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Ok so I guess it's about time I sorted out what is what here. So here is my attempt that others might find useful.

Software:

Opensimulator (aka OpenSim) is the open-source sim software itself currently at version 0.5 that can run standalone on your PC or connect to a larger grid on the internet. It has everything needed to connect a SL compatible client to it.

realXtend have developed a brand new viewer (REX) that works with the OpenSim server software, and offers incredible new capabilities - the ones people are freaking out over (HTML on a prim, mesh models, real time shadows, etc). When you use the realXtend viewer to build, there is a new tab that has properties you can set to activate the features (the same way, for example, you turn on flexiprims). For example, to use a mesh, you create a single prim, and check a box to turn on the REX properties. One of those properties is the name of the mesh to use from your inventory. Another properties is if the object casts shadows, etc. Another example is you can right click on a texture in your inventory and set it's media URL, and then that texture when used on a prim will display external content - web sites, external images, etc.

They have also contributed code to the OpenSim project to support the features in the new viewer on the server side, and are actively involved in development of new features. The RealXtend viewer will work with any grid using the latest OpenSim software, and dramatically changes what is possible. It will also work with SL, but the new features are not supported in the SL grid.
(Thanks Cristiano for this addition)

Grids:

OSGrid
Users: 3,197
Regions: 372
Rent Managed Regions: No, However see thread http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/oth...tml#post289506 ($US15+/month)
Connect Your Region: Yes (no fee)
Economy: Unknown
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No TOS found.
osgrid.org * View topic - OSGrid Homesteading
"OSGrid is an organization that provides potential region operators a place to hitch up their regions alongside other regions (even if not necesarily geographically adjacent). For our purposes, this means that the regions on a grid share at minimum User Authentication and Region Authentication services, and potentially Asset and Inventory backend services as well, depending on how the region server in question is configured."

OpenLifeGrid
Avatars: 25,084
Regions: 220
Rent Managed Regions: Yes ($US30 Set Up, $US59 per month)
Connect Your Region: No
Economy: No currency yet
Notes:
Foundation Residents / Virtual Land
"Activities Considered unlawful or illegal including harmful, abusive or 'griefing' to the community are not tolerated and may result in your account being suspended and/or cancelled without a refund. This includes Sexually Explicit and Explicit Violent content, public display and content development must be mindful of this environment supportive of up to only an M 15 environment, and not exceed this."

DeepGrid
Users: 2,055
Regions: 752
Rent Managed Regions: Yes ($unknown)
Connect Your Region: Yes (no fee)
Economy: Unknown
Notes:
DeepGrid - OpenSimulator Grid
"By making Content available, you represent and warrant that: [....] the Content is not obscene, libelous or defamatory, hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable, and does not violate the privacy or publicity rights of any third party [....]"
Recognises IP rights and DMCA

Central Grid
Avatars: 1938
Regions: 321
Rent Managed Regions: Yes ($US94/month for 1-6 regions, larger options also)
Connect Your Region: Yes ($US395+ fee, $US30 per month)
Economy: Unknown
Notes: See thread Centralgrid.com: any info ?
"We can allow other smaller grids to connect to The Central Grid and utilize our central servers that handle things like assets, inventory, user management and other needed grid resources. If a grid operator was to deploy a server with any amount of regions, they could easily connect the regions to our central grid platform."
(Thanks Quiplash)


Also see: OpenSim:Grids - OpenSim

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Economy: Unknown
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The website for OSGrid will not load for me - still, i have been trying to go there for 5 or so days now.

Anyone else having a problem?
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The website for OSGrid will not load for me - still, i have been trying to go there for 5 or so days now.

Anyone else having a problem?
I signed up days ago and it still loads very quickly here.

Maybe a traceroute will reveal a network problem?

tracert osgrid.org
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I signed up days ago and it still loads very quickly here.

Maybe a traceroute will reveal a network problem?

tracert osgrid.org
LOLWTFBBQ!

