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Evo Mubble · 01-08-2009, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trout Recreant

OK. It's not real. But the gravity gun is the single greatest weapon EVAR.

US investigation into gravity weapons

Lucifer Baphomet · 01-08-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by io Kukulcan

Luc, didn't Saddam copy that design and build one of those too?

As far as I remember, he planned to, but I don't think it was built.

I do remember construction materials for it being intercepted and making the news

Cindy Claveau · 01-08-2009, 05:45 PM

First manmade UFO: The 1911 Vought Disc

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An early effort at disc-shaped design, the 'umbrella plane' of inventor Chance Vought

Whatever this design's merits may be, they lie more in the quantity of fabric and the quality of the joinery than in any sound application of aerodynamic principles.

The aircraft, as far as we know, went nowhere; but Vought himself went on to produce a famous line of aircraft in the U.S.A.

Hey. Ya gotta start somewhere, right? From "umbrella" craft to the F4U:

Cindy Claveau · 01-08-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by io Kukulcan

Luc, didn't Saddam copy that design and build one of those too?

Project Babylon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Project Babylon was a project allegedly commissioned by the Iraqi president Saddam Hussein during the Iran–Iraq War to build a series of superguns. The design was based on research from the 60s Project HARP led by the Canadian artillery expert Gerald Bull. Although the details are sketchy, it appears that there were four different devices in total included in the program.

The project was supposedly halted in 1990 after Gerald Bull was assassinated and parts of the superguns were allegedly seized in transit around Europe. However, during the 1991 Gulf War the UK Government announced that the parts it had seized were oil pipes and not parts for a gun, as Iraq had claimed throughout. The remaining components in Iraq were allegedly destroyed by the United Nations after the 1991 Gulf War.

Evo Mubble · 01-08-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

First manmade UFO: The 1911 Vought Disc

Hey. Ya gotta start somewhere, right? From "umbrella" craft to the F4U:

that must be the one that cashed in Roswell:

Lucifer Baphomet · 01-08-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer Baphomet

As far as I remember, he planned to, but I don't think it was built.

I do remember construction materials for it being intercepted and making the news

On furter investigation, I stand corrected..

"After the First Gulf War, the U.N. Special Commission received documents on July 18th, 1991 from Iraq which stated that Iraq had, indeed, constructed a 45-meter sub-size supergun prototype (nicknamed 'Baby Babylon') with a 350-mm bore, and had been designing and importing components to build a much larger (1000-mm bore) version known as 'Babylon'. U.N. teams located and destroyed components of the larger gun, the existing smaller gun, and stored propellant and manufacturing facilities for ammunition and propellant for both. Testimony before the commission from defectors indicated that the gun was too inaccurate to be used for conventional bombardment (the potential range of the Iraqi superguns was estimated to be around 1,000 km) and that the guns were intended for the delivery of WMD against Israel and American targets in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. They further indicated that the Iraqis were researching means of using the superguns to launch weapons designed to destroy or blind hostile spy satellites."

Bruise Shepherd · 01-08-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by io Kukulcan

Luc, didn't Saddam copy that design and build one of those too?

Gerald Bull

Inventor of the HARP System, tried to sell it to Iraq when every other government lost interest. Killed on his own doorstep by "unknown assassin" /me whispers Mossad

Evo Mubble · 01-08-2009, 05:55 PM

too late to remove the laugh Cindy.... i already saw it.

Evo Mubble · 01-08-2009, 05:58 PM

Shape-shifting robot squeezes onto military radar
This is one not even James Bond's handlers have created: A shape shifting robot. IRobot this year got a $3.3 million contract to build a shape-shifting, flexible robot for dangerous or hard to reach combat duties. The robot is part of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's (DARPA) Chemical Robots (ChemBots) program that seeks to build soft, flexible, mobile objects that can identify and maneuver through openings smaller than their static structural dimensions; reconstitute size, shape and features while delivering meaningful payloads or performing significant tasks, DARPA said.

Bruise Shepherd · 01-08-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evo Mubble

Shape-shifting robot squeezes onto military radar
This is one not even James Bond's handlers have created: A shape shifting robot. IRobot this year got a $3.3 million contract to build a shape-shifting, flexible robot for dangerous or hard to reach combat duties. The robot is part of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's (DARPA) Chemical Robots (ChemBots) program that seeks to build soft, flexible, mobile objects that can identify and maneuver through openings smaller than their static structural dimensions; reconstitute size, shape and features while delivering meaningful payloads or performing significant tasks, DARPA said.

