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Old 07-25-2008, 09:07 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Because i was in a good mood?


I'm ok with that, really. I just felt like laughing, ok?

Fuck, is everyone else on the rag today too? I thought it was just me.
No.. I'm not on the Rag Cindy.. LOL

It just wasnt the reaction I expected to the post.. and I wan't sure if you were dismissing it or what, that's all.

That page, from the big ear observatory itself has some fascinating stuff on it, and its well worth the read.

And I know you do like to look at evidence objectively.

Obviously this has nothing to do with ET's coming here, but its relevant to the wider debate on life in the universe ans SETI
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I've thought of that too. My thoughts are that maybe SETI ain't all it's cracked up to be, or they don't use radio. I mean, just because WE use radio waves to communicate over distances, doesn't mean other's haven't figured something else out. Doesn't have to be all futuristic and complicated either really, just something we plain haven''t thought of.
So how do we use unknown technologies to search? We use radio waves because - well, because the UNIVERSE uses them. Radio waves are all over the universe, and our radios and TVs are only emulating them.

Sure, another life form may use different methods we don't know about yet, but there's a very good chance that somewhere along their road to sentience they discovered radio waves. So if they want to send out a message to us either they're smart and use radiowaves, the language of the universe (oh wait, sorry, that's math), or they're not real serious about finding us.

I say we need to feel wanted here, don't you?
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No.. I'm not on the Rag Cindy.. LOL

It just wasnt the reaction I expected to the post.. and I wan't sure if you were dismissing it or what, that's all.
No, and I'm sorry I gave that impression. When I read the phrase "WoW signal", the first thing that popped in my head was that someone was afraid their World of Warcraft game was going out into space. So that made me feel silly.

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That page, from the big ear observatory itself has some fascinating stuff on it, and its well worth the read.
Agreed. I used to participate in SETI@home, but after I got rid of my last computer I didn't rejoin. I always thought it was an amazing project and very worthwhile.

Any of you who are serious about supporting the search for extraterrestrial life should look at that link - you download and install a free program that uses your home computer in a distributed network to analyze their data. It's painless, and only wakes up when you're not using the machine.
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Agreed. I used to participate in SETI@home, but after I got rid of my last computer I didn't rejoin. I always thought it was an amazing project and very worthwhile.

Any of you who are serious about supporting the search for extraterrestrial life should look at that link - you download and install a free program that uses your home computer in a distributed network to analyze their data. It's painless, and only wakes up when you're not using the machine.
Likewise regarding SETI@home
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Agreed. I used to participate in SETI@home, but after I got rid of my last computer I didn't rejoin. I always thought it was an amazing project and very worthwhile.

Any of you who are serious about supporting the search for extraterrestrial life should look at that link - you download and install a free program that uses your home computer in a distributed network to analyze their data. It's painless, and only wakes up when you're not using the machine.
Awesome, thank you, downloading the software now.
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Likewise regarding SETI@home
I used to run seti@home on my old computer, but never installed it on the one I have now. maybe I'll take another look at it. The only thing is I don't leave my computer on when not using it, so it takes a long time to complete work units.
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If aliens really exist, they're either pretending we don't exist, laughing at us really hard, or doing their utmost to jerk us around.
I think it's the latter. They advanced beyond our wildest dreams and mastered interstellar travel, and it turns out that they're just a bunch of dicks. Just complete assholes. They aren't even laughing. They're just jerking us around because they can.

Where's Randy Quaid from Independence Day when we need him?
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I think it's the latter. They advanced beyond our wildest dreams and mastered interstellar travel
We can barely manage Interstate travel......

Hey Trout, did you know there was an alternate ending to ID4?
He strapped a Nuke to the BiPlane and flew it into the mothership.


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Hey Trout, did you know there was an alternate ending to ID4?
He strapped a Nuke to the BiPlane and flew it into the mothership.


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I love the way they dare to say "we lose some believability due to him flying next to F-16s"
Because uploading the virus was believable?
Because ramming a nuke into a ship would detonate it - how has he primed the warhead? Nukes don't explode on impact, for maximum destruction they explode in the air.

gargh, that film was a pile of wank
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I love the way they dare to say "we lose some believability due to him flying next to F-16s"
Because uploading the virus was believable?
Because ramming a nuke into a ship would detonate it - how has he primed the warhead? Nukes don't explode on impact, for maximum destruction they explode in the air.

gargh, that film was a pile of wank
It wasn't meant to be a Carl Sagan documentary. It was just a good popcorn movies. I love it. It was hugely entertaining
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I love the way they dare to say "we lose some believability due to him flying next to F-16s"
Because uploading the virus was believable?
Because ramming a nuke into a ship would detonate it - how has he primed the warhead? Nukes don't explode on impact, for maximum destruction they explode in the air.

gargh, that film was a pile of wank
Do you hyperventilate at every episode of Doctor Who too, or do you employ this thing called "suspension of belief" and worry about actually enjoying what you're watching?
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Do you hyperventilate at every episode of Doctor Who too, or do you employ this thing called "suspension of belief" and worry about actually enjoying what you're watching?
Let's keep some fiction in Science Fiction.
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I told Cris when he created that section that no one would read it.

