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Cocoanut Koala · 04-02-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ten

Fuck off, Linden Lab. Jesus christ; what a bunch of assholes.

Not to mention FULL OF THEMSELVES assholes.

Lord have mercy, I have never seen a group of people get so arrogant and snotty so fast (and over ... not much, really!).

coco

Ray Figtree · 04-02-2008, 10:30 AM

Correction. That's

pricks®

pricks®

Man I picked a bad time to launch SL Second Life Linden Lab Eye-In-Hand Clothing inc.

Jennyfur · 04-02-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

Only if you roll over and play dead. I have no intention of doing so.

How do you plan to fight a company that no longer cares about its long time residents that helped to build whatever the hell Second Life has become?

Speaking of which, Is there any other way to cash out Lindens using anything other than the Lindex? If I remember correctly, SLexchange used to... don't know if they still do. IGE sucked. Gom got GOM'ed...

Cristiano · 04-02-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennyfur

How do you plan to fight a company that no longer cares about its long time residents that helped to build whatever the hell Second Life has become?

Well one way is to not just throw up your hands and give into it and change the name. It is worth protesting and putting up a fight for. I would actually happily dump the SL name altogether as it is meaningless to me anymore. However, I am going to do it on my terms, not theirs. This site has been in compliance with their rules since its beginning in 2003, in fact I cleared the name before registering it.

Philip, Robin and others have participated in it. Torley Linden has thousands of pictures on Snapzilla. To claim now that the name is in violation is not only insulting an preposterous, but I doubt it can even stand up to legal scrutiny. It is like they came up with the two noun rule just to purposely punish existing sites. If the want to come after sites supporting them, let them do it - I certainly won't be quiet about it when they do.

Fade Languish · 04-02-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cristiano

Well one way is to not just throw up your hands and give into it and change the name. It is worth protesting and putting up a fight for. I would actually happily dump the SL name altogether as it is meaningless to me anymore. However, I am going to do it on my terms, not theirs. This site has been in compliance with their rules since its beginning in 2003, in fact I cleared the name before registering it.

Philip, Robin and others have participated in it. Torley Linden has thousands of pictures on Snapzilla. To claim now that the name is in violation is not only insulting an preposterous, but I doubt it can even stand up to legal scrutiny. It is like they came up with the two noun rule just to purposely punish existing sites. If the want to come after sites supporting them, let them do it - I certainly won't be quiet about it when they do.

A legal opinion would be interesting. I'm also not sure what the two noun distinction achieves for them, in terms of protecting their trademark.

Joshua Nightshade · 04-02-2008, 10:48 AM

The fuckwits tried to trademark "hippos."

CoyoteMomiji · 04-02-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua Nightshade

The fuckwits tried to trademark "hippos."

Joke, right?

jacqueline trudeau · 04-02-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristiano

Well one way is to not just throw up your hands and give into it and change the name. It is worth protesting and putting up a fight for. I would actually happily dump the SL name altogether as it is meaningless to me anymore. However, I am going to do it on my terms, not theirs. This site has been in compliance with their rules since its beginning in 2003, in fact I cleared the name before registering it.

Philip, Robin and others have participated in it. Torley Linden has thousands of pictures on Snapzilla. To claim now that the name is in violation is not only insulting an preposterous, but I doubt it can even stand up to legal scrutiny. It is like they came up with the two noun rule just to purposely punish existing sites. If the want to come after sites supporting them, let them do it - I certainly won't be quiet about it when they do.

First you have to get beyond the form letter response they insulted Flipper with.

Rosie Barthelmess · 04-02-2008, 11:00 AM

Everything about this bullshit "enforcement" of the "Trademark" makes the baby Jesus cry.

LL has given implied and express consent for the URLs to so many websites it's not even funny. A Linden approached me, and asked me if they could put my blog on their fan site listing.

I said, "Sure, it's http://slrosie.com."

Five minutes later, I appeared on the SL website. I didn't ask to be put there, they asked to include me.

Can't un-imply your consent, LL.

Upsetting the grassroots PR will just eliminate the grassroots PR. But they do have quite a deal going, don't they? We pay to use their borked grid and virtual world, and they pay us nothing to publicize it.

I'll be removing the words "second" and "life" from my blog header, but they can bloody well pay me for the domain that they implied consent for if they expect me to move it.

(It doesn't stand for second life rosie anyway, though, of course. I'm hosted on my friend Isadora's server, so I'm a subdomain of skatoolaki.com ... so clearly, it's SkatooLaki Rosie.)