Ok, I am going to google this traceroute stuff, but something tells me i will not understand what i find.
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Oh, I just noticed it's hosted at an ESC subdomain.

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 10 ms 8 ms [censored].bethere.co.uk [censored]
3 * * 11 ms 10.1.2.5
4 11 ms 11 ms * 195.50.112.237
5 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms ae-32-52.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.62]
6 87 ms 90 ms 90 ms ae-4.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.132.109]
7 93 ms 90 ms 90 ms ae-71-71.csw2.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.70]

8 80 ms 81 ms 80 ms ae-27-79.car1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.68.16.71]
9 81 ms 81 ms 81 ms ghostface.electricsheepcompany.com [4.71.184.27]
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LOLWTFBBQ!

Ok, I am going to google this traceroute stuff, but something tells me i will not understand what i find.
LOL. Assuming you're running Windows, just click Start, Run, type cmd, click OK. Then type `tracert osgrid.org` <press enter> (no backticks) in the command prompt window.
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there are traceroute programs around that present the info to you in a more 'user friendly' context.
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LOLWTFBBQ!

Ok, I am going to google this traceroute stuff, but something tells me i will not understand what i find.
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LOL. Assuming you're running Windows, just click Start, Run, type cmd, click OK. Then type `tracert osgrid.org` <press enter> (no backticks) in the command prompt window.
Ok its running now...very slowly, and the results do not look good.

Will post them when its done. Yes its still running - only 5 hops out of 30? Its going to be a while.
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Tracing route to osgrid.org [4.71.184.27]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 9 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * *
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It is still going and everything is "Request timed out"

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192.168.1.1 is a local addy, likely the router.
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Wow. That looks like a computer or router issue. Is it possible osgrid.org is being blocked by a firewall... or parental filter?
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192.168.1.1 is a local addy, likely the router.
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192.168.1.1 is a local addy, likely the router.
why would my router be stopping it?

i have never had this problem before with anything else.
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Wow. That looks like a computer or router issue. Is it possible osgrid.org is being blocked by a firewall... or parental filter?
Noo......i do not have the windows firewall turned on...let me check....OH it is on. I will turn it off and try.
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Nope.

Still no Joy @ OSgrid.com.
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not sure.
perhaps you could check your router config and see if there is something there that might be prohibiting that traffic, maybe create an exception, or check firewall rules. maybe change the port the client is trying to connect on?
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why would my router be stopping it?

i have never had this problem before with anything else.
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If you have any other security software installed, like Norton or ZoneAlarm, etc., it might be worth temporarily disabling that too.
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What happens if you do a `tracert lindenlab.com` ?

You sure other websites are loading fine right now?
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Still no Joy @ OSgrid.com.
osgrid dot org!
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What happens if you do a `tracert lindenlab.com` ?

You sure other websites are loading fine right now?
It gives me back a bunch of junk- but they are all address returns with times. I am also in SL right now. And surfing some other websites too.
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have you tried accessing it on a proxy?
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It gives me back a bunch of junk- but they are all address returns with times. I am also in SL right now. And surfing some other websites too.
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Its possible the tracert packets are being filtered out too and so that might be misleading. Briana are you at work or at home?
Home..and sick

and tired

been up since 3am.

I'm not sure about this router side of things. The most i have done with my router is the setup instructions and turning on the security so my neighbor can't surf my internet like i can surf hers when mine is down.
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have you tried accessing it on a proxy?

Hey . I googled up proxy and went to proxy.org and i was able to get to OSGrid from there.

So does that mean its my hardware or could it be my ISP?
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Hey . I googled up proxy and went to proxy.org and i was able to get to OSGrid from there.

So does that mean its my hardware or could it be my ISP?
I would send a message to your ISP and see what they say. Sometimes they stuff things up but its rare.
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Actually Briana try this on the command line:

nslookup osgrid.org
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