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Old 02-11-2008, 12:33 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Well I guess this leaves everybody happy but me.

You know, all of you can find out your own information from now on.

There's little point in trying to be helpful if it just opens you to attack.
Quiplash, please continue to post your very helpful messages, i really had not paid attention to any of this stuff until your messages.

And wtf is there a veiled blogger threat im detecting against OLG?

This is why these community cliques of bloggers trying to make themselves relevant and determine who is who in SL - SUCK.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:38 PM   #127 (permalink)
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The main problem is there is a lot of misinformation going out right now, and confusion over what various things are, who is responsible for them, and what is happening. Hopefully more will be clarified soon. In the meantime, don't shoot the messenger but take all of this as very fluid. Things will become clearer in time.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:39 PM   #128 (permalink)
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Well I guess this leaves everybody happy but me.

You know, all of you can find out your own information from now on.

There's little point in trying to be helpful if it just opens you to attack.
That sucks.

Thanks for what you did post and attempt to answer to the best of your ability and knowledge Quip.

[Backspace is my friend. I relied heavily on my friend to avoid blasting someone to bits in this thread. ]
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:44 PM   #129 (permalink)
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The main problem is there is a lot of misinformation going out right now, and confusion over what various things are, who is responsible for them, and what is happening. Hopefully more will be clarified soon. In the meantime, don't shoot the messenger but take all of this as very fluid. Things will become clearer in time.
Every alpha I've ever been involved in is a clusterfuck. Anyone who expects anything different should go see a proctologist about having their head removed from their ass.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:48 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Every alpha I've ever been involved in is a clusterfuck. Anyone who expects anything different should go see a proctologist about having their head removed from their ass.
Likewise Betas


I still consider SL to be Beta technology, incidentally.
That's why i don't get pissed off at the tech fuck ups.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:53 PM   #131 (permalink)
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And wtf is there a veiled blogger threat im detecting against OLG?

This is why these community cliques of bloggers trying to make themselves relevant and determine who is who in SL - SUCK.
I'm almost bored enough with my own life today (2nd and 1st...lol) to go write a blog about useless, self-important, arrogant bloggers but there are just so many targets and I'm not quite that desperate for something to do.

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I still consider SL to be Beta technology, incidentally.
That's why i don't get pissed off at the tech fuck ups.
Agreed.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:58 PM   #132 (permalink)
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a) Prims v Meshes

I had always assumed that SL used prims to cut down on bandwidth use - sending a prim-type together with ten or so parameters is a lot less data than sending x,y,z coordinates for the hundreds of vertices you see in wire-frame for each prim.
Would say it's part that, but also the ability to have "shared building sessions" in world (mesh building is at least for the time being done entirely in external editors, not in the least because they're more powerful tools for it) Plus through the prim model they have much better control over amount of triangles an individual can place in world and thus the strain individual user puts on the system and everyone around.

The last aspect got pretty abused through the loophole that's AV attachmens of course, but that's another story and doesn't diminish (much) validity of basic concept behind their model.
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:01 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I still consider SL to be Beta technology, incidentally.
That's why i don't get pissed off at the tech fuck ups.


LL has brought a lot of ire down on themselves by trying to pass SL off as a finished product. It's not. I'm enjoying the ride because I know we're still a far way from the end result, and I'm fascinated by the journey. But for people who expected a product, it's a case of "Are we there yet?" echoing from the back seat on a regular basis.
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Every alpha I've ever been involved in is a clusterfuck. Anyone who expects anything different should go see a proctologist about having their head removed from their ass.
It's not just the usual alpha/new shiny thing level of confusion. There are a lot of misconceptions and misattributions right now about what is what, and that is contributing to this and making it worse, and adding to the frustration levels. It's not just about not being able to log in yet or things like that. Hopefully the interested parties will be able to clear it up soon. In the meantime, don't kill each other please, and no shooting of messengers.
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:06 PM   #135 (permalink)
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I just found out about deepgrid from this blogpost: Openlife - Second Life’s open source competitor : The Metaverse Journal - Australia’s Virtual World News Service

It's now clear to me that Adam was talking about something completely different than what I was talking about. When I jumped into (or, as Moo put it, hijacked) the original thread I assumed we were talking about the same thing.

Frankly I think Moo owes me an apology but I know I'm not going to get one so I'm moving on.

By the way, Adam: You never did get back to me when you were asking for volunteers to test out your system, and I said yes. This was during the time that Second Citizen was shutting down, so I expect that my request got lost in the shuffle.

It would have been better if you had kept your mouth shut rather than send out a teaser like the one you did. All you did was allow me to make a fool of myself. Thanks a lot.
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:18 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Quip, I thought the way Moo acted here was uncalled for.

Then I thought your response was equally as uncalled for.

Then you followed it up with this, and you've made your own bed.
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:21 PM   #139 (permalink)
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By the way, Adam: You never did get back to me when you were asking for volunteers to test out your system, and I said yes. This was during the time that Second Citizen was shutting down, so I expect that my request got lost in the shuffle.
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Old 02-11-2008, 01:23 PM   #140 (permalink)
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(the good news is, it would appear that if someone takes your avatar name, and then deletes it from their account, you will still be able to claim it for youself. This is nice feature that SL should have implemented. I have lost at least one great SL avatar name, only because I made an error while registering it, then found that "someone else" (i.e. me) had already claimed it and therefore I couldn't claim it fuck SL dammit it all to hell... Giggly Wrigglesworth would have been *SUCH* a great name)
I know, and it is such a crime!

(And it's why my Strawbearry Shortbread has two r's in the first name - remember when it would just go down, or quit for some reason, I forget what, and you lost that name forever?)

So, two questions:

1. I've made my name, and did it in that toolbox, too, once I figured that out. (Printessa didn't consider me important enough to swipe mine!)

But there is no way to actually connect to this, right?

And when you do, you have to download something first?

2. Building - this business about meshes. Does that mean that building will not be the same as in SL? That you have to have some sort of outside program to do it?

Does this affect building houses?

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3. I thought this WAS Adam's project? That's half the reason I signed up for it! Isn't he involved somehow?

Edit to ad: And I wasn't thinking that based on something Quiplash said; I was thinking it due to I thought Adam said so, and I believe lots of people have said so. In fact, I just got done telling a friend last night it was Adam's deal.
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Quiplash,

You did not make a fool of yourself, and Adam's intentions were not to upset anyone, he was just sharing what he could. You also are not the problem here, nor is Adam. It is the information leakage that is inaccurate and misplaced. You were just being kind and sharing what had already been released, and can't be faulted for that. This whole thing has turned into an unfortunate clusterfuck

There is a lot of frustration going around at this point - please, let's not go at each other or reduce things to personal attacks. This has been wildly confusing for everyone.

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P.S. Lookie, I'm almost CERTAIN Adam was involved in some project like this, and I thought this one was it, and that's why I joined it.

Tell me, why should I bother joining this if it isn't Adam's deal?

(That is a serious question.)

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i spelled it 'coconut'
hehe now I don't feel so left out!

Keep it, then. That will keep someone else from taking it to be an imposter.

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whats so great about adam?
as to why, i suppose because it looks to be the more advanced of the 'alternate' grids.
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