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Dancien Graves · 03-24-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiro Queso

ZOMGUVEKIDNAPPEDVICSDOG!

We have contacted animal control. FREEDOMFORVICSDOG!!!

Joshua Nightshade · 03-24-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah Nerd

Before I hand my husband over, I need to ask, Do You like Bears?

I'm open minded.

Beezle Warburton · 03-24-2008, 09:58 PM

Does someone have a copy of the parody logo flipping the bird?

Ten · 03-24-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BeezW

Does someone have a copy of the parody logo flipping the bird?

Been there, asked that. Can't even find it on google image search.

Beezle Warburton · 03-24-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ten

Been there, asked that. Can't even find it on google image search.

I have this bad habit of replying mid thread without reading all of it first, if you haven't noticed.

Ten · 03-24-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BeezW

I have this bad habit of replying mid thread without reading all of it first, if you haven't noticed.

I do that too. It usually results in me getting knocked upside the head for not reading the entire thread. Audible gasps usually precede the whacking.

Ten · 03-24-2008, 10:23 PM

HI CRIS! WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE?

WarKirby Magojiro · 03-24-2008, 10:25 PM

There's a thread about this on SL®Exchange™

>.>

http://uncensored.slexchange.com/mod...er=asc&start=0

someone posted the fake Second Life Eye-in-Hand logo® there. Can't seem to find it now, but it's probably there.

Beezle Warburton · 03-24-2008, 10:27 PM

Heh, "Shop On Rez" (aka SL Boutique) got ahead of the game on this.

FIC!

ruby tuesday · 03-24-2008, 10:34 PM

S and L are actually my first and middle initials.

so SLU is now my universe, bitches.

Beezle Warburton · 03-24-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ruby tuesday

SL are actually my first and middle initials.

so SLU is now my universe, bitches.

Uh oh.

Fox Stirling · 03-25-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

I will aggressively protect my trademark to Joshua Nightshade, and anyone referring to me as Josh must submit themselves to immediate buttsecks.

Unless they're a girl, and then they have to turn over their husbands or boyfriends.

HENCEFORTH!

Josh, I can't imagine how you'd expect to be able to properly regulate and administer this punishment for referring to you as Josh. Honestly Josh, I just don't think you'll be able to keep up. But I guess thats really the point though isn't it Josh?

By the way Josh, are the terms of punishment compounded by the amount of times I refer to you as Josh?

*crosses fingers*

Thanks Josh!
--Fox

josh josh josh josh josh josh josh josh josh

WarKirby Magojiro · 03-25-2008, 12:23 AM

Ya®®®®®

Bard Jameson · 03-25-2008, 12:37 AM

So, have they trademarked the word "second" and all its forms?

I was thinking of calling my next store "Sloppy Seconds".

Adam Zaius · 03-25-2008, 12:50 AM

They cant protect SL or LL -- trademark law doesnt allow two character trademarks. Three is very difficult to pursue (you have to be a big known brand, ala IBM, Sun, etc)

I dont know why they are trying to - they should know that they arent required to defend those, since they cant aquire them.

Usual disclaimer: IANAL.

Joshua Nightshade · 03-25-2008, 12:51 AM

heh. anal.

Cristiano · 03-25-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam Zaius

They cant protect SL or LL -- trademark law doesnt allow two character trademarks. Three is very difficult to pursue (you have to be a big known brand, ala IBM, Sun, etc)

I dont know why they are trying to - they should know that they arent required to defend those, since they cant aquire them.

Usual disclaimer: IANAL.

There are several SL trademarks in the US database.

Aodhan McDunnough · 03-25-2008, 01:03 AM

The SL part is problematic in general but is easy to enforce if you go contextual. For example we can't argue that SL in SL Universe is not Second Life.

Having been exposed to trademark rules of international organizations, not even corporations, I'm actually surprised Linden Labs took so long to handle this matter. Trademark guidelines are important so that people can clearly and easily distinguish between you (SL and LL in this case) and someone who is only associated with you (SLU, SLExchange, etc). RIght when the commercial websites sprung up LL should have supplied logos (like the InSL) and usage rules for such purpose.

Truth be told, I was surprised that their logo/banner package that is downloadable from the website contained their actual official logos and trademarks and not affiliation logos (e.g. InSL).

Cristiano · 03-25-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aodhan McDunnough

The SL part is problematic in general but is easy to enforce if you go contextual. For example we can't argue that SL in SL Universe is not Second Life.

Having been exposed to trademark rules of international organizations, not even corporations, I'm actually surprised Linden Labs took so long to handle this matter. Trademark guidelines are important so that people can clearly and easily distinguish between you (SL and LL in this case) and someone who is only associated with you (SLU, SLExchange, etc). RIght when the commercial websites sprung up LL should have supplied logos (like the InSL) and usage rules for such purpose.

The thing that pisses me off is we have always been told we can't use Second Life in a domain name, yet SL is fine. They have had guidelines for third party sites since the very beginning. Their disclaimer that they required be put on sites only mentioned Second Life and Linden Lab as being trademarks. Not only have the let the Second Life Herald use their trademark in both domain and business name, they have done so in violation of their own stated policy.