That's pretty cool

Evo Mubble · 01-08-2009, 06:16 PM

HeeHee yeah im waiting for a homebrew one to show up

Rev Eponym · 01-08-2009, 06:36 PM

One of my all-time favorites, I don't see how the Steampunks have ignored this one:

The Zalinski and Sims-Dudley Dynamite Guns

Dynamite gun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both of these were early high-explosive artillery weapons. They operated by launching a payload of compressed nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin with a thrust of compressed air.

The Zalinksy gun was a naval artillery weapon, mounted on one specially-built craft, the USS Vesuvius, the US Navy's only "dynamite gun cruiser." The Sims-Dudley gun was a field artillery piece, using a smokeless powder cartridge to compress the gas for propulsion.

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Roosevelt and his Rough Riders used a Sims-Dudley gun during the siege of Santiago, with mixed results. The gun did work as intended, delivering high-explosive shells on target. Because of its relatively quiet pneumatic operation and smokeless powder charges, it did not betray its presence, and so was not targeted by the Spanish. But it was mechanically unreliable and not very accurate. On balance Roosevelt was not enthusiastic, but found it "more effective than the regular artillery."

Compulsion · 01-08-2009, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy Claveau

The project was supposedly halted in 1990 after Gerald Bull was assassinated and parts of the superguns were allegedly seized in transit around Europe. However, during the 1991 Gulf War the UK Government announced that the parts it had seized were oil pipes and not parts for a gun, as Iraq had claimed throughout. The remaining components in Iraq were allegedly destroyed by the United Nations after the 1991 Gulf War.

that wiki article isn't entirely accurate, the parts had indeed been made for the gun and where being exported under the guise of oil pipes when customs siezed them, they where considerably over engineered to be just oil pipes. I don't recall the government claiming them to be pipes, infact one of them is on display in the war museum, or was. not that it really matters but if people are going to write wiki articles they should get their facts right.

actually having just read the rest of the article it contradicts itself further down.

Compulsion · 01-08-2009, 06:41 PM

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 07:28 PM

Compulsion · 01-08-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlemagne Allen

well i was getting bored of making guns in SL but.... har har har

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 07:31 PM

RL laser sniper rifle-- project started in 70's by Pentagon and soon after discontinued...

Real-Life Laser Rifle: Army Goal | Danger Room from Wired.com

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Compulsion

well i was getting bored of making guns in SL but.... har har har

Make in SL, pwetty please?

Quantum Destiny · 01-08-2009, 07:32 PM

/me pokes head into crazies' thread.

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 07:37 PM

This one is pretty neat, actually...

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ype single action
Caliber 13x50mm rocket
Weight unloaded ~ 620 g
Length about 300 mm
Barrel length n/a
Magazine capacity 6 rounds
During the early sixties a small company MB Associates, founded by Robert Maynard and Arthur Bill, brought up a new weapon that was intended to revolutionize the world of small arms. Known as Gyrojet, it was sort of hand-held, multi-shot rocket launcher. It was advertised as a silent and capable to fire under-water, but in real life Gyrojet weapons turned out to be extremely unreliable and dramatically inaccurate; also, these weapons were rather ineffective at point-black distances, gaining its full power only at ranges of about 40-60 meters (yards). Few of the Gyrojet "pistols" made its way to the jungles of Vietnam in the hands of US military officers, who bought them at their own funds, but no successful reports ever appeared, and by late sixties the Gyrojet project was doomed.

Gyrojet weapon was one of the rare attempts to develop an entirely different weapon with some unique properties. This weapon tried to achieve several goals, including the low noise of firing and underwater fire capabilities, along with significant firepower and penetration. In doing so, it was far from any conventional firearms; in fact, it was a hand-held, multi-shot rocket launcher that fired "armor piercing" projectiles, made from steel and with pointed nose. Each projectile contained its own rocket engine and means for stabilization - either in the form of retractable fins or in the form of inclined jet nozzles which forced the missile to rotate, and thus provide gyroscopic effect for stabilization. Each rocket "motor" burned for about one tenth of a second; maximum velocity of about 380 meters per second (~1250 fps) was achieved at ranges about 20 meters from muzzle, while muzzle velocity was as low as 30 meters per second (~100 fps). Because of that slow acceleration the Gyrojet was almost useless a weapon at short ranges, within 5-7 meters. Another problem, inherent to this weapon, was poor reliability (even in ideal conditions this gun was to misfire about once in every 100 rounds; in actual life it did so much often than that). Add to this very poor accuracy because of insufficient stabilization of projectiles during early stages of trajectory, and you get more of curiosity and collectible piece rather than combat weapon. Probably the only plus of this weapon was that it indeed was more or less silent - when fired, it produced a short hiss, sort of a pierced tire sound, clearly different from any typical gunshot. However, it deserved its place in the history of small arms as one of the very rare attempts to made unconventional combat weapons that worked, even only to some extent.
Also, it must be noted that Gyrojet weapons were made not only as "pistols" but also as "carbines" as well, with longer "barrels" and shoulder stocks. Furthermore, there were two "marks" of Gyrojet. Major difference between Mark 1 and Mark 2 weapons was caliber of projectiles - original Mark 1 weapons used 13mm rockets, while later Mark 2 weapons used 12mm rockets to conform with US gun laws that set maximum legitimate caliber for civilian weapons as 0.5 inch (12.7mm).

