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Old 07-13-2012, 08:36 PM   #2201 (permalink)
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For someone advising others to give up so easily, you're putting up quite the fight. (O.o)
I didn't see anything in her post that said to give up "easily". She just made the point that merchants have different financial situations. Therefore, the decision to take it all the way to court isn't a black and white one for every merchant.

That being said, I appreciate Eku for putting out some real world numbers. No matter where you stand on the issue, I think the most important thing is for current and future merchants to be informed about what they are realistically getting in to when it comes to all levels of the DMCA and court process. Then, they can make the ultimate decision for themselves based on their finances and support system.
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Old 07-13-2012, 08:50 PM   #2202 (permalink)
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:00 PM   #2203 (permalink)
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Honestly dude try and and make a comment that is more than one small sentence please.

seriously, what did you fail to understand? my observation of you and your friend?

fuck off.
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:02 PM   #2204 (permalink)
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Now, how many big skin creators do you know who happen to have $20 grand lying around?
Thank you for answering my question.
The answer to yours is "about 8", after I spin and rephrase, as I feel you have done.

I also found a public example of a skin designer readily securing considerable funds for legal action: see "One Voice".

Now that I have the impression of the shop actually being larger than I first guessed, I think the loss of income, if items aren't restored, will be the bigger financial hit. Notice how that suggests someone might actually make decent money without saying it directly. I'm learning the art of subtelty but I won't have mastered it until I can spell it.
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You know, it's entirely possible Gala did nothing because she knew it was a baseless accusation and never in a million years thought that LL would take her stuff down and ban her, not because she couldn't afford it. Just my opinion.
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i think you hit the nail on the head joy.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:11 AM   #2207 (permalink)
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And the "hubris of hindsight," in one case has become a reminder for the rest of us.

The fact remains that Gala is out of work, she's dealing with an international legal battle, and all of this is something that the rest of us are watching in horror. You may find comfort in the assumption that in the end, Gala will win. But this does not negate the current suffering, stress, and money problems that she is likely experiencing.
While we are attempting to raise money to assist Gala in her future battle, one would do well not to dismiss the current atmosphere and just how much little oversights can teach the rest of us.

In short, just because the end might turn out well, doesn't mean the journey there doesn't hurt. And that is all I am explaining to you.
one thing i do hope for..is that when Gala does win this..
there is a big pain and suffering and damages settlement that gets awarded to Gala..

i hope Gala's lawyer takes notice and slams the crap out of hush with a big one counting every cent and all the current and past evidence that is happening right then and now ..from the destinations guide showing her skins being advertised by hush all the way to having a hard time paying the electric bill.
plus all the mental stress and anything that can be thought of and recorded..

if there ever were a case with major damages to a creator..this one should be poster boy for SL content creators to always look back on..
i hope Gala gets back as much as possible in all this..and then in some way shows the community that yes it is worth it in the end..
yes it is worth standing up and fighting these people that steal..
it may not be an easy road..but in the end it is worth it in more ways than one..
file a dmca and follow it through from start to finish..don't just settle for content removal..be like a tiger protecting it's zone..another tiger walks in..
run them out and don't stop until you have pounced the crap out of them letting them know they better ask next time..

i really feel we are going to see a message sent when Gala wins this thing..and i really feel that things are going to change around here..
that we may see more serious cases getting filed and fully seen through by content creators..

and that's going to send a message to those that steal..don't freaking steal or you may end up like hush..broke more ways to sunday than can be counted..

i am a big believer in what goes around comes around or karma or whatever it is..
and with so much support..this is the outcome i see and believe in when it all comes out i the wash..
content creators need to know it is worth it to stand up..
i hope that gets sent more than anything..

one thing is for sure..Gala has to really feel good about how much support there is..that has to be a big thing helping deal with something like this..


sorry i started to ramble a lot there..but i got carried away..i just think Gala is going to wear out hush when this hits the court room..and someone is gonna be nashing their teeth when it's all said and done..

i'd pay to see that fail pic..hehehehe
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:25 AM   #2208 (permalink)
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I can only assume that she's trying to get her version out there in the wider public eye before any further legal action can expose the truth. It's outrageous.

The article is entirely un-researched. Way to miss the entire substance of the story.
what i love about those things is that there is a comment section..
and where ever hush tries to trick the public..the public that has been paying attention shows up and makes the author look like they read the back of a cereal box for thier information and only reading half the box..

where ever this person goes..there they are..ready to fire off the other side..
hush only ends up looking worse every time she goes public..
i say let her advertise herself to death..just like she did in the destination guide..
the more she does it the more she gets seen for what she really is..
a crook..
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watches as the blame train runs full steam ahead...
when the tracks are clear..run wide open bebee..and blow that horn at every crossing letting everyone hear it..

waves from the middle car where the party is at..

well gotta go,,

hey no no guys..you pass to the left..it was my turn.stop bogartin!! \o/
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Hello there, Brett. You're taking in all the facts of this case I hope.



