Tiffy Vella

What are they? What is best to allow the most freedom for visitors, yet most protection from unwanted activities? Is object entry good, or bad? Do we allow build, with a quick return time, or not? What do you wish your neighbours would do?

Not linking this to any particular posts in any forum, but I've been rethinking my land settings recently, and wonder what best practise is.

Sredni Eel

I have a small bit of land dedicated to rezzing, and it has a one minute auto return. I believe it has a maximum of three prims allotted and I use two of those prims for the sign stating "this is where you can rez prims".

If you try to drag something from that little plot to the rest of the store, the settings in my store won't allow it. I have voice restricted to the parcel, and building and terraforming turned off. Flying is allowed because it's kind of silly to disallow it.

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Drew Bhalti

no object entry+1 min auto return, should do well

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Ayesha Lytton

Create objects - Group, or All with autoreturn from 1-5 minutes. I generally keep rezzing off as griefers can cause trouble even with a short auto-return.
Object Entry - Group. No good reason to allow it.
Scripts - All
Allow Public Access - yes. Ban lines are evil. Use a security orb if you must.

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NeoBokrug Elytis

I tend to leave everything on for everyone; fly, build, object entry, run scripts. However I have a 15 minute auto-return. I leave pushing off and terraforming off, and allow people to see each other across parcels. I also restrict gesture and object sounds to the parcel, and leave voice on -- but not restricted to the parcel. And of course public access.

This way people have the most freedoms, and auto-return cleans up after leftover things. On occasion though it does require you to deal with a griefer or two. Simply setting auto-return to 1 during an event like that has a great impact on your cleanup ability.

On the other hand I'm also armed with estate tools in-case normal land tools aren't enough.

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Darien Caldwell

Really depends on your own preferences. Expect a lot of different answers.

I personally leave build and object entry on, and have a return time of 30-45 minutes. That gives customers enough time to do things, and means any griefer spam will get cleaned up should it ever happen and I'm not around (which for me is maybe once a year).

People who are in highly griefed areas would probably think those settings suicidal.

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NeoBokrug Elytis

Vehicles?

Aribeth Zelin

I have like 10 minutes for my store, no object entry [I'm pretty sure], and auto-return. Mostly because I figure if someone buys something from me and needs to....you know, I feel dumb - my marketplace stuff is in a bag you wear and click, and my store has stuff sent in a folder not a box - tomorrow I'm just going to turn off create too, I don't need it.

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Tiffy Vella

I knew I'd get liquorice allsorts for answers from you mob, haha.

Sredni...I can see that you have maximum control over yours, as it's all store, perhaps? You aren't taking any chances! Nor is Drew. I'd do similar if my land was pure business, but it's mixed use.

Ayesha..I agree re the banlines. They are evil. I like your group-allowed ideas.

Neo and Darien....you are doing things the same way I am (although I'm mainland with no estate powers, so I make auto return 1 min.)

Aribeth...I can see you also come from the commercial viewpoint. I once went to the trouble of parcelling off a bit of land to make a rezz zone for customers (when my land was group-rezz only), then realised that all my boxes were set to sell contents.

Living on mainland, with mixed use land (ie a ground level that I like to keep open for all polite visitors, with store above), I like to try to keep perms open. I know what it's like to want to rezz a vehicle/bike/horse to ride off on, or pass through on, but wonder if I'm leaving myself open to trouble.

Amity Slade

One of the things to consider also is how available you are to monitor your land. If you are more available to check up on things, you can be a little more permissive; if you can't log in every day or check up on things very frequently, then you probably want to be more restrictive.

Sredni Eel

Yes, my land is all store (apart from my building platform which is high enough up that people get bored before they are able to fly up to it.

I keep building turned off, mainly because I'm lazy and don't feel like cleaning up after people all the time. I see notices in a couple of hunt groups asking people to please clean up after themselves. It kind of bugs me that people are so inconsiderate that they wouldn't pick up boxes after opening them. So I just nip that in the bud right away.

Lewis Luminos

My land is mainland and residential only but I have a dock on the shore and I don't mind people using it to rez boats if they want to. So I allow build, script and object entry with a 30 minute autoreturn. I've never been griefed and I've never had to clean up after anyone.

