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Old 08-07-2008, 01:19 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:19 PM   #27 (permalink)
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When I'm being hateful and grudging, rest assured that it's my problem and not anything you've done. When people actually piss me off, hurt my feelings, step on my toes, I find it fairly easy to talk with them rationally about it and resolve the situation.

All that vitriolic dhrama and never speak to you again crap is just temper tantrum stuff. Feel free to throw it back in my face; it's probably what I need to hear at the time.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:25 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I believe people have base personalities.

I don't hold grudges, and generally, I don't believe there is anything to forgive even if someone wrongs me.

I figure, if they wrong me, that it is part of their base personality that they did. Either they know the difference between right and wrong and don't care or they do not place a high enough priority on their friendships to care.

So, instead of forgiving or holding grudges. I always forgive, and I don't hold grudges, but I choose not to be friends with those who I would have to forgive or hold grudges against.

Once I believe I have enough information to determine someone's base personality, I'm either friends with them, or I am not.
I'm kinda the same way, Jessica, but that's not exactly what I meant by a "grudge".

All of us pick our circle of friends based on very personal criteria - similar interests, background, beliefs, etc. And we exclude those with whom we don't agree or who have argued with us over something personal.

But I think that's different from the strict definition of grudge, which might include going out of your way to cause the person grief or pain, seeking out their posts on an internet board to trash them or argue with them instead of ignoring them. Maybe even stalking them in SL or RL, trying to mess up their day. That sort of active, aggressive behavior really does create what my New Agey friend calls "negative energy" that can eat at us.

I'm just afraid that if I allow myself to do that, someday I'll end up old and bitter. I think I'd be miserable that way.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:35 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I don't waste my passion on grudges, it's a poor deal. If I was your foe and I could goad you into a lifelong grudge with some simple words I would be immensely happy. I have never fallen for that one and hopefully never will.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Well it's not like I brood, something can make me massively angry in a moment and then I largely forget about it until it comes up later-- if it never gets resolved.

I do hold grudges incredibly long, it's the Scorpio. But when satisfied I drop them pretty quickly.
I'm a little like this, except it takes someone doing something really, really bad or threatening in RL to make me that angry. I've only blown three times in my life and it was like a volcano when I did.

So far, I've never gotten that angry at someone in virtual life and I've only been that angry at three people in my entire RL.

One of those people I forgave (but I still divoriced him), one I disowned completely (revenge enough) and the other I'm still, after 12 years, waiting for my moment to get revenge or to piss on her grave.

I tend to feel a little better about things after I've either gotten an apology or revenge, whichever comes first.

Oh, and I'm a Scorpio too.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:48 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:15 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't hold grudges, but I enjoy being spiteful. Its immediate satisfaction. If you take too long to get back at someone they may have forgotten what it was about. Like training a dog.
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I hate holding grudges and have tried to make peace with people who said literally, the worst shit about me on SC/SLU. Grudges and bad feelings over forum fights really bother me. Grudges in general are actually quite hard for me to maintain, online or in RL. If someone is hopeless, I tend to just ignore them.
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:22 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I hate holding grudges and have tried to make peace with people who said literally, the worst shit about me on SC/SLU. Grudges and bad feelings over forum fights really bother me. Grudges in general are actually quite hard for me to maintain, online or in RL. If someone is hopeless, I tend to just ignore them.
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:23 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I don't form grudges well (that takes effort and memory, and I'm lazy and like people socially to eat, drink, and be merry) and do worse at keeping them. I think we're all pretty forgiving as a group though. A good example for me is Tenshi: she's one of my favorite posters now, and many know what foot she and I got off on.

There have been psychological studies on who you end up liking best in life. You end up liking, from most to least, in the following order:

(1) Someone who you initially disliked, but grew to like.
(2) Someone who you liked initially, and continued to like.
(3) Someone who you disliked initially, and continued to dislike.
(4) Someone who you liked initially, and grew to dislike.

I guess being pleasantly surprised by people who rub you the wrong way initially is always a good thing.

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Old 08-07-2008, 02:28 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I think I just finished reading the exchange that inspired this thread.

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Old 08-07-2008, 02:31 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:32 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I suppose partly because it's easier to depersonalise someone.


But depersonalisation is good.

When they make it real life personal, it gets scary... and I often wonder whether such idiots think to themselves, "hang on, this is a bit weird," when they're scouring phone records so they can take a forum spat to a creepy phone call.

Winning teh internets is serious business to some, I suppose, and they just don't know where to draw the line.

(I'm not referring to anybody here in the text above btw. )

I get a bit highly strung on forums sometimes, but I'm usually over any bad feeling within a few hours. If I've really offended somebody through my own stupidity, and caused a lingering bad atmosphere, I'll generally make my apologies and step away for a while.
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Old 08-07-2008, 02:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I don't form grudges well (that takes effort and memory, and I'm lazy and like people socially to eat, drink, and be merry) and do worse at keeping them. I think we're all pretty forgiving as a group though. A good example for me is Tenshi: she's one of my favorite posters now, and many know what foot she and I got off on.

There have been psychological studies on who you end up liking best in life. You end up liking, from most to least, in the following order:

(1) Someone who you initially disliked, but grew to like.
(2) Someone who you liked initially, and continued to like.
(3) Someone who you disliked initially, and continued to dislike.
(4) Someone who you liked initially, and grew to dislike.

I guess being pleasantly surprised by people who rub you the wrong way initially is always a good thing.

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Scenario for ya.... we go out to eat.. I not only scarf down all your mozz sticks, but I eat all your mac and cheese as well...
See, that's just uncalled for.
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Scenario for ya.... we go out to eat.. I not only scarf down all your mozz sticks, but I eat all your mac and cheese as well... Tell me you wouldnt be chasing me around the room with a fork..
It would never happen! I would have ordered enough cheese for the both of us.
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It would never happen! I would have ordered enough cheese for the both of us.

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Oh, and I'm a Scorpio too.
So am I but I don't do the grudge/revenge bit well.

Too much Sag and Virgo. I have a horrible temper but I still want to be Friendly (sag) and Civil (virgo) at the end of the day, lol.

I tend to let most insults roll off my back for that reason, because I can say the most evil things to people when angry so I can't really judge that.

Except when I do. When it r