Ingrid

This is fascinating, i don't know anything about this stuff.

This page puts the risk of terrible stuff happening at 11% to 25%
http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/anon1.htm

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Walker

I'd be really concerned if I was one of your pets right now Ingrid, particularly after your comments in that dating thread yesterday.

Ingrid

You mean the thread about me eaten my pets during a food shortage crisis?

Walker

Depends how fast you swallow.

Walker

Yes.

Your edit broke my previous reply.

Jackal Ennui

Too many words, not enough math, and a laughable literature list.

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Ewan Took

I remembered the name... 'End Day'

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...y/preview.html

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Squeedoo S

Mmm, I vote "don't turn it on". I like Earth and I like the Universe, so, no way.

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Ingrid

Thank god. I didn't feel like being suckd into a black hole yet. I have to have lesbian sex with Ruby first.

Tranquility

You live near Fermilab?! The tours are free and its like visiting a 1960's scifi novel! Very interesting even if you aren't into that kin of thing. Here's some photos of what's at Fermi.

Verkin Raven

Meh, if it turns out to be a disaster, death will be really instant. Better than writhing in agony on a hospital bed for months. Turn it on.

cassidiJ

This just in...

Spurred by unknown sources on the internet people everywhere called their government reps to demand to know why their nation wasn't in the lead in this amazing technology.

In Washington Congress is in special session to determine the cause of this shortfall in the collider sweepstakes. A bipartisan panel made a statement early this morning. "When it comes to destroying the planet or destroying the planet we need to take the course that is best for our great Nation."

People have gathered in the parking lots of huge retailers, some wore T-shirts proclaiming 'Who's strange matter is it anyway?' and demanding that they be the first to throw that switch.

And God in her rightful form of Alanis Morissette (See Dogma damn you)
looked at her palm pilot and said to no one in particular, "...think I'll cancel my next skeebbowl excursion".

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Cindy Claveau

The "laws of nature" are not laws - they are statements of high probability. Sagan pointed out that there is no real 'law' that prevents all the air from rushing out of a room when you open the door, but the odds against it happening are astronomical.

Before the first detonation of an atomic weapon at Alamogordo in 1945, some of the scientists pointed out that there might be a small chance of the chain reaction not stopping, resulting in the consumption of the Earth's atmosphere and the end of Mankind. Of course, no such thing has happened even though there have been over 2,000 nuclear weapons tests since 1945.

Cindy Claveau

Fermilab is awesome. (I have a tshirt and photos!). On the guided tour, we were told how they're using the particle accelerator to treat soft tissue cancers. It's radiation free and safe - they lower the patient into the tube and fire particles through them. They have a remarkable record of success using this, but there's a waiting list to get people in.

I went up to the top floor of the big office building. It's all open on the inside (huge pendulum in there, which is cool) and since I have extreme acrophobia, I had to be taken back down quickly before I got sick and passed out

ruby tuesday

Hot Canuck XXX Part 1

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Tranquility

Hehe, I forgot about the cancer treatment! I did get a kick out of the bug control on the top floor; you can't beat old school sticky flypaper hanging everywhere!

Redhead

Anyone ever read that Stephen King story from his book Skeleton Crew called The Mist? In the story, the mist is caused by some kind of "experiment" at a government lab that opens a rift to another dimention...


http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1809834165/video/3906309/

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Aimee Weber

Well black holes are created by exerting a force upon an atom strong enough to compress it to a very tiny density , small enough that it crosses a threshold where the escape velocity for internal (or nearby) particles would have to be faster than the speed of light (which isn't possible.)

In nature this force is provided by the enormous mass of a collapsing sun. But remember Newton's law F = ma. Acceleration is another way of providing force and that's what the Hadron Collider would theoretically do. If a tiny particle here on Earth gets smashed with enough force it could be compressed past that gravitational threshold, then it will collapse.

Once you have this collapsed atom a chain reaction begins. Nearby atoms will get sucked into the tiny black hole which will make it slightly heavier ... which will attract more atoms making it still heavier ... on and on until it sucks in everything. This can happen in the center of a sun or in the Hadron laboratory.

So why AREN'T we in danger? Because of Hawkins radiation (named after Stephen Hawkins.) My knowledge is shaky here so feel free to verify and correct me! But as I understand it, black holes give off radiation in the form of elementary particles. Now in the center of a sun, there are a LOT of collapsed atoms forming black holes, so when one black hole spits out some radiation, the particle is just sucked up by a nearby mini black hole and the whole process is able to continue.

But in the laboratory, as soon as one of these little black holes are created, it will spit out some radiation which decreases it's mass enough where it no longer has the required density and then poof. No more black hole.

So why MAY we be in danger? Because Hawkins radiation has not been proven to exist. The vast majority of physicists are quite certain it exists! They are so sure they're betting their lives on it But if the teeny weeny, itsey bitsy chance that they are wrong exists, it's game over for all of us

Clancy Sullivan

Couldn't have said it better myself. Good job, Aimee. But, for those fence-sitters and oldschool scientists who are still worried, I did the numbers to prove there is nothing to fear:

(1- (2 f M) / (c² r))1/2 = (1- (2 . 6,67.10-11 . 5,96.1024) / (299792458² . 6,36.106))1/2 = (1 - 1,39.10-7)1/2 = 0,9999999305 (= risk factor almost 1)

You can also use this formula to make perfect pancake batter.

Aimee Weber

Uh oh. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. You used 5,96.1024 when it should have been 5,92.1024.

JESUS H CHRIST YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS?!?!?!



My pancakes are going to be UNDER DONE!

Sooz Pascale

He predicted a Civil War inthe US starting in 2005. Last time I checked, it hasn't happened.

Sooz

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Ten

scary. a bit. but turn that bitch on and see what happens I guess. :\ I'm torn. I want to ChickenLittle this subject - "OMG NOOOOOO"

Walker

The pictures he posted of his time machine were the most damning. It was later identified as some kind of 1960s era radiation device, but I haven't seen the side-by-side photos for a couple of years and I can't find them with Google now.

cassidiJ

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I think all this thread proves (quite nicely too) is that as a species we're impotent to do anything beyond mindfucking ourselves.

This isn't sane behavior people. No one can convince me that Higgs boson is worth it-also i think that's the name of this guy on work release doing a special project for the US VP called CEO enrichment.
Another science that i am interested in, Anthropology, has stated that all the dominant cultures on the planet support and adhere to religions which are world rejecting.

That is life was a mistake and/or a testing ground. The good stuff is somewhere else.

i.e. you've been trained by crazy people to believe crazy things.