What Does Exclusive Mean to You? - SLUniverse Forums
Navigation » SLUniverse Forums > Virtual World Discussion > General SL Discussion » What Does Exclusive Mean to You?


General SL Discussion Discuss topics related to Second Life

 
Sponsor:
PDS HomeSecurity Orb
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-23-2012, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
SLU Fluffer
 
pancake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The True North
Posts: 3,431
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 2007
Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others

Awards: 1
The Penis Handler 
What Does Exclusive Mean to You?

Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting a teeny bit annoyed about people using the word "exclusive" when they are selling things in SL.

If it's a group exclusive, I'm thinking people who are not in the group aren't able to buy it.

If it's a holiday or event exclusive, I think that means it won't be available after the event/holiday is over.

Apparently all it mean now is... new? Sometimes not even that.

Anyone else noticing this?
Do I just have a case of the crankies?
__________________
My blog and my pictures
"It's one thing to have a difference of opinion, it is quite another to be a consistently toxic ass" ~ Cristiano
pancake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 08:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
Dat Burd

*SLU Supporter*
 
Inhandra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,374
SL Join Date: May 2006
Client: Catznip & Exodus
Blog Entries: 3
Send a message via Skype™ to Inhandra
I share your ideas about what exclusivity is intended to mean, but as I'm not a heavy shopper, I haven't noticed it being used incorrectly yet.
__________________
Inhandra is online now   Reply With Quote
1 User Said Thanks:
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 08:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Kokoro Fasching's Avatar
Watering a Shoe
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Where I lay down my head
Posts: 1,061
My Mood:
It is exclusive between me, and anyone who may come into SL, or has been in SL, or may come into SL, or who may ask me for a copy on another grid, or another reality.

If you aren't from any of those, then you can't get it - so it is very exclusive..

Kokoro Fasching is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 08:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
Mad Metaphysician
 
Elric's Avatar
mostly harmless, do not take seriously
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Syzygy
Posts: 109
My Mood:
SL Join Date: Feb-2007
Business: Alkahest
Client: Firestorm
SL really does mimic RL... even in marketing.

Many businesses misrepresent. The more profit oriented, often the more latitude is given with respect to the abuse of terminology in marketing. And some people simply don't understand what certain terms mean.

Sometimes I call people on their tactics but usually not (it's enough for me to just acknowledge the asshattery in my mind and move on). I just recognize that people are what they are and I trust almost no one.

I apologize if I sound jaded, but integrity and business are two words that are almost (not entirely, mind) mutually exclusive concepts no matter what world we're in. At least that's been my experience.

And... /me waves hi
__________________
Elric Anatine

Syzygy Community: Estate Manager, Conflict Resolution, SyzAdminFox
Apothecary, Physic Garden & Personal Lands: open to the public

Alkahest Sky Shoppe: my eclectic creations (lamps, furnishings, tentacles, foliage)
Marketplace: my online shoppe

flickr: my flickr pics
Elric is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Said Thanks:
Old 04-23-2012, 08:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
Mad Metaphysician
 
Elric's Avatar
mostly harmless, do not take seriously
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Syzygy
Posts: 109
My Mood:
SL Join Date: Feb-2007
Business: Alkahest
Client: Firestorm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokoro Fasching View Post
It is exclusive between me, and anyone who may come into SL, or has been in SL, or may come into SL, or who may ask me for a copy on another grid, or another reality.

If you aren't from any of those, then you can't get it - so it is very exclusive..

heh heh. perspective, yes indeed.
Elric is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 09:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
Bit Fishy
 
Ana Stubbs's Avatar
Swimming around
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: UK
Posts: 139
My Mood:
SL Join Date: Jan 2007
Client: Firestorm
Quote:
Originally Posted by pancake View Post
Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting a teeny bit annoyed about people using the word "exclusive" when they are selling things in SL.

If it's a group exclusive, I'm thinking people who are not in the group aren't able to buy it.

If it's a holiday or event exclusive, I think that means it won't be available after the event/holiday is over.

Apparently all it mean now is... new? Sometimes not even that.

