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Old 01-07-2017, 03:15 PM   #301 (permalink)
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It only took London five days to reach its air pollution target in 2017.

Well target is maybe the wrong word the right word is limit and we breached it in 5 days. Woohoo go team UK. Brexit sure isn't slowing down our poisoning of ourselves and you know what's great, these are limits imposed by the Evil Empire of the EU. So as soon as we are out of that we can just ignore and scrap air pollution laws entirely and poison ourselves legally. Go us. Brexit forever. Right now only 10% of Alzheimers cases are due to air pollution but I bet we can make that 20% or 30% in no time.

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Old 01-08-2017, 06:42 AM   #303 (permalink)
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It only took London five days to reach its air pollution target in 2017.
Which has fuck-all to do with Brexit, which hasn't happened yet. I fear that you're letting this obsession get the better of you.
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Old 01-08-2017, 08:16 AM   #304 (permalink)
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In fairness I think the link was well described based on EU legal interests in agreed upon limits and UK seeming flauting of them (although I'll admit that there wasn't much likelihood of London itself meeting those targets)
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Right now only 10% of Alzheimers cases are due to air pollution but I bet we can make that 20% or 30% in no time.
Wait, does that mean China is making itself stupid?

China's Air Pollution Crisis Shows No Sign of Ending
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Which has fuck-all to do with Brexit, which hasn't happened yet. I fear that you're letting this obsession get the better of you.
It has everything to do with brexit. The air pollution targets are imposed by the EU. The government has fought against implementing them. The EU is doing what it always does, trying to make life better for its people while our government is doing what it always does, ignoring the health of it's people because it might involve spending some money.

Once out of the EU do you think the government will implement laws requiring air pollution to be controlled? Laws it has fought against? Or do you think they will be scrapped and the health of the people will once again take a back seat?

This is just one more way in which life will get worse outside of the EU.
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It has everything to do with brexit.
Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that a road in London just exceeded its year's limit in 5 days, as Brexit hasn't happened yet. Your predictions for the future may well be right, but have no direct relevance to the point under discussion.
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Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that a road in London just exceeded its year's limit in 5 days, as Brexit hasn't happened yet. Your predictions for the future may well be right, but have no direct relevance to the point under discussion.
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Sorry, with what part of this are you disagreeing ?
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Brexit has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that a road in London just exceeded its year's limit in 5 days, as Brexit hasn't happened yet. Your predictions for the future may well be right, but have no direct relevance to the point under discussion.
Brexit is about leaving the EU. The EU set the limit that was breached. No connection there at all.
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Brexit is about leaving the EU. The EU set the limit that was breached. No connection there at all.
So are you claiming that the limit was breached because we voted for Brexit ?
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No, I am saying that creating and enforcing clean air laws is one more thing that the EU does for us and that we are about to lose.
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Sorry, with what part of this are you disagreeing ?
I disagreed because while your post is true as far as it goes, it ignores the whole picture. The part you left out, the decision to ignore EU guidelines, is definitely a big part of the desired results of Brexit. Thus, the atmospheric pollution of London is a direct result of already acting as if Brexit existed in hard fact and a foretaste of the joyous benefits that will accrue to Her Majesty's subjects as a consequence of Brexit.
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No, I am saying that creating and enforcing clean air laws is one more thing that the EU does for us and that we are about to lose.
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I disagreed because while your post is true as far as it goes, it ignores the whole picture. The part you left out, the decision to ignore EU guidelines, is definitely a big part of the desired results of Brexit. Thus, the atmospheric pollution of London is a direct result of already acting as if Brexit existed in hard fact and a foretaste of the joyous benefits that will accrue to Her Majesty's subjects as a consequence of Brexit.
This is all supposition - you would appear to be alleging that this limit would not have been breached if the vote had gone 'Remain' - an assumption supported by nothing but your own prejudices
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Is London in compliance now with the EU guidelines and directives regarding pollution causing devices (in contrast with the pollution regs, with which it is obviously not in compliance). The EU did not leave it up to member states to figure out how to comply. For example, there are emission regs for vehicles, emission regs for power plants, emission regs for various industries.

Clearly, according to the Brexit "theoreticians," those regs have been suppressing British industry and London has equally not complied with at least some, if not all of them or London would not have so quickly busted the pollution limit.
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, all I'm saying is that Brexit isn't directly responsible for London breaching the clean-air limits so soon - which is what Tigger would appear to be claiming.
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, all I'm saying is that Brexit isn't directly responsible for London breaching the clean-air limits so soon - which is what Tigger would appear to be claiming.
Don't tell me what I am saying.

I am saying the laws that limit air pollution are EU laws that benefit people in the UK and leaving the EU will end that. I am also saying that our government fights like fuck to avoid doing anything about this itself.

Brexit is about leaving the EU therefore EVERYTHING that is connected to the EU is to do with brexit. Really fucking simple.

Besides your concern was all about sovereignty, so you should be happy that these EU laws will be ending, right ?
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Well target is maybe the wrong word the right word is limit and we breached it in 5 days. Woohoo go team UK. Brexit sure isn't slowing down our poisoning of ourselves"
As I said, Brexit had fuck-all to do with breaching that limit in 5 days, despite your obsessive attempt to link the two.

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