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Old 11-14-2013, 09:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Skills Hax name comes up by Oz Linden

I'm editing this to do two things:

1. Apologize to Skills for bringing this here because I didn't bother to do any research on it before I went all "WtF" and for that, I am sorry. She's not banned or the person who was banned due to the Emerald scandal. I also am sorry I used the 'guy' wording, didn't realize you were a female.

2. Show that I should always do a bit of research before posting! Because as proof in this post...I didn't. I'm sorry.

(original post not touched at all):

I just saw this on my twitter feed (thanks Mera for linking it) and my head did a side tilt and had to read it a few times.....is there any confirmation that we can get on this as to if it's true or not?

Andromeda Media Group: Emerald City Blues

The link is the Andromeda Media Group and it has a chat log with Oz Linden mentioning Skills. I'll copy/paste that here:

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[15:57] Oz Linden: maybe another commit hook test...
[15:57] Jonathan: Oz, do you still want me to file a storm for those gsavedsettings that should be cached or
[15:57] Phoenix-Firestorm Viewer Rocks: a lot of the headers need to be updated anyway to have the correct file name in thtem, or to add the file name to them thats missing currently
[15:57] Jonathan: do you want to look at the whole lot of them as a bigger study?
[15:58] Jonathan: (the settings in the music playing code)
[15:59] Oz Linden: Jonathan... sure, a collection of settings caching improvements would be most welcome
[16:00] Jonathan: I'll need that code from Skills Hax then
[16:00] Oz Linden: Tank... I ran a script to check that recently, and was intimidated by the number of files it would touch
[16:00] Mona: The one of Emerald "fame"?
[16:01] Jonathan: Oz, you had another prject in the works, and that was eliminating references to "dead" settings
[16:01] Ima Mechanique: Oz any news for onRegionChange best practise?
[16:01] Jonathan: from settings.xml
[16:01] Oz Linden: Skills has been making an apparently sincere effort to be helpful for quite some time now
Color me a little confused if this is true....but didn't the guy GET FUCKING BANNED?! for playing with coding in a stupendously insane way which lead to the downfall of Emerald and thus, brought us Firestorm?

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Old 11-14-2013, 09:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Devils advocate here:

When you get coders and hackers working for the police and the government, then why shouldn't someone who has "seen the error of their ways and is determined to prove themselves by working like we all do"* work for a private company they have a good knowledge of?

* I have no idea if the person behind that account has ever made those sort of admissions and has a desire to work within limits imposed by a company. I'm just posing the question.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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...Color me a little confused if this is true....but didn't the guy GET FUCKING BANNED?! for playing with coding in a stupendously insane way which lead to the downfall of Emerald and thus, brought us Firestorm?
She was never banned, as far as i know, She was still selling that CDS system and owned several well known sims, i think someone might be confusing her with Phox.
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Skills always seemed teflon-coated during the whole Emerald debacle. She was certainly never banned, at least as far as I recall.
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Yw Misty, ya im confused. Skills was in deep sh-t as the rest of the Emerald team anyho and as a costumer I dont want her poking around in the official viewer.
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Anyone can write code for the official viewer; but no one's getting their code accepted without Oz's specific approval; and I don't think he would blindly accept her commits.

I'd be far more worried if I found out she was commiting to a TPV where they don't have the same career and financial pressures that LL faces.
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no one's getting their code accepted without Oz's specific approval
I doubt Oz code reviews everything submitted, and you'd have to at least look at all the diffs to be sure nothing shady was going on. Maybe he has someone do it, or at least skim through it, who knows. A good release engineer will often glance through submissions by less expert coders, perhaps non-employees are all in that category.

The file in question is a pretty innocuous set of initialization values (here's a 5-months old version that was easily found).

I haven't had coffee yet, so ima venture a snark to say that I guess the Emerald team would be expected to have some knowledge of the audio and media initialization code.
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I doubt Oz code reviews everything submitted, and you'd have to at least look at all the diffs to be sure nothing shady was going on. Maybe he has someone do it, or at least skim through it, who knows. A good release engineer will often glance through submissions by less expert coders, perhaps non-employees are all in that category.
I'd imagine he'd make a point to review anything submitted by her, though.

Beyond that, I'm not sure about the specifics of their submission process (is anyone?).
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I'd imagine he'd make a point to review anything submitted by her, though.

Beyond that, I'm not sure about the specifics of their submission process (is anyone?).
*Every* submission is reviewed. And I know at least in the case of submissions I've done, Oz did it himself.

For awhile LL had a special site set up for code reviews, which they may still use, but I know there was a push to do the reviews directly on Bitbucket, to make things easier.

Regardless, *nobody*, not even LL employess, get a free pass to just put whatever code they want into the viewer.

*Everything* gets reviewed.
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Color me a little confused if this is true....but didn't the guy GET FUCKING BANNED?!
Yeah, you're confusing Phox and Skills there, definitely. Skills owns the Insilico sims, and is pretty much hanging in SL on a daily basis.

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Yw Misty, ya im confused. Skills was in deep sh-t as the rest of the Emerald team
On the contrary. Only a small portion of the team was in actual deep shit. Most weren't. See: A pile of current Firestorm devs for example. Or me. Hi!
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I changed my mind, let's have lots of facepalm-level group chat spam about Linden letting an ex-greifer write their viewer and it's not safe to log in and don't accept any objects named gSavedSettings because they will delete your inventory.
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Thanks guys for the clear up...

Let me go hide under that rock over there....let me know when it's safe to come out...


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Also FWIW, i have no plans on working on the LL viewer, i have been maintaining my own client all this time since 2008 and don't feel like putting much effort into any public unpaid projects any more, you can put your pitchforks away <3

[2013/11/11 07:41:20] Some Linden: skills, if you'd like to start a project to streamline that, performance improvements are always welcome
[2013/11/11 07:41:39] kissmeok (Skills Hak): i wish i had more time for SL opensource stuff :/
[2013/11/11 07:41:57] kissmeok (Skills Hak): RL keeps me pretty busy, i'm at work right now actually lol
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I changed my mind, let's have lots of facepalm-level group chat spam about Linden letting an ex-greifer write their viewer and it's not safe to log in and don't accept any objects named gSavedSettings because they will delete your inventory.
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I changed my mind, let's have lots of facepalm-level group chat spam about Linden letting an ex-greifer write their viewer and it's not safe to log in and don't accept any objects named gSavedSettings because they will delete your inventory.
I'm sure Kitely's safe from such drama.
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