Anyone else noticing this?
Do I just have a case of the crankies?
Nope - I was disappointed to find something that I specifically bought then and there because it was a Vintage Fair "exclusive" available for sale at the creator's shop months after the event.

I figured I must have misunderstood what the term meant.
Ana Stubbs is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Said Thanks:
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 09:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,213
SL Join Date: Jan 2007
I had a misunderstanding like this over the word 'exclusive' with a GF once. It didn't end well.

bubblesort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 09:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
Maestra de Sombras
 
IsaDaft Trollop's Avatar
Watches and waits...
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: So. CA
Posts: 1,752
My Mood:
SL Join Date: Feb. 12, 2006
Send a message via Yahoo to IsaDaft Trollop Send a message via Skype™ to IsaDaft Trollop
Quote:
Originally Posted by bubblesort View Post
I had a misunderstanding like this over the word 'exclusive' with a GF once. It didn't end well.

What I thought this thread was about.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khamon View Post
There are many unanswered question in the House of Siggy.
IsaDaft Trollop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 09:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Stacey Farspire's Avatar
Stuffing 'Gother Than Thou' where the sun don't shine.
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 12
My Mood:
SL Join Date: Nov. 2009
I'm kinda guilty of this.

I've made items in colors/styles that were only available through either a mania board or hunts and would put 'exclusive' on the ad picture. And for a while, that was true. I never intended for them to be put on regular sale once the hunt was over or the board switched out. But then I decided to put both in their own separate gacha machines. So technically they are for sale, even though they say exclusive and there's the gacha randomness of getting said item you want.

I could just as easily mark the ads as "Made for..." instead of "[Mania/___ Hunt] Exclusive", but no one's complained about it. Does it bother people that much?
Stacey Farspire is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Hugged You:
Old 04-23-2012, 09:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
Solace Beach Owner

*SLU Supporter*
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
Posts: 1,112
Business: Solace Beach Estates
Client: Singularity
I assume exclusive means "for the duration of the event", not forever. I've been really disappointed a few times when I went to go buy something that I saw someone wearing only to find it was a limited item. From a business perspective, in SL, it doesn't make sense to limit anything when you can sell copies forever. It's a waste of the time invested in making the item. The best strategy is to make it free/cheap for a short time, get lots of them out there, then raise the price, and profit as people see it around and come to the store to get their own.
__________________
Solace Beach Estates: Beautiful Residential & Commercial Land for All Budgets!
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Solace%20Beach/193/48/23
Ayesha Lytton is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 09:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
SLU Fluffer
 
pancake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The True North
Posts: 3,431
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 2007
Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others

Awards: 1
The Penis Handler 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacey Farspire View Post
Does it bother people that much?
It does bother me a little bit yes.

If it's something I want to buy anyway, no big deal.

However, if I'm buying something specifically with the understanding that it won't be available later, or won't be all over the feeds and grid, then I'd feel a bit cheated if it were.

Especially if it's a paid group exclusive. If I paid to join a group so that I could get group only colors or styles, and then saw those same ones readily available, I'd feel a bit let down by the creator and would keep that in mind for future purchases.

I do realize it's not always intentional. Time passes, creators think it's ok to put it out and don't mean any harm. I really don't think most are purposeful, we just have different understanding of the term.

I walked around a certain fair tonight and noticed that almost every store had "exclusives", some more than half their items were marked that way. I suspect we'll be seeing many of those in their regular stores very soon so it seems a little misleading to me to mark them that way because people interpret that term differently.
pancake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 09:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
SLU Fluffer
 
pancake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The True North
Posts: 3,431
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 2007
Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others

Awards: 1
The Penis Handler 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayesha Lytton View Post
From a business perspective, in SL, it doesn't make sense to limit anything when you can sell copies forever. It's a waste of the time invested in making the item.
I agree, but why advertise it as exclusive then?
pancake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 10:01 PM   #13 (permalink)
I see what you're doing!
 
