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Old 02-10-2008, 02:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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For the record, I fully realize that Nina had every right to reserve my SL avatar name in a new grid.

There is no mechanism for me to "own" the name of Beebo Brink. So although I was really upset that somone got to it before I did, I was reluctantly willing to pay the price -- literally -- if she chose to sell the name back to me at a rate I could afford. I would rather have paid for the name, or even lost it, than found out that someone was going to use it as their own in another grid.

I count myself as fortunate that Nina was only interested in torturing me for a short while, rather than in extortion or griefing with my SL identity. The outcome could have been much worse if someone else had gotten there first.
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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What? You don't seem to be understanding this at all.

Use the SECOND LIFE database. Check it, and BLOCK registration if it's a real avatar name, requiring an alternate method of registering with an inworld terminal.
Just to clarify WarKirby:

If you wanted to ensure that no one could sign up to openlife with an avatar name that already exists in SL, then yes, that is technically doable. And perhaps openlife will do that, who knows, and then problem solved. But personally, I wouldn't do that for three reasons:

1. There are millions of avatar names registered on SL that are not even being used. That discards a huge number of names that could have been used in openlife with out disgruntling anyone.

2. Although I wouldn't want people picking SL names motivated by malice or greed, I also don't think that just because a generic name has been taken in SL, no one can ever have that with another company. Taking Anshe Chung would fall into the first category, taking something like Digital Metaverse would fall into the second.

3. Openlife is based on SL tech. But I'm sure they will want to evolve as an entity in their own right, and having the SL database as part of your registration process is obviously counter to that aim.

The logistics problems that I mentioned were in separating the two categories in point 2., and removing those in 1.
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I count myself as fortunate that Nina was only interested in torturing me for a short while, rather than in extortion or griefing with my SL identity. The outcome could have been much worse if someone else had gotten there first.

Ahhh, the sweetness and light that is Nina. Whatever would we do without it?

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OK, now let me get this straight.

Thanks to open sourcing, there is this, and there will be other programs?

And in each one, anyone can choose my name?

And - do you run around on the SL grid with the same name?

Such that, there could be, in the future, several Cocoanut Koalas running around SL?

Or are the two always and will they always be separate?

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Old 02-10-2008, 02:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
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For the record, I fully realize that Nina had every right to reserve my SL avatar name in a new grid.

There is no mechanism for me to "own" the name of Beebo Brink. So although I was really upset that somone got to it before I did, I was reluctantly willing to pay the price -- literally -- if she chose to sell the name back to me at a rate I could afford. I would rather have paid for the name, or even lost it, than found out that someone was going to use it as their own in another grid.

I count myself as fortunate that Nina was only interested in torturing me for a short while, rather than in extortion or griefing with my SL identity. The outcome could have been much worse if someone else had gotten there first.
I totally agree Beebo, and I would have been seriously pissed off if my avatar names had been taken. Unless openlife want to base their registration process on the SL database, I'm not sure there is an easy solution.
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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OK, now let me get this straight.

Thanks to open sourcing, there is this, and there will be other programs?

And in each one, anyone can choose my name?

And - do you run around on the SL grid with the same name?

Such that, there could be, in the future, several Cocoanut Koalas running around SL?

Or are the two always and will they always be separate?

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If someone took your name on openlife, for example, they would only be able to use it on the openlife grid. You would still be the only Coco Koala on the SL grid.
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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So....ok, so prinţesă nină runs this grid and is the one who reserved my name (so thoughtful, i really appreciate it i figured it was some angry guy i dated or something).

So is this prinţesă nină's house?

this means im going to have to meticulously right down every single shape slider value so that i look like..me.

is it really prinţesă nină??????

seriously? prinţesă nină???

sigh...BKB, help me.

prinţesă nină - prin•ţe•să ni•nă, noun
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Nahhh, the Nina you all are talking about is not prinţesă nină...right?


sooooo confused...
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Old 02-10-2008, 02:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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If someone took your name on openlife, for example, they would only be able to use it on the openlife grid. You would still be the only Coco Koala on the SL grid.
OK, thanks!

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I'm going to look great on this grid - i own my skin texture, all my tattoo's, my linden hair texture, and i have all kinds of cool clothes textures.

looks like.... Briana will be prettier than nină.
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Old 02-10-2008, 03:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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looks like.... Briana will be prettier than nină.
This'll be good.
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I'm going to look great on this grid - i own my skin texture, all my tattoo's, my linden hair texture, and i have all kinds of cool clothes textures.
I don't have a decent tux yet, but I'm good to go on the skin and hair texture, plus my shape values (which I harvested long ago for backup). That, plus my name, should have a dapper Beebo all set to go in the OLG.
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Err, if you have mine, I would appreciate getting it back.
She doesn't have yours, I know this for a fact.
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Old 02-10-2008, 03:59 PM   #41 (permalink)
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A name I was waiting for appeared in the official SL list and the first name I wanted was immediately taken, but that avatar now has a blank profile months later. So I didn't feel too bad taking the name in OLG. If the SL person of that name were to contact me and want the name I'd give it to them. Maybe. I think I'd first make them show me they've actually used the name in SL. Heck, it might even be a Linden sitting on the name.

I was apparently not important enough to have my name poached. Sigh.
That's exactly the kind of situation where I think it's ok to take a name that has already been taken in SL - you arrived at it independently in trying to sign up for SL, and I see no reason under those circumstances why you can't be the first to arrive at it independently elsewhere.
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God, you guys, can't you stop reserving each other's names and just leave it up to the people who "own" the names?

Sheesh.

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cant reserve a linden.
i tried.
I read somewhere on the old OpenlifeGrid Website that you cannot use the last names Openlife or Linden. Sounds pretty sensible to me...
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Old 02-10-2008, 04:58 PM   #46 (permalink)
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ok i will release all the names.
i was really looking forward to logging in as aimee weber though
Did you get mine and release? or did I beat you to it? My name was available when I registered about 15 hours ago.
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As pissed as Nina was about her name being used on another board, I'm surprised she would do it even as a joke.
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Did you get mine and release? or did I beat you to it? My name was available when I registered about 15 hours ago.
Remember, there is your user name, and then once you are registered, you add avatar names to your account.
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As pissed as Nina was about her name being used on another board, I'm surprised she would do it even as a joke.
I do not think she did it maliciously. At least i hope not. I am rather glad my name was reserved. I actually went to the OLG site to reserve it myself so that an unnamed angry 'ex' would not do something so nasty to me (seeing how he is still bad mouthing me to people in SL 3 years later -MM-).
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I do not think she did it maliciously. At least i hope not. I am rather glad my name was reserved. I actually went to the OLG site to reserve it myself so that an unnamed angry 'ex' would not do something so nasty to me (seeing how he is still bad mouthing me to people in SL 3 years later -MM-).
I honestly don't think someone would have snapped up your names inside of 24 hours. *shrug* I don't see Nina's point in doing this, but whatever. I got my name, I'm happy.
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