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Old 07-24-2018, 10:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 07-24-2018, 10:55 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:25 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Well that was pointless.
Not completely. He did prove my point that he was only here to troll.
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Old 07-24-2018, 11:27 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Great, now we all look like we're talking to ourselves......
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Not completely. He did prove my point that he was only here to troll.
*shruging ponie pic I don't have on hand *

Well we can all agree it was annoying, so we got that going for us!
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:13 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Great, now we all look like we're talking to ourselves......
True, on the other hand, the posts that were quoted are still in quotes so... besides, we know the truth and that is all that matters.
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Old 07-24-2018, 12:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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*shruging ponie pic I don't have on hand *

Well we can all agree it was annoying, so we got that going for us!
Oh alright. I'll do it for you.

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Old 07-24-2018, 03:03 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Drags out log in - because. IW might survive but as ser Han says ( and sorry to mis_q ) as cb. so what. IW is.was and may be the solid alt. Plus I have my own as we move.
I was last in x years back and also Yesterday. the support is ... well.
Well .. as an SLer and runner of own we go on. The response here from those who post 'I have not logged on in x years' was - expected. Have a nice day
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She is also handing out OAR files to any region owner, with all objects included for the resident to take to another grid. She has declined creators requests and concerns about their IP being removed from the grid without their consent.
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Wow! Everyone has been amazing! So here's where things stand. I asked in discord this afternoon, once we hit our goal, then what? What about next month? After much agonizing and upset, it was suggested by the residents that we use these monies to start a new grid. We'll be able to move OARS, profiles, groups. Inventory can only be taken that can be put in a box to be OAR filed. We'll be opening the sandbox for people who have no region to place their items and can get them back.

If you are NOT ok with this, I urge you to please withdraw your support on the page. I do not want to take anyone's money who is not ok with this! Otherwise, please start boxing your items up on your region or ask a friend or tomorrow I'll be opening the Sandboxes up for people!

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Glad you know so much about how InWorldz was founded.. though, I will say there were only 6 of us... Please go on making things up though, it's amusing.
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I am older now, Legion.. I forget who else was involved. A blowhard Elf was a big part of it though, I remember that well. lol

I spoke with Elenia a week or so ago. After all the stuff that happened in the begining, it was good to have a one on one with her. I even made an account and tried IWZ for the first time ever. She told me to have fun. It is a unique place. Greeters and everthing waiting when I logged in. I move in the hypergrid world now. I am not Mac anymore... he died and like a zombie appears once a year or so since all that opensim infighting stuff. I am happy with Opensim.. but creidit where it is due.. InWorldz went against all odds and did what they said they would. Kudos to that. I hope they make it.

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Old 07-24-2018, 07:28 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Wow! Everyone has been amazing! So here's where things stand. I asked in discord
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Old 07-24-2018, 07:42 PM   #40 (permalink)
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A blowhard Elf was a big part of it though, I remember that well. lol



...so yeah, if it's the same elf (how many blowhard elves can there be? ) that's who bailed last fall.
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I'd have to login to inworldz to get it and that's not on my list of things to do tonight lol. but that's what she posted on the gofundme
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I'd have to login to inworldz to get it and that's not on my list of things to do tonight lol. but that's what she posted on the gofundme
Actually I was confused. I thought you meant the update was from the discord room. It's not, it's from the gofundme page. Gotcha.
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How does starting a new grid fix things? Isn't the core issue funding servers?
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Discord is here: https://discord.gg/svjBh5V <----posted by Beth on the zendesk thread. I hope that helps.
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After I saw that I kind of had the same question. I don't understand anything about this situation.
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...so yeah, if it's the same elf (how many blowhard elves can there be? ) that's who bailed last fall.
If that picture summoned said pointy eared gnome to give us a three page analysis via over worded paragraph's and run on sentences...

I'm holding you completely responsible for anything that follows. Including but not limited to major face palming, head shaking, eye rolling, side tilts and up coming commentary that will make a person laugh until they ache.

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major face palming, head shaking, eye rolling, side tilts and up coming commentary that will make a person laugh until they ache.
Precisely the thing we've grown to expect from Inworldz threads.


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edited to delete this one because for some reason, it did a double post in stead of an edit when I tried to remove stuffs I wrote emotionally versus logically.

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two important updates for those who have brought and/or allowed things to go in to IW or built things in IW.

https://inworldz.zendesk.com/hc/en-u...s/360000577714

https://inworldz.zendesk.com/hc/en-u...s/360000577834

read the whole second link but here's the blurb:

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Jim T wrote: Now, I don't know where these OAR files might get used. We haven't tested loading them on an OpenSim region, just Halcyon servers. It's difficult to test all the combinations of things. It's a "best effort" in short time. There are lots of possibilities of where to go from here, everything from:

revive IW later (with a clean slate of servers), to
establishing a smaller new grid, to
creating an only place you can log in and access these OAR files already rezzed up in a region, to
just telling everyone to take them to a SimOnAStick installation or an OpenSim grid. All of these are problematic in some way.
I prefer something in the first three, but there are all kinds of legal, financial and logistic problems with them. I keep looking at the third case as a possibility, at least for me personally, as a favor to everyone who has been a part of InWorldz (and as the person who implemented the permissions system here!)

The last case above will lead to fairly significant conflicts from those who feel this is a violation of IP. As the person who has been screaming for tight permissions for years, I'm still going to say it's not, until someone actually uploads something they don't have a license for. Even then, as I understand it (I'm no lawyer) there have been court rulings in some jurisdictions that have asserted that a license is somewhat portable under some conditions, especially where the current software fails to allow the license to continue, and closing of a grid like this would seem to be such a case. At any rate, the question is whether or not Elenia can stomach just telling everyone they are losing everything, or if she says we must try to make user's content available to them where possible. There is no choice at all unless we save these OAR files, so that is the first step and independent of how the content gets used later. Let's start there.

Looks like IW might end up being the test subject of promising secure permissions to renege on it due to closure and renewing under a new server, etc at a later date (and possibly a new name or an updated name?). Not sure how well that will pan out for them. As a past creator there, I'm not even sure what that will entail; textures for sculpts, mesh, animations, actual builds? I'm not techy enough.

But considering I paid for and bought many sculpt maps to bring there WITH original owner permission.....as well as created some of my own (albeit possibly crappy) animations. I'm not sure how this all works but I certainly hope that anything they do keeps permissions and original creators names on the items. Otherwise, this could end not so well. I'm guessing if IW opens under the same name just on a different server and these things are rezzed there with original stuffs intact...no biggie. Might not even be a big deal with they add' IW Reboot" or something to the name. Same store, different location, type of deal.

A whole new name and/or allowing people to take this stuff to their own computer with no lockstep for original permissions/creators might set them up to be a test subject in the US court of Law. (besides being a really shitty move that would completely kill their reputation with creators so if they are ever found to be working on any other grid....it could cause problems for that grid)

At this point, it's all speculation but as I'm interested in all this legal crap, I plan on following it.
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I'm guessing if IW opens under the same name just on a different server and these things are rezzed there with original stuffs intact...no biggie. Might not even be a big deal with they add' IW Reboot" or something to the name. Same store, different location, type of deal.

A whole new name and/or allowing people to take this stuff to their own computer with no lockstep for original permissions/creators might set them up to be a test subject in the US court of Law. (besides being a really shitty move that would completely kill their reputation with creators so if they are ever found to be working on any other grid....it could cause problems for that grid)
That seems to be the bottom line, yeah.
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