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Old 01-10-2017, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just posted this over in the other Trump thread:

CNN: Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him

Buzzfeed: The dossier itself
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I wish they would just fucking spit it out instead of teasing us this way FFS.
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We think it's big, but Trump supporters are all like, "YAWN!"
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I wish they would just fucking spit it out instead of teasing us this way FFS.
There is no teasing. It's all really clear in the report. It's right in the summary. I haven't read the rest of it yet, but he was working with Russia. He turned down 'sweetener' deals from them so they'd continue to try to persuade him. They have extensive material on him. More than enough for blackmail purposes. There's no way our government can let him take office. I don't see how.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...llegations.pdf

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I'm sure Trump is confident he can just sue the Russian sources if anything comes out.
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We think it's big, but Trump supporters are all like, "YAWN!"
I'm not sure it matters what Trump supporters are. If Russia has kompromat on Trump, and if you read the report, they more than fucking do, it doesn't matter what his supporter think. He can't become President when Russia has enough on him to blackmail him into doing what they want.

If his supporters want to keep loving him after finding out he had prostitutes piss on him, or on beds in front of him, in Russia, then they're too damn lost for me to care.

This is very serious.
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I'm sure Trump is confident he can just sue the Russian sources if anything comes out.
I'm pretty sure that was already considered. And I'm pretty sure it was covered. This isn't something intelligence just found out yesterday. Comey knew back in December. So did President Obama. Make no mistake about that. There's a reason why information has been released the way it has been. They knew before Christmas when and how they were releasing this.

Why do you think the story just broke about Russian crime bosses bailing Trump out of bankruptcy?

Donald Trump Was Bailed Out of Bankruptcy by Russia Crime Bosses | Alternet

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I wish they would just fucking spit it out instead of teasing us this way FFS.
I suspect that, all things being equal, Russia intends to release the compromising material in bits and pieces over the next few years, to ensure that Trump spends his presidency dealing with damaging allegations, and inquiries into them, and even less capable of taking a lead in international affairs than he would be at the best of times.
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I'm not sure it matters what Trump supporters are. If Russia has kompromat on Trump, and if you read the report, they more than fucking do, it doesn't matter what his supporter think. He can't become President when Russia has enough on him to blackmail him into doing what they want.

If his supporters want to keep loving him after finding out he had prostitutes piss on him, or on beds in front of him, in Russia, then they're too damn lost for me to care.

This is very serious.
You assume Trump has some sense of shame, and so did the Russians. They could dump all the information they have on him tomorrow, and he'd deny it - just like he denies making fun of that disabled reporters, and all his supporters would lap it up.

You guys can keep pulling your hair out and thumping your chests, but Trump will become our president on January 20th. I'm not happy about that, but I have accepted it.
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You assume Trump has some sense of shame, and so did the Russians. They could dump all the information they have on him tomorrow, and he'd deny it - just like he denies making fun of that disabled reporters, and all his supporters would lap it up.

You guys can keep pulling your hair out and thumping your chests, but Trump will become our president on January 20th. I'm not happy about that, but I have accepted it.
I don't think it's the sex stuff (or the shame that he would or would not feel) that's so shocking as much as the treason - that there seems to be proof now.
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Nothing will happen. Congress has already proven that they are Republicans before Americans. They will cling to power at any expense.
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THEN CALL YOUR FUCKING CONGRESSPEOPLE AND YOUR SENATORS!!!!

For FFS, if we just sit here on our asses and wring our fucking hands and whine about how Congress won't do anything, then they won't do anything. Then we're all to blame.

I've already left voicemail messages for both Senators and my Rep. And I'll be calling again first thing in the morning. If we let it go away, it will.

Our choice.

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And even if Congress or the Supreme Court said, "He cannot serve as President," what would happen? Would we just get stuck with President Pence?
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There is no teasing. It's all really clear in the report. It's right in the summary. I haven't read the rest of it yet, but he was working with Russia. He turned down 'sweetener' deals from them so they'd continue to try to persuade him. They have extensive material on him. More than enough for blackmail purposes. There's no way our government can let him take office. I don't see how.

http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...llegations.pdf

ETA: Oh, yes. It's there. "Golden showers" and all.
Good lord. We all know how petty, vindictive and grudge-holding he is, but that takes it to a whole new level.
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There was credible evidence before the election that Trump raped two young women, and he still got elected. By comparison, the golden showers, are tame.
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And even if Congress or the Supreme Court said, "He cannot serve as President," what would happen? Would we just get stuck with President Pence?
I doubt we'd get stuck with Pence. Have you bothered to read the report, Zaida? Perhaps you should. I doubt there are many people on Trump's team who aren't compromised in this to some extent.

I have no idea what would happen. It's unprecedented as far as I'm aware. But let's be clear here. If you think Watergate was a big deal, this is much more huge. If Trump's lawyer, Cohen, met secretly with Russian agents in Prague, as the report indicates, this should be easily verifiable beyond any doubt, and sure the hell points to Treason.
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Assuming this doesn't take him down either - better President Pence than President Piss Hair.
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Of course, but the fact that it is the Russians that had him on this that makes this news. It is called being compromised. More interesting in the report is the 5 yrs that they say they've been working on or with him, and the very damaging fact that his campaign members were in contact with them all throughout.

Nope, it probably won't make a bit of difference to the mind-dead Trump supporters. They have already proven that they don't mind a traitor in the White House.

The rest of us do, and intend to do as much as possible about it.
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