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Old 02-17-2008, 07:40 AM   #26 (permalink)
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The servers DNS records all seem in order.

MBP:~ sobri$ host osgrid.org
osgrid.org has address 4.71.184.27
osgrid.org mail is handled by 10 mail.osgrid.org.
MBP:~ sobri$ host 4.71.184.27
27.184.71.4.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ghostface.electricsheepcompany.com.

It looks like they are using aliases on the apache server, as if you connect directly to ghostface it refuses connection, to the IP you get a folder listing and some administrative/statistics stuff, and to osgrid.org you get their front page.

Briana, if you try going Here do you get an 'oops!' page? Or just endless failure to connect?

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Actually Briana try this on the command line:

nslookup osgrid.org
it said:

Server: 74-134-1-132.dhcp.insightbb.com
Address: 74.134.1.132

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Name: osgrid.org
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Briana, if you try typing in Index of / do you get an 'oops!' page? Or just endless failure to connect?
I get:

The connection has timed out

The server at 4.71.184.27 is taking too long to respond.

* The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few
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* If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network
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* If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure
that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.
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Have you tried running 'ipconfig /flushdns' from the command prompt?

It looks like there's a DNS server somewhere down the line from you that is resolving to the wrong place.

Might just be a matter of waiting a few hours for things to update, or it may be an accidental misconfiguration that needs to be brought to attention.

If you really want to get through, you could try changing your network settings to use an alternate DNS. I would recommend OpenDNS | Providing A Safer And Faster Internet they provide excellent instructions on reconfiguring to use their servers. It's a bit of an extreme step to take for one website, though

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Oh wait, ignore that. I'm not used to the output of NSLOOKUP. It looks like it is resolving to the right address.

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Ok your ISP and therefore your computer knows where osgrid.org is but something between osgrid.org and your PC (internet routing, ISP, router, firewall) is blocking its pages getting back to you. Try Sobriquet's link above called 'here'. Do you know someone else who uses your ISP? Can they get to the site? If not this leaves you with emailing your ISP and seeing what they have to say.

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Try 'nslookup 4.71.184.27'?

There still could be an unlikely problem with reverse-resolution. But chances are better Psyke is correct and the fault is with misconfiguration at your ISP. Something unknown somewhere seems to be filtering your connection to that IP. Maybe an aggressive security appliance at your ISP doesn't like a server in the same IP range ESC uses or something.

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Maybe she got geek overload and went out looking at sky and sun and flowers. Or maybe her head exploded

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Hey . I googled up proxy and went to proxy.org and i was able to get to OSGrid from there.

So does that mean its my hardware or could it be my ISP?
I've got a feeling it's a routing issue with your ISP. I was a bit suspicious that some software on your computer was blocking access to that IP address because the tracert doesn't even resolve the second hop... but if you're ruled that out....

Rebooting the router if it's been switched on for days couldn't hurt.

Edit: Oh look. A whole page of more helpful replies. That'll teach me not to refresh the thread page when I return to the computer after lunch.
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I'm awake now!

And jeeze is my kitchen dirty from the weekend.


Ok i did the nslookup 4.71.184.27 and it returned some stuff on Electricsheep.

I will turn off my router.

It has been on since about early January.
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YAY!

Unplugging my router worked!

I'm so glad i thought of that!

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Hmm I wonder what the router was doing

Oh and u can stop derailing my thread now
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Hmm I wonder what the router was doing

Oh and u can stop derailing my thread now
I was just going to say that everyone can get back to the point of the thread now that i was stepping off the stage.



BUT ON ANOTHER NOTE.

I went to the OSGrid.org forums and they only allow for 6k max. forum avatars!

Discuss.

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Unplugging my router worked!

I'm so glad i thought of that!

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I would add one thing to your list that is a major piece of this, and probably the most exciting development besides OpenSim:

realXtend - they have developed a brand new viewer (REX) that works with the OpenSim server software, and offers incredible new capabilities - the ones people are freaking out over (HTML on a prim, mesh models, real time shadows, etc). When you use the realXtend viewer to build, there is a new tab that has properties you can set to activate the features (the same way, for example, you turn on flexiprims). For example, to use a mesh, you create a single prim, and check a box to turn on the REX properties. One of those properties is the name of the mesh to use from your inventory. Another property is if the object casts shadows, etc. Another example is you can right click on a texture in your inventory and set it's media URL, and then that texture when used on a prim will display external content - web sites, external images, etc.