Aodhan McDunnough · 03-25-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

The thing that pisses me off is we have always been told we can't use Second Life in a domain name, yet SL is fine. They have had guidelines for third party sites since the very beginning. Their disclaimer that they required be put on sites only mentioned Second Life and Linden Lab as being trademarks. Not only have the let the Second Life Herald use their trademark in both domain and business name, they have done so in violation of their own stated policy.

Pissed rightfully so. Perhaps you should take it up with Torley or something because domain name change is not a simple matter.

Besides it's a pretty common thing that fansites use the host name (e.g. WoW, RO, Sims) and extend it. IMO LL should not take any issues with SLUniverse, SLExchange, and the like since they are extended names very much like, say, ROEmpire, and there's no way you can be mistaken to be an official LL entity.

LL should allow the SL-extending. It's important for them to have legal distance but it's also important for them to have recognizable proximity. People still have to know immediately that your site is SL-oriented.

03-24-2008, 09:58 PM	#53 (permalink)
Beezle Warburton Stabbity! GAH! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 1,851 SL Join Date: October 24, 2006 Business: Cortech Enterprises SLShopper Ads: 12 My Mood:	Does someone have a copy of the parody logo flipping the bird? __________________ Cortech Enterprises Alternate Location Cortech at Shop.OnRez Second Life®, SL®, $L™, Lindens™, Linden Dollars®, Linden Lab®, Missing Image™, [RESOLVED]™ and the color gray are trademarks or registered trademarks of Linden Research, Inc. All rights reserved.

03-24-2008, 10:34 PM	#60 (permalink)
ruby tuesday Banned How about a magic trick? Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,922 Blog Entries: 1 My Mood:	S and L are actually my first and middle initials. so SLU is now my universe, bitches. __________________ "I don't know Ruby well and so I wouldn't until I knew her boundaries." "She has none." "I don't think that is quite correct - rather, they are infinitely expanding." Last edited by ruby tuesday; 03-25-2008 at 07:11 AM.

03-25-2008, 12:37 AM	#64 (permalink)
Bard Jameson Situationally Obtuse Contents Under Pressure Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,028 SL Join Date: 1/27/2008 Business: Lady Atia's Keep My Mood: Awards: 1	So, have they trademarked the word "second" and all its forms? I was thinking of calling my next store "Sloppy Seconds". __________________ Second Couple - Yet another SL® blog. But chock full of Atia™, an essential vitamin

03-25-2008, 01:03 AM	#68 (permalink)
Aodhan McDunnough Gearhead Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,231 Beer Tapper Gone Wild Champion! SL Join Date: March 28, 2006 Business: Aodhan's Forge SLShopper Ads: 2 My Mood:	The SL part is problematic in general but is easy to enforce if you go contextual. For example we can't argue that SL in SL Universe is not Second Life. Having been exposed to trademark rules of international organizations, not even corporations, I'm actually surprised Linden Labs took so long to handle this matter. Trademark guidelines are important so that people can clearly and easily distinguish between you (SL and LL in this case) and someone who is only associated with you (SLU, SLExchange, etc). RIght when the commercial websites sprung up LL should have supplied logos (like the InSL) and usage rules for such purpose. Truth be told, I was surprised that their logo/banner package that is downloadable from the website contained their actual official logos and trademarks and not affiliation logos (e.g. InSL). __________________ Landbots take advantage of accidents and the uninformed. They end up taking land not intended for general purchase, often ending in distress for a land seller just transfering land to a friend. We can't get rid of bots but we can stop the damage. VOTE this proposal on the Jira. Current votes: 48 http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-2905 Kontours Classic 1-prim chair. Sculpted, menu controlled http://www.sluniverse.com/php/shop/s...ct=786&cat=500

03-24-2008, 10:23 PM	#57 (permalink)
Ten Baby FIC Suck it. Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,350 SL Join Date: 10/7/2006 My Mood: Awards: 1	HI CRIS! WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS ISSUE?

03-24-2008, 10:27 PM	#59 (permalink)
Beezle Warburton Stabbity! GAH! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Darkmere Posts: 1,851 SL Join Date: October 24, 2006 Business: Cortech Enterprises SLShopper Ads: 12 My Mood:	Heh, "Shop On Rez" (aka SL Boutique) got ahead of the game on this. FIC!

03-25-2008, 12:23 AM	#63 (permalink)
WarKirby Magojiro Doing stuff Making a sword Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 2,141 SL Join Date: 14/10/2006 Business: MagoTek Industries SLShopper Ads: 1 My Mood:	Ya®®®®®

03-25-2008, 12:50 AM	#65 (permalink)
Adam Zaius Ruins everything. Cristiano's love child. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Perth, Orstraya. Posts: 2,247 SL Join Date: 9-Jan-04 Business: Azure Islands My Mood:	They cant protect SL or LL -- trademark law doesnt allow two character trademarks. Three is very difficult to pursue (you have to be a big known brand, ala IBM, Sun, etc) I dont know why they are trying to - they should know that they arent required to defend those, since they cant aquire them. Usual disclaimer: IANAL.

03-25-2008, 12:51 AM	#66 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Slept my way to the top I HATE MAYA Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 19,594 SL Join Date: 10-11-2004 Business: abstract avatars! SLShopper Ads: 13 My Mood:	heh. anal.

03-25-2008, 01:14 AM	#71 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Slept my way to the top