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Old 03-19-2017, 11:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Just another sign we need the big one to hit and knock California off the main continent and sink at sea. They can all become high priests of Atlantis/Mu/Gowandaland/Nutville finally.

Not that I agree with the waiter's actions but something about this just doesn't add up to me. Hopefully I'm wrong but my instincts say there's some missing info here.
Yeah. Not the sinking at sea part, but the not adding up part. It's wildly out of character for California and for southern California especially. We (the Anglos who live here) grow up in a two-language society. Our classmates include a great many kids whose parents were born in Mexico. The idea that Hispanic women would be somehow outside the norm for California is ridiculous. Either the waiter is a full-on Nazi or there's more to the story than has been revealed.

I see I wrote about my growing up in the present tense, but the fact I was referencing experiences that are decades old shouldn't matter. The same thing is true today.


ETA: and Brenda doesn't look a day older than nineteen.
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The Best Buy here has never asked for our IDs.
It does not seem to happen in DC but was routine in VA. I am guessing it was something to do with using a CC. Odd since usually they do not LET you use cash there so if you do not have a CC I guess they do not want your money.
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Oddly at least Best Buy asks for ID. I am not talking huge purchases, just $20 or $30 things. I have no idea why since nobody ever looks at the signature if you have to sign when using a credit card (go ahead, sign something like 'this is stolen' sometime).
does your cc have your name on it?
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It is not Friday. Why are you here anyway?

What business is it of the clerk's what my nonexistent DL says? Mythical because I do not drive: yes, I am one of those elite people you hear of that has a passport as a primary form of identification. Well, it was my primary one until it was stolen, now I had to get a non-driver's ID until I get a new passport again. Anyway, if I go on their web site with my CC nobody asks me for my ID so why should I need to show it in the store to buy the same exact item?
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Anyway, if I go on their web site with my CC nobody asks me for my ID so why should I need to show it in the store to buy the same exact item?
According to this, merchants are allowed to ask for but generally not allowed to require id to complete a credit card purchase.

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It does not seem to happen in DC but was routine in VA. I am guessing it was something to do with using a CC. Odd since usually they do LET you use cash there so if you do not have a CC I guess they do not want your money.
ther are also all sorts of stupid things that require ID checks these days by law, canned air, video games, and in some places even anything with a service contract
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Yeah. Not the sinking at sea part, but the not adding up part. It's wildly out of character for California and for southern California especially. We (the Anglos who live here) grow up in a two-language society. Our classmates include a great many kids whose parents were born in Mexico. The idea that Hispanic women would be somehow outside the norm for California is ridiculous. Either the waiter is a full-on Nazi or there's more to the story than has been revealed.

I see I wrote about my growing up in the present tense, but the fact I was referencing experiences that are decades old shouldn't matter. The same thing is true today.


ETA: and Brenda doesn't look a day older than nineteen.
What's always boggled my mind about people like this waiter, who live in states with SPANISH names, getting all huffy about Hispanic people living in those states, native or otherwise.
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It does not seem to happen in DC but was routine in VA. I am guessing it was something to do with using a CC. Odd since usually they do not LET you use cash there so if you do not have a CC I guess they do not want your money.
Must have been more of a local thing then, possibly to do with theft. Either of merchandise or CC theft, or both. The only thing we're asked is "debit or credit".

I have lived in places where you were carded regardless of payment method. I've even been carded when paying cash once. Needless to say I never went back to that particular place.
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I actually appreciate it when they ask me for ID if I'm using a credit card. Probably because I had a coworker (and "friend") steal a CC from me once, and then he proceeded to go on a $7,000 shopping spree. Had they asked for his ID at some of those retailers, he would have gotten away with far less. It took many months to get that all straightened out. Luckily, that CC was issued through my credit union, and their fraud department was very assertive and helpful.
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ther are also all sorts of stupid things that require ID checks these days by law, canned air, video games, and in some places even anything with a service contract
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I actually appreciate it when they ask me for ID if I'm using a credit card. Probably because I had a coworker (and "friend") steal a CC from me once, and then he proceeded to go on a $7,000 shopping spree. Had they asked for his ID at some of those retailers, he would have gotten away with far less. It took many months to get that all straightened out. Luckily, that CC was issued through my credit union, and their fraud department was very assertive and helpful.
If it's a store I've never been to or rarely go to then yes, I do appreciate the effort to ensure my security. If it's a store where I shop regularly and am known/recognized by the employees, I find it unnecessary.

