Mariska Lysette

Yours is the site & page I have bookmarked - it's v handy, thank you

Chandra Masala

Not at all. I didn't mean from the SL fundraiser, I meant overall from all donations. So imo, people are looking at it just from the fundraiser money, and not considering *all* of the funds that have been raised from *all avenues.* And because the indiegogo campaign has what, a couple more months? It's likely she'll make a lot more. Karma is working it's magic, she's been taken care of.

Chandra Masala

Wow seriously? I just signed onto SL and got this:


[01:26] Stryker Edge: (Saved Mon Jul 23 23:10:31 2012)I hope gala phoenix sues you for defamation while she's at it.

What the fuck is this? Are other creators getting shit like this?

Player

I think tidying up your comment now is a bit late , i took it as saying Gala is maybe dishonest and not declaring all donations ..and my immediate thought when i read your comment was WOW ,why did this person even donate to one voice event when she feels like this ... nuff said

Chandra Masala

Not only did I donate, I was a creator involved who helped raised the funds with my figurative blood and sweat. Fyi, she does not have to declare all donations, and your comment about defamation? Completely uncalled for, and legally baseless.There aren't words for the lack of maturity and the insult you slung at me.

And btw, I can say anything I damn well please. Until the courts have determined either way, everyone has had the liberty of defaming Hush quite ferociously. I did nothing even remotely close to offense, and yet I'm pounced upon? Please.

Player

Excuse me i am not STRYKER , so save your accusations for the right person , what i have said on here has been my only comment ...END OF STORY

Chandra Masala

Oh, excuse me. When you replied to my question speaking for yourself from an anonymous account, it's usually assumed you're speaking for the one who committed the assholiesh act. My apologies.

Player

My account is none of your business , and i speak how i took your comment and who the fuck Stryker is i have no idea , so stop your nasty accusations

Elysium Hynes

To the creepy dude iming Chandra inworld, yes her shop was at the event, not all stores where listed, honestly people, this is as creepy as shit, if you have doubts ask them publicly, taking forum crap inworld and acusing people of not being at the event, is seriously stalky and creepy, and does neither the event or people supporting the cause any favours.

ETA: Iming me is even more creepy dude, muted, if you have anything to say do it in public.

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Chandra Masala

Well they messaged me back in world and felt the need to be really rude. As a parting gift they made a passive aggressive remark about me being sick and how "unhappy," and "bitter," it makes me. They also made a point that I sell "skins," (a skin) as though that had something to do with my comment and my participation in the event.

Classy.

Chandra Masala

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Player

File an abuse report inworld

Elysium Hynes

On what basis? There´s no AR for being creepy.

Chandra Masala

Sadly, being an asshole isn't against the ToS.

Player

No one is allowed to be abused in sl and yes they can be reported

Elysium Hynes

I wouldn´t call creepy as abusive, i rather not abuse the AR system myself.

SalStrange

From Gala's post:

"Thanks to all of you, together, between the One Voice fundraiser, direct donations, and the Indiegogo site, we have raised $24,561!"

Given Gala's statement, I do not see how your statement can be viewed *at the time it was posted* as anything other than an accusation of dishonesty. I certainly thought it was and other than the three or four people here who hug and cheer everything you say, I suspect most other people did, too.

There's nothing in your initial comment that indicates you were talking about future income. As for the rest, if you were ignorant of the fact that Gala's post specifically mentioned all avenues in regards to the total, that's a simple error on your part. The natural response to that is "oh, I misunderstood and didn't mean to imply..." But you didn't say that. You doubled down on defensive, so at best your statements and behavior are confusing to those of us that don't know you.

I don't know the person who IMed you in-world but a search of their account name you posted here shows it's from 2005, so it's not a troll account that was created to attack you, but obviously someone monitoring the thread who took your words at face value. There are a lot of people keeping track of this thread who aren't registered or only registered to interact with the community on this issue. They aren't going to know anything about your personally and have no choice but to take your words as written.

As for taking something to IMs, so long as I'm in for a penny, I'll go in for a pound. I'm sure having witnessed the bullying that has gone on in this thread by the gaggle of you, there are people who feel posting here at all would be useless. That sentiment has certainly been expressed to me by multiple parties.