The Gyrojet launchers were made in the form of a large pistol (or carbine). Frame was made from aluminium alloy, with perforated "barrel" which served as a launching guide for rockets. Up to six rockets were stored in integral, single stack magazine located in the grip; magazine was loaded from the top, through the slide-open cover. After loading, top rocket remained in the "barrel", resting against stationary firing pin, set into the rear of the barrel tube. Once trigger is pressed, it releases the hammer, which rotates back and hits the nose of a rocket, pushing it toward the stationary firing pin. Primer in the base of a rocket ignites the rocket charge, and sends the projectile accelerating down the "barrel" tube. This movement cocks the hammer and also frees the space for next rocket to rise from magazine into firing position. To provide necessary means for cocking the hammer for first shot, it has been fitted with side extension that projected outside of the frame from the curved cut on the left side of the frame. Manual safety was fitted at the left side of the grip, and magazine follower also had a projection that allowed to lower it manually for loading.

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg172-e.htm

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 07:47 PM

THIS!!!!!!!

Evo Mubble · 01-08-2009, 07:47 PM

US Army to Push X-Files Tech Development, Invade World of Warcraft

Jahar Aabye · 01-08-2009, 10:18 PM

The Pancor Jackhammer:

Pancor Jackhammer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fully automatic shotgun. Only three prototypes were ever made (although ironically it has had quite a life in SL).

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jahar Aabye

The Pancor Jackhammer:

Pancor Jackhammer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Fully automatic shotgun. Only three prototypes were ever made (although ironically it has had quite a life in SL).

Err... the AA-12 is another fully auto-shotgun that's actually getting a lot of attention.

YouTube - AA12 - Automatic 12 Gauge Shotgun (Future Weapons)

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This second generation design languished for almost two decades, but recently it has been picked up by Military Police System Co (Tennessee, USA) that offers the slightly modified AA-12 selective fired shotgun for authorized military and police users in USA. It is possible that AA-12 will be used in limited numbers by some US agencies, but so far we have no information on actual use of this awesome weapon, which traces its ancestry to late days of Vietnam war.

Modern Firearms - Atchisson assault shotgun / AA-12

Charlemagne Allen · 01-08-2009, 10:29 PM

If we're talking about awesome rare guns, the Walther WA2000 has to be included. It's considered one of best sniper rifles ever made, and only 176 or so were ever made.

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Walther WA-2000 sniper rifle had been developed by Carl Walther Waffenfabrik (Germany) during late 1970s and early 1980s as a highly specialized police sniper rifle. First introduced in 1982, it was later adopted by some specialized police units in Germany, but rifle was too expensive to achieve widespread sales, and production was fairy limited. It is believed that only about 176 WA-2000 rifles were ever made. Unlike many other sniper rifles of that period, WA-2000 was not a conversion of the sporting or hunting rifle, but entirely new design with some remarkable features.

The gun is built in the bullpup style, to achieve most compact package while maintaining suitably long barrels. Basic chambering was .300 Winchester Magnum, with effective range well beyond 800 meters, with optional chamberings for 7.62mm NATO (.308 win) and 7.5mm Swiss. WA-2000 is a semiautomatic rifle, gas operated, with rotating bolt. Short stroke gas piston is located below the barrel. The heavy, match-grade barrel is fluted and free-floated and is unusually located between two aluminum struts that form the chassis of the rifle and provide mounting points for wooden forend and below and telescope mount and bipod above. The stock (buttplate and cheek rest) and trigger are adjustable. Feed was from single-stack detachable box magazines. WA-2000 sniper rifle had no open sights, and had a quick-detachable scope mount. Most common optical sight was a Schmidt & Bender 2.5-10X variable power telescope

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/wa2000-1.jpg

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