I don't. And my post wasn't 'scientific' anyway. I'm lampooning delusional people
Actually you seem to be the one having difficulty checking there first.
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So how do we use unknown technologies to search? We use radio waves because - well, because the UNIVERSE uses them. Radio waves are all over the universe, and our radios and TVs are only emulating them.
I think the big question people should be asking recently is why the US government is working so hard on freeing up the air waves we are already using. The "everyone goes wired" TV switch, HD radio, etc etc.

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I love the way they dare to say "we lose some believability due to him flying next to F-16s"
Because uploading the virus was believable?
Because ramming a nuke into a ship would detonate it - how has he primed the warhead? Nukes don't explode on impact, for maximum destruction they explode in the air.

gargh, that film was a pile of wank
its in my top 5 most woeful film's ever made..

hehe, when the alien grabs yer man and starts talking through him, just as a shitty way of getting the story accross I fucked popcorn at the screen, plenty others did too!
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Do you hyperventilate at every episode of Doctor Who too, or do you employ this thing called "suspension of belief" and worry about actually enjoying what you're watching?
Doctor Who doesn't try destroying my brain cells with just random plot points thrown into a pile of utter crap. It is pretty much one of the least intelligent movies ever made.
All the hype for it was about the computer graphics, which should have warned me what it was going to be about.

All the stupid "monument" destroying laser beams from the spaceships, to alien spaceships that interface with macs. They didn't even try to make an excuse for any of it.
I suspend disbelief in most movies, but when one is screaming ”everything you're watching is fake" all through the film, it gets really difficult to keep that disbelief suspended.

The first half of the movie was ok, but after the destruction, it turned into a 3 yr old's comedy show. Sesame Street is more believable.
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Pullman's "cornball speech" in the 1996 blockbuster led a cringe-making list.
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So how do we use unknown technologies to search? We use radio waves because - well, because the UNIVERSE uses them. Radio waves are all over the universe, and our radios and TVs are only emulating them.
So where does Richard Dreyfuss, the pile of dirt and the fancy Simon board come in?
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Doctor Who doesn't try destroying my brain cells with just random plot points thrown into a pile of utter crap. It is pretty much one of the least intelligent movies ever made.
All the hype for it was about the computer graphics, which should have warned me what it was going to be about.

All the stupid "monument" destroying laser beams from the spaceships, to alien spaceships that interface with macs. They didn't even try to make an excuse for any of it.
I suspend disbelief in most movies, but when one is screaming ”everything you're watching is fake" all through the film, it gets really difficult to keep that disbelief suspended.

The first half of the movie was ok, but after the destruction, it turned into a 3 yr old's comedy show. Sesame Street is more believable.
Are you kidding me? The psuedo-science in Doctor Who is astounding. Total rubbish, completely ridiculous, as scientific as Independence Day by far.

But that's irrelevant. I don't go to a summer blockbuster to be enlightened on string theory, I go to be entertained. If you want to pay to complain afterward I suppose that's entertainment too, but I get more enjoyment my way.

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Um, Joshua.

That was one of the stupidest movies ever, ok? I wasn't entertaining to me, it was annoying.

Fave moment: Huge, terrifying Alien craft is hovering over LA in the morning to everyone's horror but mom makes her son go to school anyway, dammit. Plus she goes to work cause you know, she has bills to pay.

I mean, come on.
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I liked it.

My point was you shouldn't go to a blockbuster to bitch about the implementation of science.

That's stupider than the plot of the movie.
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I liked it.

My point was you shouldn't go to a blockbuster to bitch about the implementation of science.

That's stupider than the plot of the movie.
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I liked it.

My point was you shouldn't go to a blockbuster to bitch about the implementation of science.

That's stupider than the plot of the movie.
It depends on the person and their knowledge of the subject.

My mom can't watch most anything about medicine or set in hospitals without having serious disruption of her suspension of disbelief due to it being, to her, laughably incorrect.

I'm the same way about historical dramas.

I'll bet if some movie was set in an internet company and was loose with the facts and heavy on fantasy you wouldn't be able to stand it, either.

But that movie was dumb, period.
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