Beau Perkins · 04-02-2008, 11:04 AM

Ok, so I have not been paying attention to this. Do I need to remove

www.secondlifenow.com

??

I really Don't care if so. I have not updated that site in over a year. This will force me to do something new.

Cristiano · 04-02-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Beau Perkins

Ok, so I have not been paying attention to this. Do I need to remove

www.secondlifenow.com

??

I really Don't care if so. I have not updated that site in over a year. This will force me to do something new.

Yes, that domain was already in violation anyway - second life has been trademarked the whole time. They just didn't do anything bout it.

Beau Perkins · 04-02-2008, 11:12 AM

Can they pay me the money I just spent last month to renew it?

Beau Perkins · 04-02-2008, 11:14 AM

My website is now going to be dedicated to

Se condli fenow.

My new brand of ass wiping paper.

Cristiano · 04-02-2008, 11:26 AM

I am least encouraged that the vast majority of blog posts seem to get it - that this SL thing especially is just a major joke, and that the response from LL has been typically stupid. I also love how frequently the new inSL logo is bashed.

Beau Perkins · 04-02-2008, 11:32 AM

Ok, well really I see nothing on the website about URLs. I don't think they can just make me stop using a URL. THe text that it leads to is all they can have some control over.

Dnate Mars · 04-02-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cristiano

I am least encouraged that the vast majority of blog posts seem to get it - that this SL thing especially is just a major joke, and that the response from LL has been typically stupid. I also love how frequently the new inSL logo is bashed.

Well, maybe if it didn't suck so badly....

Beau Perkins · 04-02-2008, 11:38 AM

Nevermind I found it.

This is OK:
DellSL.com
Dell-SL.com
DellinSL.com
SLArchitecturalDesignServices.com
SLADS.com (acronym for SL Architectural Design Services Inc.)

This is NOT OK:
DellSecondLife.com (can't use "Second Life")
Dell-SecondLife.com (can't use "Second Life")
SLArchitecture.com (must use at least two generic nouns with "SL")
SLDesign.com (only one generic noun; must use at least two)

If you've registered your own word mark or your name with two or more generic nouns as a second-level domain name, you may use "SL" or "inSL" as the subdomain or third-level domain, which is the part of the domain name before the second-level domain. You may also use "SL" or "inSL" in the URL path after your domain name. For example,

This is OK:
http://inSL.Dell.com (domain name with the Dell word mark)
http://SL.Dell.com
http://www.Dell.com/SL
http://www.Dell.com/inSL
http://inSL.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com (domain name with two generic nouns, "Design" and "Services")
http://SL.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com
http://www.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com/SL
http://www.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com/inSL

No Trademark or Business-Name Registration. Never

Cristiano · 04-02-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau Perkins

Ok, well really I see nothing on the website about URLs. I don't think they can just make me stop using a URL. THe text that it leads to is all they can have some control over.

Beau, your domain has always been in violation. You can't use trademarked names in a domain name, and second life is trademarked, and was at the time you registered the domain.

Beau Perkins · 04-02-2008, 11:43 AM

Hmmm, so what can I do with this URL? There must be something creatvie I cant get into legal trouble for.

CoyoteMomiji · 04-02-2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau Perkins

Hmmm, so what can I do with this URL? There must be something creatvie I cant get into legal trouble for.

Nothing I can see, sorry.

Cristiano · 04-02-2008, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau Perkins

04-02-2008, 10:30 AM	#227 (permalink)
Ray Figtree All good things One love. One heart. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,197 SL Join Date: 5/13/2006 My Mood:	Correction. That's pricks® pricks® Man I picked a bad time to launch SL Second Life Linden Lab Eye-In-Hand Clothing inc. __________________ Eckhart Tolle/Pema Chodron in '08! Pema's Platform Offline pursuing RL dreams. Try not to miss me. Last edited by Ray Figtree; 04-02-2008 at 10:37 AM.