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Has there been any updates on how much money has been raised for Gala at this point?
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seriously, what did you fail to understand? my observation of you and your friend?

fuck off.
Look you´ve been in this this thread trowing one liners, and being general insulting, including acusing a poster of being someone´s alt, and beating up their kids, in the meanwhile, me, eku, chandra, and a few other people have been showing and talking about how creators can actually, not only protect themselves, but also their work, and now you´re doing the haters gonna hate thing, so honestly fuck off, or at least try and understand the difference between learning something from your mistakes and improving, or in this case others mistakes, and if you do have something to tell me to fuck off on, at least try and do it in a full sentence.

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You know, it's entirely possible Gala did nothing because she knew it was a baseless accusation and never in a million years thought that LL would take her stuff down and ban her, not because she couldn't afford it. Just my opinion.
Here is the thing Joy and why this does not work, there is due process, and laws, which we all must follow, imagine you´re driving down a street, and i hit you with my car it was my fault, but even not being your fault, you have to file up all the insurance paperwork, you need all your paperwork properly filled, it doesn´t matter if it was my fault, all the due process must be complete.
It´s that same due process that protects you when false claims are made against you.
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Look you´ve been in this this thread trowing one liners, and being general insulting, including acusing a poster of being someone´s alt, and beating up their kids, in the meanwhile, me, eku, chandra, and a few other people have been showing and talking about how creators can actually, not only protect themselves, but also their work, and now you´re doing the haters gonna hate thing, so honestly fuck off, or at least try and understand the difference between learning something from your mistakes and improving, or in this case others mistakes, and if you do have something to tell me to fuck off on, at least try and do it in a full sentence.
just how stupid do you think we are here? do you really think that no-one see's beyond the thin veneer of your thinly disguised "showing creators how to protect their work" bullshit, when in fact all you are doing is more of what your troll friend did.

please. whatever respect i had for you has long gone. you can't insult me, that would require me to give a fuck about what you say.

all you have contributed to this thread has been to cast aspersions of ineptitude on gala's part.

you have no clue what gala is going through, and yet here you are claiming she has handled things wrongly.

fuck off and make your own thread about how you would handle the theft of your work, and i will stay the fuck out of it.
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just how stupid do you think we are here? do you really think that no-one see's beyond the thin veneer of your thinly disguised "showing creators how to protect their work" bullshit, when in fact all you are doing is more of what your troll friend did.

please. whatever respect i had for you has long gone. you can't insult me, that would require me to give a fuck about what you say.

all you have contributed to this thread has been to cast aspersions of ineptitude on gala's part.

you have no clue what gala is going through, and yet here you are claiming she has handled things wrongly.

fuck off and make your own thread about how you would handle the theft of your work, and i will stay the fuck out of it.
You are going way, way, way out of line here and portraying yourself in a rather shady way. I sincerely doubt that Gala would want to be represented by her loyal followers in such a way.

Pointing out that things would have been easier if Gala had protected her stuff to begin with is not wrong in any way but a simple fact. Not doing anything when Hush counterfiled her DMCA turned out to be the wrong decision, too. So, what exactly are you raging about with your myriad of insults, fuck offs etc.?
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just how stupid do you think we are here? do you really think that no-one see's beyond the thin veneer of your thinly disguised "showing creators how to protect their work" bullshit, when in fact all you are doing is more of what your troll friend did.

please. whatever respect i had for you has long gone. you can't insult me, that would require me to give a fuck about what you say.

all you have contributed to this thread has been to cast aspersions of ineptitude on gala's part.

you have no clue what gala is going through, and yet here you are claiming she has handled things wrongly.

fuck off and make your own thread about how you would handle the theft of your work, and i will stay the fuck out of it.
Finally more than one sentence and thank you for that, do you really think i have any care at all for what respect you have for me? I´ve been on this forum for over two years, anyone who has read my posts knows that trolling is not something i do, so honestly dude, the fucks that i give to this are zero, none, nada.



Unlike you who has nothing to loose i post here under my SL name i do have my own reputation to uphold, everyone who knows me, knows how i feel about these issues, and how many times i have defended content creators here, they also knows i would not let something that i believe to be false, to slip tru. You can bury your head deep in the sand and pretend these issues don´t matter, at the end of the day this is a cautionary tale to every content creator in the grid. That makes you look bad not me, nothing i´ve said here is false, and no matter how you try and protrait it, people are not stupid.

