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Old 10-12-2007, 11:10 AM   #26 (permalink)
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doesn't judaism believe that jews are the chosen people? that's what some of my jewish friends tell me.

ann coulter is a crazy lady but isn't she right that christianity believes it's a perfected judaism? it might be uncouth to say but wasn't that really what jesus was all about?

i'm not jewish or cristian so i don't know as much about these religions. my experience is that all religions at their best respect all the other religions but think their own is more correct.
"At their best", yes, but we know that's rare. Christianity and Islam do represent the belief that they are the 'one true faith', but it's not a critical factor in the general beliefs. As with everything, individual people choose what they believe, to tolerate or not to. Only some of the Christians in the world believe in an 'exclusive' view of faith.

I do know that the stated position of Judaism is that, since not everyone can be one of 'the chosen people', that other religions are okay, and that if you're Goyim, all you have to do is be true to your own religion in order to be a good person.
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wow! a politician that says what she really thinks. definitely lynch her.
Ann Coulter is not a politician, she's a pundit. She has never held office, and never will. She's a commentator, a blabbermouth, an example of why the phrase STFU was invented.
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well whatever she is i give her marks for actually saying what she believes rather than saying whatever is pc.
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:26 AM   #31 (permalink)
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well whatever she is i give her marks for actually saying what she believes rather than saying whatever is pc.
she just says whatever will get her the most attention. it's worse than being pc.
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well whatever she is i give her marks for actually saying what she believes rather than saying whatever is pc.
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doesn't judaism believe that jews are the chosen people?
In Sholom Alechem's book of short stories "Tevyeh's daughters" (Fiddler on the roof was loosely based on this) The character of Tevyeh asks God if maybe he could choose someone else for a change.
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hey im not saying i agree with everything she has to say.
but i do like people that arent afraid to voice an opinion that they know full well will be unpopular.
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hey im not saying i agree with everything she has to say.
but i do like people that arent afraid to voice an opinion that they know full well will be unpopular.
I don't respect Coulter, because I get the feeling that she doesn't really think before she speaks. She may believe these things, but she's not very tactful about it. And she doesn't do very well defending herself in public, which indicates that her beliefs are not well thought-out. Her religious faith is not very sophisticated at all.

I'm perfectly fine with Ann Coulter speaking her mind, and I'm also glad to be able to say in public that I think much of what she says is stupid.
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hey im not saying i agree with everything she has to say.
but i do like people that arent afraid to voice an opinion that they know full well will be unpopular.
There are plenty of people who voice unpopular opinions. Some are voices of compassion and understanding during dark times. Others are purely divisive voices who refuse to acknowledge differing opinions. Ann Coulter belongs to the latter group.

I have no respect for Fred Phelps because he knows he voices an opinion not shared by most Americans. I also think Ann Coulter is a rotten cunt who spews hatred. I judge a person by the content of their speech, not the fact that they may be a lone voice.
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There are plenty of people who voice unpopular opinions. Some are voices of compassion and understanding during dark times. Others are purely divisive voices who refuse to acknowledge differing opinions. Ann Coulter belongs to the latter group.

I have no respect for Fred Phelps because he knows he voices an opinion not shared by most Americans. I also think Ann Coulter is a rotten cunt who spews hatred. I judge a person by the content of their speech, not the fact that they may be a lone voice.
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hey im not saying i agree with everything she has to say.
but i do like people that arent afraid to voice an opinion that they know full well will be unpopular.

Why? It's so easy to be socially inept. I could walk down the street and call someone retard and you'd applaud me? Regardless of whether or not I was right about the guy?
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Why? It's so easy to be socially inept. I could walk down the street and call someone retard and you'd applaud me? Regardless of whether or not I was right about the guy?
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she just says whatever will get her the most attention. it's worse than being pc.
Whenever she opens her mouth I can imagine her with a can of gasoline and a match, giggling. She likes a real life troll.
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anything taken to a logical extreme will sound foolish.

You mean she sounds extremely illogical and foolish.
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what exactly does it mean to "acknowledge differing opinions"?
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There are plenty of people who voice unpopular opinions. Some are voices of compassion and understanding during dark times. Others are purely divisive voices who refuse to acknowledge differing opinions. Ann Coulter belongs to the latter group.

I have no respect for Fred Phelps because he knows he voices an opinion not shared by most Americans. I also think Ann Coulter is a rotten cunt who spews hatred. I judge a person by the content of their speech, not the fact that they may be a lone voice.
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ive already stated i did not necessarily agree with everything she says, and i will not be fooled into arguing the merit of her comments.
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You mean she sounds extremely illogical and foolish.
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ive already stated i did not necessarily agree with everything she says, and i will not be fooled into arguing the merit of her comments.

But she gets full marks in your books for saying things that will piss people off.


I'm going to have to agree with Clancy.
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i did not say that.
i gave her high marks for "saying what she believes rather than saying whatever is pc".
if you wish to debate something i have said, make sure i have said it
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But she gets full marks in your books for saying things that will piss people off.


I'm going to have to agree with Clancy.
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i did not say that.
i gave her high marks for "saying what she believes rather than saying whatever is pc".
Why don't you give us the same treatment here in the forums? I called you an ass in some other thread and it's what I firmly believe but you never gave me high marks!
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i did not say that.
i gave her high marks for "saying what she believes rather than saying whatever is pc".
if you wish to debate something i have said, make sure i have said it
First of all, Ingrid is correct, and everybpdy should always "agree with Clancy".

Secondly, prinţesă, you have the right and the responsibility to judge whether what someone says is valuable and worthy of being repeated or not. Not everyone has the mental ability to do this but they certainly have the right to try. But, you're not trying. You are simply elevating the simple achievement of expressing any opinion, regardless of its moral value, to the status of something profound. Would you applaud a neo-nazi for addressing residents of a Jewish nursing home on the reasons why exterminating Jews was really a good thing during WWII?

You have the right and the responsibillity to judge what is good and bad. In the case of Ann Coulter, she's bad, really bad. I won't defend, and certainly won't commend her for saying anything, unless she comes out with a massive apology for all of the confused, backwards, right-wing shite she has uttered throughout her media career.

You cannot see the forest for the trees, many times. Please, be contemplative of that critical remark because I am not the only other reasonable and intelligent person here telling you this.
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