Sally Rosebud's Avatar
Whatcha lookin' at?
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Southeast US
Posts: 309
My Mood:
SL Join Date: April 18, 2005
Client: Firestorm
Send a message via Skype™ to Sally Rosebud
I like limited edition items better than exclusive items, less people will have them!
Sally Rosebud is online now   Reply With Quote
1 User Disagreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 10:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
SLU Fluffer
 
pancake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The True North
Posts: 3,431
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 2007
Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others

Awards: 1
The Penis Handler 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sally Rosebud View Post
I like limited edition items better than exclusive items, less people will have them!
I do too, but that's probably where my mistake is.
To me, the meaning of exclusive should be very similar to limited edition.

It might not have a set number of copies, but it has a set time frame or group only on requirement to purchase.
pancake is offline   Reply With Quote
4 Users Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 10:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Stacey Farspire's Avatar
Stuffing 'Gother Than Thou' where the sun don't shine.
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 12
My Mood:
SL Join Date: Nov. 2009
Some of it might be popular demand, at least in the case of fairs. A merchant might originally plan to not sell it again, but might get so many requests for it later that they decide to cash in on that demand. I agree that this might miff people who want something relatively unique to the grid, who take pride in having something others can't get for themselves.

In my case, it'd just be a matter of going back and changing wording on a couple dozen ads. Some early ones would have to be redone entirely, since I stupidly didn't save the source files but that's no one's fault but mine. But that'll have to wait until I have the other major projects—including an upcoming fair and repackaging my entire stock—off my plate.

So until then, I apologize on behalf of me everywhere for not making my 'exclusive' items truly exclusive.
Stacey Farspire is offline   Reply With Quote
3 Users Hugged You:
Old 04-23-2012, 10:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
SLU Fluffer
 
pancake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The True North
Posts: 3,431
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 2007
Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others

Awards: 1
The Penis Handler 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stacey Farspire View Post
So until then, I apologize on behalf of me everywhere for not making my 'exclusive' items truly exclusive.
Awwwwwww!

As I said before, I really don't think most of it is purposeful false advertising. Just a misunderstanding of what the term means or a change in circumstances later down the road.

If it happened to me once, or a dozen times, I'd let it go but it's happening to me weekly now if not more so I had to ask if anyone else was noticing it, or if others have a different understanding of the term.

It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong!
pancake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 10:40 PM   #17 (permalink)
SLU Fluffer
 
pancake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: The True North
Posts: 3,431
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 2007
Client: Usually Catznip but I dabble a lot in others

Awards: 1
The Penis Handler 
A good example are LAP's exclusive poses at Pose Fair.

She has a sign specifically saying

Quote:
[LAP] has all exclusive, all new releases. None of these releases will be sold outside of Pose Fair ever again. This also happens to be the last release from Long Awkward Pose as I wrap up my last year as a creator in Second Life. I will go into more detail at a later date, but for now just thank you for three great years at Pose Fair and five great years as a Poser!
To me, that's exclusive. They are also awesome poses

Now if 10 other people are marketing poses as "exclusive" but they fully intend to have them available in their store at the same price once the fair closes... I don't understand why they are using that term. I'd probably buy them anyway, so would many people, but it can be confusing.
pancake is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Users Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 10:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
You look tasty.
 
Beezle Warburton's Avatar
Beeble Bubble Bimbo and Griffer Alt but not a Dog Chewy
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 11,202
My Mood:
SL Join Date: October 24, 2006
Client: Frestorm, Imprudence
Blog Entries: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by pancake View Post
Maybe it's just me, but I'm getting a teeny bit annoyed about people using the word "exclusive" when they are selling things in SL.
I'm a bit numb to misuse of the word thanks to "AS SEEN ON TV."

ONCE IN A LIFETIME OFFER!

FREE SET OF GINSU CUTLERY!

Etc.

Now, to me, one of the meanings of "exclusive" is "poorly made, over-priced, mass-manufactured rubbish."
__________________


SL easily allows you to accidentally your entire pants. -- Adeon Writer
Beezle Warburton is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Users Laughed:
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 11:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
Senior Member

*SLU Supporter*
 
Aliselia Aeon's Avatar
Stolen Child
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Here
Posts: 12,507
My Mood:
SL Join Date: October 27, 2007
Client: at the moment, Nirans
Blog Entries: 3
Quote:
1 very expensive, and therefore available only to people who have a lot of money
an exclusive shop/restaurant/neighbourhood

2 limited to a particular person, thing, or group and not shared with others
The road is for the exclusive use of residents.
They have exclusive rights to market the drug in Africa.
exclusive to: This special offer is exclusive to readers of this magazine.