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Imnotgoing Sideways

Full perms, no terraform, group land, and a 480min autoreturn work fine for me. (^_^)

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Menchor Barbosa

YMMV but I have mainland with terraform turned off and everything else turned on. I don't even have autoreturn on, but I do check the prim count and if there are more than I remember I investigate. I occasionally have someone who decides to move in and I set a couple of prims through the skybox, it usually disappears shortly there after. I do check and I am on almost every day, and so far that has been sufficient.

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Aribeth Zelin

Well, I have some mainland land I live on, and ts set build only for group, who owns the land, and is me and alts and a couple of friends and their alts. So, its not an issue.

Tiffy Vella

I appreciate all your responses, and I guess this is a hard topic to get a single discerning answer on. I used to have build off and object entry off (for non group), and got really tired of seeing crashed vehicles right next door, on my boundary. So I've turned them all on, so hopefully all those miscreants' vehicles will pass through so I can either wave them through, or return them.

bronxelf

on Cursed:
rezzing and object entry: group only. No autoreturn. (the group is invite only- it's not open.)

fly: group only. (yes, i know you can get around this. Most people don't know how- turning it off cuts down on my hassle.)

parcel privacy: if anyone who lives on cursed wants parcel privacy, I give it to them. No questions asked. Voice is off, everywhere (I fucking hate public voice chat. hate.) Sounds and gestures are always restricted to the parcel.

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On DE: rez/object entry are group only. Dare maintains a small rezzing area in his mainstore with a 5 minute autoreturn (it might be 3 minutes, I haven't used it in ages.) Fly is, I believe, on. Voice is definitely off. Gestures and sounds are limited to the parcel. Parcel privacy is off.


(bear in mind, we are not on mainland, so there's none of the issues you're having to worry about. )
I believe he has EH set up the same way as DE, though he may have fly off, there.

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Lupo Ellison

Usually I own water plots near linden ocean, so I use to allow build and object entry, with 15 min autoreturn. In this way visitors and neighbours can rez their boats and start the navigation from my dock, or reach their dock by navigating trough my land.
Many residents do the same, along the coasts, and I think it is a gentlemen agreement for a better Second Life.

I never used to set up protection barriers, in 6 years in SL.

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Jopsy Pendragon

I'm pretty lax, everything but push/terraform is enabled in most of my mainland area.

Long auto-return on my official classroom sandbox areas (3-6 hours). Shorter (it varies) everywhere else.

The only area I have locked down to no-object-entry/no-script/no-build is my shop.

I don't use security gizmos, I don't use access lists... and typically I clear out my ban lists after a few days/weeks.

Isablan Neva

I have a standalone sim.

Object entry: off
Build: off
Scripts: allow all
Fly: on
Push: off
Terraform: off

It depends a lot on what you do with your land and how you want people to use it. If you have vehicles, object entry needs to stay on. If you are doing certain retail (avatar clothing/accessories) and sell boxed items, you need to leave rez on but set autoreturn to something sane. If you get griefed a lot, you may need to turn it all off....

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Cerise

The object entry flag allows vehicles to pass through, where "vehicle" is any object with seated avatars. The roadside mishaps are mostly from when the riders aren't allowed on the land. Even some Linden roads have object entry disabled.

Trinity Dejavu

Several years with a mixed public rp space, commercial and private residential regions. All land is deeded to a non public group. Everything allowed for everyone with the exception of terraform.

12 hour auto-return for stores and public areas. Make sure all tenants understand how to deed land & use auto-return.

Private parcels (personal home, skybox) can be set to prevent people seeing who's on the parcel & teleport routing blocked. (only way in is to walk/fly or use a tp pad)

Object entry and scripts are always allowed.

Generally prefer to be generous and let people do what they will, in a few years and LOT of people in and out we have had only isolated problems. The occasional jerk with a gun, one guy tried to rez blank prims over product boxes in the store. It happens, clean up and carry on.

The very worst problems have been caused by people just being assholes to each other, no check box in the land settings to disable that :/

Region ban list is very short and we empty it out every couple of months. As a rule once you boot someone they don't come back after the first failed attempt. Never felt the need to try things like redzone.

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Tiffy Vella

A thing on my wishlist; We can parcel off land (to create varied settings according to use). I wish we could also parcel it according to altitude. So ground level could be one set of permissions, mid sky could be different, and perhaps high altitudes could be another set of permissions, according to how much privacy is needed. Then we could allow unrestricted vehicles up to certain heights while stopping them flying through a shop or skybox, for example. Or build could be on at ground level to allow rezzing of toys, and at a shop level, it could be off for security and tidiness. I'm dreaming, I know