Chip Midnight

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/us...-elect.html?hp

Joshua Nightshade

THANK GOD.

Chip Midnight

It'll be nice to finally have a presidential election with a candidate I actually want to vote for.

Dnate Mars

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Fmeh

It's about f*cking time!

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Lecktor Hannibal

This will not end well.

Weston Graves

None of the candidates truely frightened me this time -- they can all pronounce "nuclear" correctly, but I'm pleased with these results.

Shiva Shiskabob

man, can't say i didn' start laughin' when i saw th'headlines. maybe it was surprise, maybe relief. glad its (th'primaries) are over.

now we'll really start t'see some of that patented political mysticism that obama seems t'be packin'.

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Fmeh

And now he'll choose a bafoon as his running mate.

Mortvent

she wants the VP slot if she can't get the P

But she's done and said so much, it'd be political suicide for Obama to accept her as a running mate.

Lianne Marten

I'm so fucking excited about this you have no idea.

McCain's speech tonight was embarrassing and awful and really sad. Clinton's speech sounded like she won the nomination and that she's "making no decisions tonight."

Obama's was fucking brilliant, and classy, and awesome.

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Lianne Marten

I cannot emphasize the difference between the three speeches tonight enough, and how it relates to how their campaigns have run so far.

McCain's was drab and uninspired, and took cheap, inaccurate shots at Obama to smatterings of applause and cue-carded cheers.

Clinton's was ME ME ME ME ME, with an audience that, while excited, was vitriolic to the idea that she hadn't won. One lady in the audience yelled out "You can't vote for Obama!"

Obama's was grateful to Clinton for providing a good fight, grateful to all the people who have been inspired to get involved in politics because of this race. It was inclusive to everyone, saying "we" have done this and "we" will do that, as opposed to Clinton's constant "I's" and "Me's." It was critical of McCain's policies, while staying away from personal attacks. It spoke to an idea of hope for the future, while remaining pragmatic about the struggles it will take to get there.

It was inspiring.

It was meaningful.

It was Presidential.

Eboni Khan

McCain's speech was terrible. The crowd was so boring. He is not inspiring. Le Sigh

Clinton. WTF Did you hear the Denver Denver Denver chants? That crowd was bat shit insane. I think she had to give the speech she gave or they would have kicked her ass.

Obama gave a great speech about nothing I can agree with. He is really an amazing speaker. The crowd he had was huge and electric.

I hope one day before I die I can see a Libertarian party candidate make it to the big time. I hate voting in every election for the lesser of 2 evils and never anyone I can really believe in.

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Teeny Leviathan

Sadly, political discourse will move away from "Bubba got a blowjob" to "Barack HUSSEIN Obama, Muslim". Again, the media will focus on petty crap instead of the issues. Hopefully, Obama will not provide the usual suspects a molehill to turn into a mountain. I'm glad he's 98% nominated, but I was tired of this campaign weeks ago, and November can't get here soon enough.

Envoy Costagravas

No matter which area of the political or social spectrum you reside, each and every one of us in the United States has to hold in their hands one particular fact: this country has nominated (for all intents and purposes) an African-American for a run for the highest elected office in the land. And his closest competitor, who ran long and hard, was a woman. I'm old enough to know a time when this would have been, to put it mildly, patently unthinkable.

If for no other reason, this gives me hope.

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Fmeh

You know, that's very true. Even 12 years ago the idea seemed out of reach.

Roxie Marten

It's over Hillary go home

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It's time to try
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Cristiano

The issue of Hillary Clinton and her supporters is something that does have to be dealt with. Yes, she needs to give up the fight for the nomination now, but she should not just be swept under the rug. It was an incredibly close race, it was not a blowout. The support of Clinton voters is going to be very important to winning the White House, especially in pivotal big states that Obama did not win and which McCain could beat him. I do hope Hillary is offered the VP slot - it will create a powerful ticket that McCain would have a difficult time countering, and it would go a long way to bring Clinton supporters out to vote for Obama in November, which is desperately needed to win the general election.

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Joshua Nightshade

It wasn't that close. Nor do I think he needs to court anyone who was supporting her.

And I think it's really unlikely she'd be offered, much less accept, the VP position.

Dnate Mars

I think there is just too much bad blood between the 2 of them for her to take the VP spot.

Joshua Nightshade

Asking her as VP does nothing to address her many shortcomings that caused what was viewed resolutely as an "in the bag" presidential nomination to be lost in the first place.

All it does is pay lip service to a group of people who supported her when only a vocal minority threatened to vote for McCain to begin with. I think most others will vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is regardless, or not at all. I don't expect a lot of them will vindictively switch parties because the candidate they wanted lost the nomination "fairly." I use the latter term loosely because nothing she's done in this campaign has been fair.

In the end I also think she feels that her position is as president and I think she has too much pride to concede that as VP.

Cristiano

You don't think he needs to court anyone who was supporting her? He definitely needs their votes to win - there is zero way he can win without them, and he did not win the major states, she did. True, a lot will vote for a Democrat, regardless - but many won't vote, or may vote fot McCain. He needs every one of those votes, as his support is not as strong with some groups who typically are the ones who come out on election day to vote.

Envoy Costagravas

I really hope two things:

1. She remains true to her words, and will do whatever she can to help the Democratic ticket, and by this I mean respecting the fact of not being chosen, and asking her supporters to help the team nonetheless.

2. That Obama resists any and all the pressure that is sure to come, and choose a VP that fits his team and his vision. I have a couple in mind, but he hasn't asked me for my opinion.

Above and beyond anything between the two of them, the choice of Clinton as VP is simply a minefield, from the legions of Hillary-haters on the Right to the baggage that Bill brings, not only past, but how the hell he'd manage to stay out of the picture in the future. No, she can still be an effective proponent of the people in numerous other ways, and I hope she'll come to that place on her own.

Joshua Nightshade

I'm saying that I don't really believe he's lost any of their votes. Come November the pissed off people will vote as they always have.

Ili Roviana

Hillary could go a long way toward closing the divide herself, by being an adult about this. Her speech tonight was an excellent opportunity, but she chose to keep fanning the flames. Being VP is not the only solution. That said, I'm not opposed to her in a VP slot, but I would be surprised to see her accept it.