It could cause us problems when it's a case of needing to use the other's debit card (we don't have CCs) to make a purchase since our last names do not match. So far it hasn't happened but I dread the day it does because that will be a day when it is imperative the purchase is made. Like the day I had to run out and buy a ramp so we could load one of the bikes into the back of the truck to get it home. Knowing the PIN wouldn't make any difference and calling a tow truck was not an option.
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Yeah. Not the sinking at sea part, but the not adding up part. It's wildly out of character for California and for southern California especially. We (the Anglos who live here) grow up in a two-language society. Our classmates include a great many kids whose parents were born in Mexico. The idea that Hispanic women would be somehow outside the norm for California is ridiculous. Either the waiter is a full-on Nazi or there's more to the story than has been revealed.

I see I wrote about my growing up in the present tense, but the fact I was referencing experiences that are decades old shouldn't matter. The same thing is true today.


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Just another sign we need the big one to hit and knock California off the main continent and sink at sea.
The other side of the San Andreas faultline feels pretty similarly about those east of it.
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It is not Friday. Why are you here anyway?

What business is it of the clerk's what my nonexistent DL says? Mythical because I do not drive: yes, I am one of those elite people you hear of that has a passport as a primary form of identification. Well, it was my primary one until it was stolen, now I had to get a non-driver's ID until I get a new passport again. Anyway, if I go on their web site with my CC nobody asks me for my ID so why should I need to show it in the store to buy the same exact item?
does the website ask for the billing address?

ps: you really should sign your CCs
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ps: you really should sign your CCs
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Must have been more of a local thing then, possibly to do with theft. Either of merchandise or CC theft, or both. The only thing we're asked is "debit or credit".

I have lived in places where you were carded regardless of payment method. I've even been carded when paying cash once. Needless to say I never went back to that particular place.
BB is .... odd. Most of the time they are not set up to take cash at ANY register. Which pretty much defeats the purpose of not letting kids have cards.
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I actually appreciate it when they ask me for ID if I'm using a credit card. Probably because I had a coworker (and "friend") steal a CC from me once, and then he proceeded to go on a $7,000 shopping spree. Had they asked for his ID at some of those retailers, he would have gotten away with far less. It took many months to get that all straightened out. Luckily, that CC was issued through my credit union, and their fraud department was very assertive and helpful.
I had my entire wallet stolen/lost once. Typically what people do is they go somewhere low-risk (a vending machine maybe) and see if the card is still active. My card companies noticed those initial places were not in my normal pattern so immediately called me.
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ps: you really should sign your CCs
Who says I do not?

BTW, interesting you should mention that. A person mentioned yesterday signing a CC with a smiley face. That way he can do the same on receipts. Actually almost nobody looks at the signature when you use a CC anyway (and your odds of that someone being a handwriting expert are practically 0), it is security theater. I thought it was a fun idea if he was ever called on it to be able to say it matched what was on his card.
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I write "Check ID" in the signature space on all my cards.

About half the time I'm asked to see the card (7-11 consistently interestingly enough), and about half of that I'm asked to show ID.
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Who says I do not?

BTW, interesting you should mention that. A person mentioned yesterday signing a CC with a smiley face. That way he can do the same on receipts. Actually almost nobody looks at the signature when you use a CC anyway (and your odds of that someone being a handwriting expert are practically 0), it is security theater. I thought it was a fun idea if he was ever called on it to be able to say it matched what was on his card.
When one doesn't sign the CC, one shouldn't be surprised when one is asked for ID.
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When one doesn't sign the CC, one shouldn't be surprised when one is asked for ID.
I do sign my cards. Are you about to prove otherwise now?
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