There is an ignore button on this forum if you have any issue with what i post i advise you to use it, or if you think i am in anyway out of line please report my post to the forum owner and if cris thinks it´s out of line he will moderate acordingly, until then you can be rude and abnoxious all you want, cause honestly dude, look above nada, not one single fuck i give.

And i´m gonna ignore you´re silly one liners until you start acting and talking like a grow up.

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i didnt say you were trolling. you are a whiteant.

a better definition. http://onlineslangdictionary.com/mea...f/white-anting

after your friend fail trolled here, you waited a while before coming up with your own little piece to further undermine gala. perhaps you though no-one would remember the connection between you two, i don't know.

whatever, you failed.

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Are you completely mad? This is nothing at all like what's going on here.

I just...what??
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Quite honestly, that is something of a sweeping statement about somebody you don't know and who is a thoughtful member of SLU appreciated by a whole lot of people (and who most certainly does not fit the white ant category at all).

It takes some time to be accepted in any community, and your début here is not one of the more successful I've seen.

That is the polite version of my reply.

The less polite one?

I think you're arrogant, spiteful and a troublemaker.
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Honestly is not even worth a reply, When someone can only resort to insult instead of actually discussing a topic, or even provide helpful info, it only makes them look bad.
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...and you? You're a moron and more of a troll than anyone else here. As to the rest of your ninja edit? Look in the mirror.

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I hope you realize, your "OMG ASKING QUESTIONS IS UNDERMINING" isnt doing gala any favors.
There are questions here that are relevant to everyone here that produces content, and we **cant get those answers without asking questions**.

Im going to go over that again, because I'm using more that four words to say it, and I have seen how that confuses you:

We that produce content need to know how, if at all, we can protect ourselves against finding ourselves in this same scenario.

This information cannot be obtained without analyzing the current situation with Gala for different choices along the way that might have led to a different result.

This is not the same as blaming her- this is people trying to understand how not to get *themselves* in the same situation one day. Because everything trends in sl, it may be information we need should stunts like this become the new way to grief someone.

Now, let me repeat this again in slightly different words:

It is not blaming gala.
It is protecting themselves.

Not. The. Same. Thing.

Here's where it gets personal:

As for Ely, she is sincere and heartfelt and a valued member of this community. She's been around, hugged necks that needed hugging, spanked asses that needed spanking, and she is supportive to the bone of content creators and their rights. Same with some of the others you've emptily snarked at. I can't speak for them all, but I will be damned if you are going to sit here and get away with straight acting like a little bitch and trying to shut down the flow of useful information on my watch. Attempts to dam that flow make me wonder whose side YOU are really on.

I have sat here reading this thread and biting the hell out of my tounge watching shithead you pile one liners on every single fucking person who has OMG THE NERVE to say something that isnt sunshine and daisies and generally just trying to meet anyone with a question at 40 paces. Its not doing anyone any favors- dont you think, if everything is on the up and up here, that it can stand a little scrutiny? Especially when that scrutiny brings forward information about legal protection that can benefit anyone with IP interests in sl?

I sure do.
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I hope you realize, your "OMG ASKING QUESTIONS IS UNDERMINING" isnt doing gala any favors.
There are questions here that are relevant to everyone here that produces content, and we **cant get those answers without asking questions**.

Im going to go over that again, because I'm using more that four words to say it, and I have seen how that confuses you:

We that produce content need to know how, if at all, we can protect ourselves against finding ourselves in this same scenario.

This information cannot be obtained without analyzing the current situation with Gala for different choices along the way that might have led to a different result.

This is not the same as blaming her- this is people trying to understand how not to get *themselves* in the same situation one day. Because everything trends in sl, it may be information we need should stunts like this become the new way to grief someone.

Now, let me repeat this again in slightly different words:

It is not blaming gala.
It is protecting themselves.

Not. The. Same. Thing.

Here's where it gets personal:

As for Ely, she is sincere and heartfelt and a valued member of this community. She's been around, hugged necks that needed hugging, spanked asses that needed spanking, and she is supportive to the bone of content creators and their rights. Same with some of the others you've emptily snarked at. I can't speak for them all, but I will be damned if you are going to sit here and get away with straight acting like a little bitch and trying to shut down the flow of useful information on my watch. Attempts to dam that flow make me wonder whose side YOU are really on.

I have sat here reading this thread and biting the hell out of my tounge watching shithead you pile one liners on every single fucking person who has OMG THE NERVE to say something that isnt sunshine and daisies and generally just trying to meet anyone with a question at 40 paces. Its not anyone any favors- dont you think, if everything is on the up and up here, that it can stand a little scrutiny? Especially when that scrutiny brings forward information about legal protection that can benefit anyone with IP interests in sl?

I sure do.
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