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03-07-2008, 10:32 PM
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03-08-2008, 01:17 AM
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| Nutjob   Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UK
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| Joshua - you're right. I'll promptly shutdown AFF and fully condone all treatments for autism regardless of quackery and support complete elimination of autism regardless of functioning. Treatments/help != Cure No, you haven't won the argument, you do however win more arrogant bigot points. By this stage however it seems that we are likely to go round in circles, so i'm outta here unless you have anything original to say. |
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03-08-2008, 01:18 AM
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03-08-2008, 05:08 AM
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Ingrid, your friends wee one sounds a lot like my James at that age. Although he was unable to speak, he understood most of what was said to him, and judging from him interacting with text based video games, he's been reading since he was 3. When he was 4, he was attending weekly play therapy sessions at Yorkhill (local kids hospital). He'd do the first half of the session with the therapist, the second with me under her supervision, so the work could continue at home. At no point did this therapy wander into abusiveness, if it had I'd have pulled him out of that program immediately. Currently he's 6. He talks away constantly now, albeit hard to understand at times, can dress himself with direction, and minimal assistance... reads away happily (but only when the mood takes him) Toilet training... gods, if only, LOL. Nappy changing is not fun,  . And fuck, is he a fussy eater.Ingrid, when James was first diagnosed, his prognosis was poor, we were told that he would be dependant his entire life. After a year in a specialist school now, he's made leaps and bounds, his last assessment by a doctor was excellent... we're now being told to expect a normal life for him, maybe not with a huge social aspect to it, but yes, signs say he'll be able to manage for himself, and be independent. So Ingrid, tell your friend there can be massive changes for the better. Like Gareth says though, abuses do exist, often disguised as treatments. As a parent of an autistic child, I'm glad of people like Gareth. I can see a parallel in the "anti psychiatry" movement in the 60s. People like Laing, Satz, Goffman et al fought hard against the standards of the day... If it hadn't been for what were seen as many as the extreme standpoint of these man and others, we'd still be restraining people unnecessarily within psychiatry, using ECT as a punishment, and generally treating psychiatric patients as something less than human, which was pretty much the norm, at one time. Don't think for a moment, I'm not for research into Autism. The more we know, the better. If there was a "cure" for autism, would I want it for my son... Tough question. At one point we used to treat almost everything from depression and anxiety to schizophrenia, with leucotomies. (that's lobotomies to you yanks). Yeah, sometimes it would cure them, but at the cost of making them vegetables. So it would depend on the cost to him, too high and no way. Another thing, "Autism" as a term covers such a broad range of conditions and symptoms, there will, in my opinion, never be a single cure treatment, whatever. What would I recommend a parent of an autistic child to do then? Love your kid, for who he/she is regardless of their problems... Be patient, tolerant, gentle. Educate yourself. Be their advocate as best you can. Fuck, I'm probably not expressing any of this very well. Lets just say this... When you have a kid without autism, who tells you to "fuck off" at 5, you're pissed at them. When you have a kid who's autistic who does the same you're proud that they're expressing themselves, especially if the year before they weren't talking. I'm rambling, I'll shut up. Oh.. here's a picture of the wee tyke  Last edited by Lucifer Baphomet; 03-08-2008 at 05:18 AM. | ||
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03-08-2008, 06:18 AM
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