real blessing.
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The NYT has a live results page:

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/re...-ossoff-handel

Polling only closed (in most locations) at 7pm ET, and they note that "Georgia often takes a long time to count its votes".
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Also, I know my mom and her friends, and everyone else living anywhere -near the 6th will be glad when the ads stop - Handel's ads are particularly nasty, was never so glad to have the power go out in a restaurant as I was last week. The silence was a real blessing.
You mean someone has worse ads than the fundraising emails I keep getting? Half with a subject line of one result and half with the opposite .... I wonder if the DNC is doing a/b testing with fundraising.
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Some background on Ossoff's opponent, Karen Handel:

Meet Jon Ossoff’s Republican opponent: She made her name destroying the reputation of Susan G. Komen Race for the Cure - Salon.com

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In January 2012, the Komen foundation, as it’s typically called, quietly announced that it was terminating a $700,000 grant made to a number of Planned Parenthood clinics to fund mammograms and other breast cancer-related services. This was less than a year after Republicans, led by then-congressman Mike Pence, used the threat of a government shutdown to bar Medicaid patients from using Planned Parenthood services. Suspicions immediately arose in the women’s health care world that Komen was responding to political pressure from conservative Christians who wished to stigmatize Planned Parenthood.

The entire incident was a PR nightmare for the Komen foundation. At first the organization denied that the move had been political, claiming that it was a reaction to an ethics investigation of Planned Parenthood launched by Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla. That excuse didn’t hold water because, like every other Republican “investigation” of Planned Parenthood, Stearns’ effort was an empty political exercise motivated by a desire to harass the women’s health organization, with no sincere concerns about ethics violations.

It was quickly revealed, moreover, that those initial suspicions had been right and that the Komen move was political in nature.
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Not looking good, 53% Handel, 47% Ossoff with 62% reporting.
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CNN just declared Handel the winner.
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The end of those bloody fundraising emails!!!!
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Republican Karen Handel defeats Democrat Jon Ossoff in Georgia’s 6th Congressional District - Washington Post

I can't say I didn't see it coming, but still...

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The only good thing is that this is a special election and that now he has name recognition for next year when he starts again.
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Ossoff is actually from the 6th district - he's currently living outside because of his fiancee, while she finishes school, which will be soon - and Handel's ads did everything from calling him a baby eating monster to implying he's a stranger to the district and a washington inside.

And yes, a LOT worse than the fundraising emails.
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And yes, a LOT worse than the fundraising emails.
This is one of there 'LOT worse' ads. It is in reference to the Scalise baseball shooting. It starts with the sounds of gunfire and - "The unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans. When will it stop? It won't if John Ossoff wins on Tuesday."

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This is one of there 'LOT worse' ads. It is in reference to the Scalise baseball shooting. It starts with the sounds of gunfire and - "The unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans. When will it stop? It won't if John Ossoff wins on Tuesday."
Yep, she is sleeze. More of the same in the White House. That is a truly despicable commercial. Endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans? That should be grounds for a lawsuit right there!
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Yep, she is sleeze. More of the same in the White House. That is a truly despicable commercial. Endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans? That should be grounds for a lawsuit right there!
If I were a Democrat, I'd be looking into class action.

If I were a Democrat.
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Yep, she is sleeze. More of the same in the White House. That is a truly despicable commercial. Endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans? That should be grounds for a lawsuit right there!
The despicable part is leftists endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans.
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The despicable part is leftists endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans.
There was more cheering on your side when your assassin went "hunting liberals" by shooting up a unitarian universalist church.
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There was more cheering on your side when your assassin went "hunting liberals" by shooting up a unitarian universalist church.
Not by anyone on 'my side'.
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This is one of there 'LOT worse' ads. It is in reference to the Scalise baseball shooting. It starts with the sounds of gunfire and - "The unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans. When will it stop? It won't if John Ossoff wins on Tuesday."

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Can someone revoke Kathie Lee's (sp) SAG card now? She has given the Rs plenty of traction with that stunt while doing absolutely nothing to help either liberal causes or even her career. Even viewed as performance art it is a pretty bad likeness.
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Given nobody here has said that about you and you have given us every reason to do so ...

In ANY group of people you will have the outliers. Hmm, Hitler was on the extreme right. Should we say all Rs want to send everyone to gas chambers? No? What about other infamous authoritarians? If your side can do it why does the same logic not apply?

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Ossoff is actually from the 6th district - he's currently living outside because of his fiancee, while she finishes school, which will be soon - and Handel's ads did everything from calling him a baby eating monster to implying he's a stranger to the district and a washington inside.

And yes, a LOT worse than the fundraising emails.
I don't know why they don't just run ads specifically discrediting these, right up against them.

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Given nobody here has said that about you and you have given us every reason to do so ...

In ANY group of people you will have the outliers. Hmm, Hitler was on the extreme right. Should we say all Rs want to send everyone to gas chambers? No? What about other infamous authoritarians? If your side can do it why does the same logic not apply?
Now there is a mighty fine example of a fine-tuned liberal mind.

I was responding to Jopsy who directed the following at me specifically; "There was more cheering on your side when your assassin went "hunting liberals" by shooting up a unitarian universalist church."

Now this is where things get complicated, so ask someone for help...
The clue that he was directing that to me is that he had quoted me in that post.

Now then - the clue for you is that I was specifically responding to his line in my post is (wait for it...) - I quoted his line in my response post in which I said; "Not by anyone on 'my side'."

Setting your extremely limited cognitive capabilities aside momentarily, I will respond to your questions:

no
yes
no
nobody on 'my side'

ps: If your side can do it why does the same logic not apply?

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