Edav Nomad

All this talk about IMVU got me thinking about the guy who started it also helped start There. So I tried to get in using the avatar I had in There. I had to reset my password since I couldn't remember it and when I tried to log in using the new password it wouldn't let me. So I decied to create a new avatar so I can check it out since I hadn't been in it since sometime around 2004.

I downloaded the client and I forgot how much bigger it is than the SL client, its 94.2MB. I logged into There and it looks exactly the same as it did when I was last there, until I got to the water and found out that its not flat anymore. It does have waves but no matter how far I went out into it it never got more than to the avatar's butt. I took a couple of snapshots and they look like crap. I'll post them at the bottom.

After about 30 minutes being in There I realized that it still sucks and so I promptly logged off and deleted it from my computer. Even with its problems SL is so much better than There.

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Wildefire Walcott

There is amazingly lame. Their sister company, Forterra, is successfully using the same technology to build private grids for corporate and non-profit interests- but as a public cyberscape, There is far too limited, both technically and politically, to be compelling for any serious builder, when SL offers so much more freedom, for free.

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ZATZAi

Ah, what a story There has, but I'm sure there are a few who could tell it better than I.

I enjoyed There though, I played it before I came to SL, some Therian converts actually dragged me over. I remember they had some great physics for their vehicles, I was particularly fond of the hoverboards and the flying boats were fun too. I realy liked how you could fly from one place to another as the ocean was traversable (There is a planet not regions), and popular areas have more servers behind them so they can run when there are more people.

A while ago There finally started getting into real estate, letting people buy and manage large tracts of land that others could rent/live on. It still looks like a cartoon, though the military version (Which you cant use) looks a lot better. I did prefer how they handled chat, with the cute bubbles, it just doesn't work in Second Life.

They also had voice a lot longer than Second Life did, but they did it right. When avatars in There talk, your lips in There move, I wish Second Life did that. They also had sports, you could set up racecs courses and there were leaderboards and everything. There were even resident created games, I participated in a few wiener dog races myself, and oh what fun it was to have a virtual pet. And we now, finally, have an ingame browser in Second Life, There had that forever and it really helps...

There is different, very different. It even has a whole different social feel to it.

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Kalia Meiklejohn

I couldn't put up with those graphics....

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Dnate Mars

Yep, yep, and yep. There really had things going for it, until it was decided that they wanted to focus on the military and private corps. When they forced Tom, the CEO, out I knew it was the end. I loved the hoverboards and buggies. Spades was always fun to play, even if they promised us other card games. They used some sort of server on demand type deal so that when there were a lot of people in an area, more servers were used to handle the load. You could have over 100 people at a single event with few problems.

But they lacked the building and creating that SL had. That is why I had to jump ship in 2004. I don't think I have logged in at least 6 months, I wonder if my account is still there.

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Edav Nomad

There is free, but you are limited in some of the things you can do unless you pay $9.95 a month.

There probably does still have better vehicle and avatar movements than SL does, but I haven't tried any vehicles since Havok 4 came out for SL.

Wildefire Walcott

I actually have a premium There account with a lot of money in the bank, but I haven't logged in for a year. The vehicles are fun, but my main problem with There is that all the people I've met there have been, well, dumbasses. There seems to be a lot more kids and super-casual players there than in SL.

Oh, also... their map SUCKS. The fact that you need fucking Internet Explorer to run it SUCKS.

Ten

Ewwwwwwww... IE?

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Dnate Mars

Yes, that PC/IE only thing is one reason I have given it up mostly. But I do still have a few friends that use it, so once and a while I still do log in.

Actually, most of them are now in SL....

ZATZAi

What's funny is that's what people have been saying SL needs to do. Go browser based. There ran on IE and the UI was flash based, so people have been customizing their There clients like we wish we could our SL client for ages because it's easier by comparison.

I think I have a couple tens of thousands of Therebucks left in my account as well. I haven't logged in for a while but I still get ThereMail, so my account still exists. Since they went free, I don't think they close accounts anymore. Every once in a great while I'll log in, break out one of my rare hoverboards and fly around. I didn't really have the problem with maturity that Wildefire mentioned, actually I'd say it was the opposite, whereas the maturity problem was in Second Life. But There had a very different atmosphere...

I found it to be friendly and inviting. You could mosey around, walk up to a crowd and just jump into the conversation, it was very... what's the word? Neighborly? You do that in Second Life and people just stare at you, if they don't orbit you.

It's definately more casual in There than it is in Second Life. People treat tend to treat There like an extension of the internet, or a game, not like a... second life (Pun intended). Atleast that was my personal experience for the time I was there, I still missing running the BABS route.

Sarah Nerd

I went from sims to there to SL. I haven't logged into there since I started SL and that was almost 3 years ago. I have no desire to go back to the 13 year old ridden game. Some people are nice but for the most part it's teenage kids acting like obnoxious teenage kids.

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Ewan Took

After the freedom of the camera and contols in SL, you feel boxed in and 'trapped' in There. Plus it was boring being followed by a group of kids chanting 'gay' and 'AIDS' in voice after they saw what groups I was in.

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