04-02-2008, 11:00 AM	#234 (permalink)
Rosie Barthelmess Lounge of Dreams Manager Daman's girl Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rosadora, Holland Posts: 752 SL Join Date: May 6, 2007 My Mood:	Everything about this bullshit "enforcement" of the "Trademark" makes the baby Jesus cry. LL has given implied and express consent for the URLs to so many websites it's not even funny. A Linden approached me, and asked me if they could put my blog on their fan site listing. I said, "Sure, it's http://slrosie.com." Five minutes later, I appeared on the SL website. I didn't ask to be put there, they asked to include me. Can't un-imply your consent, LL. Upsetting the grassroots PR will just eliminate the grassroots PR. But they do have quite a deal going, don't they? We pay to use their borked grid and virtual world, and they pay us nothing to publicize it. I'll be removing the words "second" and "life" from my blog header, but they can bloody well pay me for the domain that they implied consent for if they expect me to move it. (It doesn't stand for second life rosie anyway, though, of course. I'm hosted on my friend Isadora's server, so I'm a subdomain of skatoolaki.com ... so clearly, it's SkatooLaki Rosie.) __________________ No need to complicate, our time is short -- this is our fate, I'm yours . Trout Rated: 7.0 "You are evidence that a woman who is comfortable in her own skin has a definite advantage over those who are not." Rosie Barthelmess, Manager & House DJ Lounge of Dreams, Trapper (213, 37, 318) "Have a nice day, unless you've made other plans." http://rosiebarthelmess.com-- my blog thingamabobber. LONGEST SIGNATURE EVAR.

04-02-2008, 10:48 AM	#231 (permalink)
Joshua Nightshade Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 22,224 SL Join Date: 10-11-2004 Business: abstract avatars! SLShopper Ads: 16 My Mood:	The fuckwits tried to trademark "hippos."

04-02-2008, 11:04 AM	#235 (permalink)
Beau Perkins Banned Every forum needs rational people Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 5,546 SL Join Date: 12/24/2003 My Mood:	Ok, so I have not been paying attention to this. Do I need to remove www.secondlifenow.com ?? I really Don't care if so. I have not updated that site in over a year. This will force me to do something new.

04-02-2008, 11:12 AM	#237 (permalink)
Beau Perkins Banned Every forum needs rational people Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 5,546 SL Join Date: 12/24/2003 My Mood:	Can they pay me the money I just spent last month to renew it?

04-02-2008, 11:14 AM	#238 (permalink)
Beau Perkins Banned Every forum needs rational people Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 5,546 SL Join Date: 12/24/2003 My Mood:	My website is now going to be dedicated to Se condli fenow. My new brand of ass wiping paper.

04-02-2008, 11:26 AM	#239 (permalink)
Cristiano Vampirate ¡el administrador! Yaarrr ah ah ah Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 6,069 SL Join Date: Dec 2002 Business: ANOmations Blog Entries: 12 SLShopper Ads: 1 My Mood:	I am least encouraged that the vast majority of blog posts seem to get it - that this SL thing especially is just a major joke, and that the response from LL has been typically stupid. I also love how frequently the new inSL logo is bashed.

04-02-2008, 11:32 AM	#240 (permalink)
Beau Perkins Banned Every forum needs rational people Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 5,546 SL Join Date: 12/24/2003 My Mood:	Ok, well really I see nothing on the website about URLs. I don't think they can just make me stop using a URL. THe text that it leads to is all they can have some control over.

04-02-2008, 11:38 AM	#242 (permalink)
Beau Perkins Banned Every forum needs rational people Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 5,546 SL Join Date: 12/24/2003 My Mood:	Nevermind I found it. This is OK: DellSL.com Dell-SL.com DellinSL.com SLArchitecturalDesignServices.com SLADS.com (acronym for SL Architectural Design Services Inc.) This is NOT OK: DellSecondLife.com (can't use "Second Life") Dell-SecondLife.com (can't use "Second Life") SLArchitecture.com (must use at least two generic nouns with "SL") SLDesign.com (only one generic noun; must use at least two) If you've registered your own word mark or your name with two or more generic nouns as a second-level domain name, you may use "SL" or "inSL" as the subdomain or third-level domain, which is the part of the domain name before the second-level domain. You may also use "SL" or "inSL" in the URL path after your domain name. For example, This is OK: http://inSL.Dell.com (domain name with the Dell word mark) http://SL.Dell.com http://www.Dell.com/SL http://www.Dell.com/inSL http://inSL.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com (domain name with two generic nouns, "Design" and "Services") http://SL.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com http://www.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com/SL http://www.ArchitecturalDesignServices.com/inSL No Trademark or Business-Name Registration. Never

04-02-2008, 11:43 AM	#244 (permalink)
Beau Perkins Banned Every forum needs rational people Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 5,546 SL Join Date: 12/24/2003 My Mood:	Hmmm, so what can I do with this URL? There must be something creatvie I cant get into legal trouble for.