Briar Bing

This is my feeling and hope as well.

Which is why I am not ready to throw the baby out, quite yet.

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Quiplash

Ooh, you really do hate him, don't you? Unfortunately, there's not much that can be done about people who run off with the code at various stages and do their own thing.

(I had, in an initial burst of enthusiasm, bought 4 sims as a "Pioneer", only to downsize almost immediately when I realized I was not the builder type ;-) I'm more like hte accessorizer type)

Lecktor Hannibal

Sakai is certainly NOT promoting Openlife as a SL replacement. I understand your reservations with him Joshua but this is not true.

Joshua Nightshade

Lecktor, I think you're just too close to be objective about this. I read what he writes on his site and blog and forum, I've heard the wild things he's said to other people. It's not reservations I have, but grave concerns.

Lecktor Hannibal

I have concerns as well Joshua, but I still think you're being too sweeping in your pronouncements on him. We'll just have to disagree in degrees on this matter.

FlipperPA Peregrine

They're already out there, just private. I set one up for my previous company for internal use only - corporate training. I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Being able to run them off our own servers and be our own gate keepers was a big plus for us, we didn't need an economy, and SecondInventory made it cake to move our content over.

Regards,

-Flip

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Ordinal Malaprop

In the meanwhile people are posting things like Homesteaders - $50 a region

Joshua Nightshade

So?

Evo Mubble

yes, and the claims of being Beta even tho opensim says alpha is rediculous. Sakai stated he called it beta because nobody knows what Alpha means... roflmfao

Evo Mubble

I guess thats why Sakai tied to get a connection to SL fo inteoperability but LL said no.

Lecktor Hannibal

How is this promoting as a SL replacement? I fail to see your point.

Vertigo Paris

Oy vey.l

Grow up.

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Macphisto Angelus

Seems ...... pulled his post.

No worries, Verti.. I saw it too.

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Vertigo Paris

Oh good, now I don't look like I was ranting at no one.

Macphisto Angelus

I just gotta offer you kudos. I think he may have taken the advice.

You may have changed a life today.

Vertigo Paris

Well, shit.

armozel

This sort of thing makes me wonder why no one has attempted to a real 'DRM' or at least a digital signature system for OpenSim. I'm sure many of the FOSS boys would have my head for considering the idea. But I think to keep amateur content developers, as well as professional content developers, in the SL-grid concept there has to be a way for them to control the access to that content. Whether it's be sim-locking or grid-locking or even user-locking. Such features are going to be in demand, if they're not already, in the future. The other side of such a feature is a means for simulator/grid operators to keep invasive content (malicious scripts and such) from running amok. So, I also see it as a security feature that is desperately needed. That's just my two cents on it.

Also, it sucks that LCO's owners have to be this shitty, even though I think IP laws are shitty too. Killing the goose that lays a golden egg is a bad move and it shows a level of immaturity that is unbecoming of anyone trying to setup a business.

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Summer

We are going to need an update on what is happening on this issue, that we don't care about.

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Joshua Nightshade

Nothing prevents someone who wants DRM from creating a plugin for it on their own.

Opensim's devs have little to no intention, as is my understanding, of creating one themselves. They make DRM, whose? What if some group doesn't want to use it their way and wants something different? Then comes the inevitable cat and mouse that Opensim's devs would need to go through, constantly fighting to update something that gets cracked in minutes, when realistically no such provision protects content whatsoever at all anyway. The biggest failure LL has done is failing to stress this, and instead they have set up a system where people believe that assets are anything more than naked jewels with no protection waiting to be pilfered.

If someone wants to utilize DRM in their sim or grid, there's nothing in Opensim that will prevent them from doing so. But the onus is on them, then, to develop it (and undoubtedly people will do this), maintain it against the inevitable hacking and successful breaking, instead of asking the devs to add to their considerable workload by supporting this.

I'd rather they used their time to improve Opensim personally.

Joshua Nightshade

What did I miss? I thought you were talking to Lecktor. o_0

Macphisto Angelus

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Joshua Nightshade

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Envoy Costagravas

Information request: is that actually you in the picture (as well as your new avatar) or just some unknown person?

Thanks in advance for getting back to me promptly.

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Summer

My other avatar is the real me, I thought I'd dress up.

SOOOOO did Asri, LilyBeth, and that other girl I forget her name already, oh for goodness sake what was the problem.

SIMONE was getting upset about being locked out.

The girl who owns the grid published Simone's billing stuff and a chat log.

A lawyer showed up.

Prok blogged about some of this.

SO, what's the latest?

Did that girl I can't remember her name get her money from Simone?

Did that girl offer an apology for posting private information?

Did Simone ever say anything for herself?

Has there been more write ups?

We were all really upset about something.

Also, Why does Legend City and Xumeo have different names if it's the same company?

Envoy Costagravas

You call that prompt? You are now firmly (or furmly) in my mind as Hunter S. Bunny.