Rosemaery Lorefield

Wow, you sound a little begrudged about the whole thing, that is too bad. But I think it is pretty rude to go around saying that she's pocketing money and not disclosing when you have supplied no proof of such.

Chandra Masala

Right, when someone takes SLU posts into SL and tells me that I should be sued over a misunderstanding (which, regardless of what I said is stalkerish and creepy), and Gala certainly does not need little white knights concocting issues where there are none. That does make me feel attacked and thus defensive.

And "gaggle of you," attacking people? Do people feel e-victimized by me now?

I did not read the website, I merely glanced at the group announcement, and that was my oversight. But I will not defend myself against those who seek to attack me when they have done far less than I, in monetarily and verbally supporting someone who they now claim I am attacking. If I had an issue with Gala, I wouldn't have made that sacrifice in the first place.

If there were a word that could truly sum up how fucked up that is, I'd like to know it. It's amazing how utterly cruel people can be toward those who actually gained nothing by taking their rl work and forfeiting it for someone else.

Chandra Masala

Except I didn't say that. I'd appreciate it if people actually read what I wrote and stop jumping to conclusions and making accusations against me. I think my English is pretty good, and I'm pretty sure I explained my point well enough. If others aren't getting it, there's nothing else I can do.

Rosemaery Lorefield

I'm sorry, if you didn't mean what you said, that's cool, but I quoted your words and you said that you think Gala has taken funds and not disclosed them. Maybe it's a language/semantics thing but it sounds like an accusation.

As for the creep who took this inworld, that's messed up. If ya (he) can't say something in front of everyone, don't say it at all, IMO.

SalStrange

As far as I can tell that person isn't here under their SL account name. You chose to bring it here for discussion about them. So being defensive with the people here because of a person who isn't here isn't helping to clarify.

I agree suggesting you be sued over the statement is stupid and it certainly doesn't help Gala at all. But since that person isn't the only one who took your words as stated as opposed to how you say you intended, that might be something to consider.

I think victimized is a strong word. I suspect it's more like the fruitlessness of arguing against a pack mentality.

This was all you needed to say to help people like me understand. Thank you for clarifying.


The martyr card isn't working for me and it makes you sound resentful of your participation. A lot of people helped bring this together and you have no way of knowing who participated in what way or how much. You cannot know whether or not someone has done "far less" than you.

It's fucked up you had to go through the hassle of muting someone in SL, but it's worth trying to understand how your initial statement (which read like calling Gala a liar to many of us) would upset the type of people who are feeling emotionally vulnerable over this issue.

Chandra Masala

I'm no martyr. I own my involvement and I take pride in all of my work, regardless of it's nature or it's outcome. I will not however, listen to, nor consider anyone who attacks me for any reason whatsoever over anything involving this issue as a whole.

I really have no desire to continue speaking with you about anything which involves the legalities of this case, Gala or the fundraiser. You have been smug, rude, and consistently dismissive of almost every vocal creator in this thread and I'm quite done with it.

Charlotte Bartlett

I think it's just a wording thing on the initial post. I understood the meaning once clarified.

I am so pleased Gala raised that much (and will continue to raise more). Now comes the lull whilst they prepare. I hope during that time communication continues where legally able. I think the community has vested emotionally and financially into this and hopefully we can see progress once it can be disclosed.

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LoveToSell

This directory and shopping exclusively from merchants who had items for sale at the One Voice event is something that worries me a great deal. And the whole situation has worried me since I heard about the fundraiser.

I personally dont' know who is right or wrong, since I am not the creator of either skins and really they are the only ones who know the whole honest truth.

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I have seen what verges on harrassment to merchants who were not participating in the fundraiser. Some were treated badly for not following the popular opinion and deciding to just remain neutral. I know of one store who was boycotted for not participating. So they were being punished for not feeling comfortable with joining. It has the feeling of a witch hunt.

Please do not boycott stores that did not have items for sale at the fundraiser. You dont know how many of them gave private donations to help. Many do give privately to charities or fundraisers because they dont want to be thanked. they just want to help.

So yes, say thanks if you want to stores that support causes you believe in. But please do not boycott ones that you think do not. No one should be persecuted for their opinions.