They have also contributed code to the OpenSim project to support the features in the new viewer on the server side, and are actively involved in development of new features. The RealXtend viewer will work with any grid using the latest OpenSim software, and dramatically changes what is possible. It will also work with SL, but the new features are not supported in the SL grid.

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It gets a bit finicky with the 'Terraform Selected Area' packets from the latest WindLight client
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It gets a bit finicky with the 'Terraform Selected Area' packets from the latest WindLight client
Yeah, Rex havnt incorporated the proper terraforming patches into their version (one of these things that is going to be fixed by the merge)

That being said, if you copy a version of OpenSim.BasicTerrain.dll into your Rex directory (overwriting) it should work, and fix that.
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I'm having big problems terraforming in the simulator I installed on my own PC. The sim normally becomes completely unresponsive when I try to do it, but sometimes it does have an effect. Like thirty seconds after I try to raise the land, phallus mountain suddenly shoots up into the air, and I still have to relog.

Is that normal, or have I likely configured it incorrectly?
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Yeah, Rex havnt incorporated the proper terraforming patches into their version (one of these things that is going to be fixed by the merge)

That being said, if you copy a version of OpenSim.BasicTerrain.dll into your Rex directory (overwriting) it should work, and fix that.
I'm not running the REX server. But I did just realize I checked an old version out of the subversion repository. Whoops
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Hi everybody. I am find this sudden blossoming of open-source alternatives to SL very inspiring and exciting.

I have spent a large chunk of time recently on OpenlifeGrid (everyone seems to have agreed on OLG as an abbreviation, btw). I'd like to make it very clear that this is NOT Adam Zauis' project; Adam's project is DeepGrid, which is also based on OpenSim.

On Friday around midnight UTC, OpenlifeGrid's Foundation Resident event started. This is a pioneer settler land sale, and as of February 16th, approximately half of the original sims have been either sold or set aside as community land. Here's a map:



Green marks sold sims, while yellow marks community lands. Keeping in mind that OLG is alpha (i.e. pre-beta) software and therefore lacks some basic functionality, sims cost US$90 each (US$15 as a set-up fee, and US$75 for the first month's rent).

You create one account on the OLG website, and then attach to that account one or more avatars using the Avatar Toolbox. You can choose your own first name and LAST NAME for each avatar (none of this SL pick-it-from-a-list nonsense). Each avatar has a starting sim which is also set using the Avatar Toolbox. Suggested starting sims for newbies are the 'Welcome to OpenlifeGrid' sim or the next-door 'Community Sim'. There are also a number of community-themed sims such as 'Dracule', a Goth sim, and 'Arnhem', a French-language sim.

Oh, and RealXtend is supported, and all the goodies that entails; some people are using the ReX viewer already on OLG.

More information on the project, including a discussion forum and an active chatroom, are available at Openlife Grid > Home.

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I understand that DeepGrid also allows for hosted sims, i.e. you don't have to set up a sim on your local PC. I am eager to try this out for myself and see how it compares with OpenlifeGrid.

However, the two times I tried to create a hosted sim using the Deepgrid website, I got a series of PHP code errors, so I don't even know if the sims I wanted were created or not.

Adam, is the hosted-sim set-up actually working at the moment? I had sent you an IM on here earlier, is there another way you prefer me to report DeepGrid bugs to you? Thank you.

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For the sake of completeness, I repost here a comment I had made on an earlier thread about yet another OpenSim-based grid, called Central Grid.
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One that I predict is going to fall flat on its face is Central Grid at URL:
Central Grid Connecting Virtual Worlds - www.CentralGrid.com

You can check it out for yourself if you like. Apparently it was started by a disgruntled former SL banker. There's a full rate sheet available, and dozens and dozens of flat, featureless, empty sims. There's a half-built shopping centre, a half-built bank, and pretty much nothing else. No buyers.

I think we can safely put Central Grid on death watch status.
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