3 published or reported by only one newspaper, magazine, television station etc
She managed to secure an exclusive interview with the star.
exclusive - definition of exclusive by Macmillan Dictionary

To me, it would mean available only at a certain event, or store. Unfortunately not all people will have the same understanding of a word. Also, sometimes people are just lazy when it comes to using proper terms. I would probably (if I were the merchant) say something like "Available exclusively at...*insert event or store, etc*, in order to make it more clearly understood.

I think one has to keep in mind that there are many in SL for which English is not their first language. That helps to complicate things.
__________________
"Push 100cc of Social Skills, stat!" ~Casey Pelous
Aliselia Aeon is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 11:03 PM   #20 (permalink)
Senior Member

*SLU Supporter*
 
Aliselia Aeon's Avatar
Stolen Child
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Here
Posts: 12,507
My Mood:
SL Join Date: October 27, 2007
Client: at the moment, Nirans
Blog Entries: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beezle Warburton View Post
I'm a bit numb to misuse of the word thanks to "AS SEEN ON TV."

ONCE IN A LIFETIME OFFER!

FREE SET OF GINSU CUTLERY!

Etc.

Now, to me, one of the meanings of "exclusive" is "poorly made, over-priced, mass-manufactured rubbish."
The word is definitely overused.
Aliselia Aeon is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Users Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 11:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
*blink*

*SLU Supporter*
 
Soen Eber's Avatar
don't need status
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
Posts: 3,366
My Mood:
I think I found it in "Kingdon's Dictionary of Non-Actionable Words" c 2010, Hubble Law Publishing, between "Exciting" and "Executive":

Quote:

Exciting adj \ik-ˈsī-tiŋ\ Quality Assurance testing crowd-sourced from customer complaints.

Exclusive adj \iks-ˈklü-siv, -ziv\ 1. Limited availability subject to arbitrary condition. 2. 90% prob spam keyword.

Executive adj \ig-ˈze-k(y)ə-tiv, -kyü-\ Too shoddy to make in Taiwan or China, try Vietnam or Philippines.

Free adv \ˈfrē\ Actionable word: Usage is not recommended.

Soen Eber is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 11:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
ガンバレ日本

*SLU Supporter*
 
eku Zhong's Avatar
rotisserie compulsive
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: 田舎
Posts: 11,156
My Mood:
SL Join Date: 9/29/2007
Business: Culprit
Client: LL beta
exclusive should mean just that....
but like a lot of things in SL .. i think ppl just bandy about words because it makes their otherwise banal whatever seem more desirable...
its a pet peeve of mine..

but theres an awful lot of stuff that isnt exclusive or goth .. or zen.. or original or ...sheesh pick the word .. and i bet its misused somewhere
__________________
Culprit Blog * Culprit Store
eku Zhong is offline   Reply With Quote
2 Users Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 11:37 PM   #23 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Ingrid's Avatar
selling meth in heisenburg's territory
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,607
SL Join Date: May 2004

Awards: 1
Posting While Intoxicated 
not much
Ingrid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2012, 11:40 PM   #24 (permalink)
You look tasty.
 
Beezle Warburton's Avatar
Beeble Bubble Bimbo and Griffer Alt but not a Dog Chewy
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 11,202
My Mood:
SL Join Date: October 24, 2006
Client: Frestorm, Imprudence
Blog Entries: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by eku Zhong View Post
exclusive should mean just that....
but like a lot of things in SL .. i think ppl just bandy about words because it makes their otherwise banal whatever seem more desirable...
its a pet peeve of mine..

but theres an awful lot of stuff that isnt exclusive or goth .. or zen.. or original or ...sheesh pick the word .. and i bet its misused somewhere
Neko.
Beezle Warburton is offline   Reply With Quote
1 User Agreed:
Old 04-23-2012, 11:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Ingrid's Avatar
selling meth in heisenburg's territory
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,607
SL Join Date: May 2004

Awards: 1
Posting While Intoxicated 
buy my "exclusive" prefabs
Ingrid is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On