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Old 10-14-2007, 06:42 AM   #101 (permalink)
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...and some people wonder why many of us have little to no tolerance for the intolerance shown by many Evangelicals.
She is not an evangelican. She ignorantly suggested the same thing that Hitler and nazism engaged in during WW2.
The Holocaust. She made Adminajab very happy.
I now have no further use for her.
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Old 10-15-2007, 09:02 PM   #103 (permalink)
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On one hand, I admire her for having the tenacity to stick to her guns....
Sometimes, she just doesn't know when to backdown:

She's free to spout as much garbage as she can, the more outrageous, the better - it makes her look that much more insane.
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Feh. Goyim.

Gefilte fish is one of the finest things in all the universe.
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thy name is legion

(some of us are sephardic after all)
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:51 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Sometimes, she just doesn't know when to backdown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmcZG87Fmxc

She's free to spout as much garbage as she can, the more outrageous, the better - it makes her look that much more insane.
Pretty much.

Just because I admire her for not backing down in the face of overwhelming "STFU you bitch" doesn't mean I don't think she's batshit crazy.

It just means I think she has a set of brass ones, which is never a bad thing.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:45 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Well you might disagree with my aforementioned views on religion (and hey, my views may be wrong!) but the bigger point I was trying to make is, do I enter into "stupid bigoted bitch Ann Coutler" territory if I VOICE that I believe the world would be better without religion, and that scientific theory perfected the religious methods of unraveling the secrets of the universe?
Josh inferred this point, but I wanted to restate it because A) I agree with it, and B) I like to post.

The big difference between you and Coulter, Aimee, is the (and hey, my views may be wrong!) caveat. You accept the possibility of other beliefs while keeping your own. That's a much stronger and smarter way of thinking than what is currently being used in the political/religious landscape.

I call it the Miller Credo (after Dennis Miller, who coined it back when he was funny): "Of course, that's just my opinion. I might be wrong."
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FYI In simplistic terms Christians and Jews believe the same thing except Christians believe Jesus was the Messiah, Jews believe the Messiah hasn't come yet.
You're mistaken. It's also as difficult to say "Jews believe" as it is to say "Christians believe" since there are many different sects of both with varying beliefs.

Which things to both Christians and Jews believe?
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Which things to both Christians and Jews believe?
The same things most religions have in common until the dipshits get hold of it: be honest in your dealings, treat others with kindness, don't go around slaying others without a damn good reason, etc. It's just those niggling doctrinal things that keep everyone apart.
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The same things most religions have in common until the dipshits get hold of it: be honest in your dealings, treat others with kindness, don't go around slaying others without a damn good reason, etc. It's just those niggling doctrinal things that keep everyone apart.
Except for the radical fringe of both religions which really do believe that that rules only count in tribe because everyone else is and unbeliever or heretic and therefore, fair game.
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Ann C. serves one valuable purpose. She provides insight into how some conservatives really think and believe.

It's hard to resist policies that evolve out a mindset you don't experience or understand.
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You're mistaken. It's also as difficult to say "Jews believe" as it is to say "Christians believe" since there are many different sects of both with varying beliefs.

Which things to both Christians and Jews believe?
For example. Surreal and I have different beliefs regarding Gefilte Fish.
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Except for the radical fringe of both religions which really do believe that that rules only count in tribe because everyone else is and unbeliever or heretic and therefore, fair game.
Yeah, it's pretty much what I meant by the dipshits getting hold of it.
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Which things to both Christians and Jews believe?
At its simplest both believe the same God, and most nearly everything from Genesis to before any mention of John the Baptist. From that point on is a lot of divergence.

IIRC Jesus Christ (or Emmanuel Bar Miriam?) is regarded as a prophet, and not the Messiah by the Jews. Jews await the Messiah.
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At its simplest both believe the same God, and most nearly everything from Genesis to before any mention of John the Baptist. From that point on is a lot of divergence.

IIRC Jesus Christ (or Emmanuel Bar Miriam?) is regarded as a prophet, and not the Messiah by the Jews. Jews await the Messiah.
And if he don't show up soon I'm cuttin' da toikey widdout him!
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Well I am glad that Coulter finally gets the attention she has been craving. In pursuit of this media attention she has just about done everything else:

attacked gays
attacked presidential candidates
attacked veterans
attacked 9/11 widows
attacked muslims

So I think that pretty much leaves jews as the final straw.

Funny how you have to say something bad about jews to ruin your career these days, just about everything else passes.

Maybe we can get Lindsay Blohan, Paris Hilton, Kanye West, and Britney on this same wagon and get rid of them all at once.

I hear Britney thinks we should all be Christians.

Get on the fast track you jews!

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Leave it to an evil terroristic middle-easterner to attack jews. OMG TROY YOU HAVE GONE TOO FAR!
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At its simplest both believe the same God, and most nearly everything from Genesis to before any mention of John the Baptist. From that point on is a lot of divergence.

IIRC Jesus Christ (or Emmanuel Bar Miriam?) is regarded as a prophet, and not the Messiah by the Jews. Jews await the Messiah.
Do they believe in the same God? Many Christians believe in a Trinity - a 3/1. That's specifically not a Jewish belief, being polytheistic no matter how you rationalize it. I know Christian's tend to believe that their God the Father is the Jewish God, but Jews don't necessarily agree. Especially since the Christian view of the Jewish God pretty much stops at the end of the Old Testament, and the Jewish view of God doesn't.

The Jewish scriptures are cherry picked by Christians, not adopted wholely in the Hebrew with the Jewish interpretations.

Judaism is not a religion per se as much as it is a philosophy or a cultural identity. You don't have to make a statement of faith to be part of the tribe, as with most Christian and Islamic sects. You can be religious or irreligious, or even an atheist and still be a Jew. For the most part the only requirement is that your Mother is Jewish, and if you're a boy, that you are circumcised. If you're a Reform Jew, then your Dad could be Jewish and Mom not. It's only if a gentile wants to be adopted that there are religious requirements and even they vary by sect.

As for the Messiah, some are waiting - some aren't - some believe in a Messianic age, etc. There is a huge range of belief on that subject.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the average Christian doesn't actually know very much about Judaism, neither historically nor in a modern sense, so they should be wary about the idea of Judeo-Christian.
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shut up or I will mail you an improvised explosive wrapped around my chiseled midsection.

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison??
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