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Old 04-16-2012, 08:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Monkey Wonder maker of Voodoo decides to threaten people

Got an interesting notecard yesterday, surprised that nobody has posted about this yet since everyone in the Green Zone group got it. Evidently Monkey Wonder has decided that we are a griefing group and that he is gearing all of his products to attack us verbally if we get within range. Here is a copy of his threatening notecard below.

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Dear Greenzone griefing group member,

Following mass defamation, griefing, propoganda, scamming and false abuse reports initiated by members of Greenzone griefing group recently on a scale never before seen in SL, Voodoo has taken the decision to protect our customers and other residents of Second Life from your activities.

Greenzone once had a legitimate purpose in Second Life, protecting the privacy of residents from systems such as Red Zone.
Red Zone is long gone, and Greenzone now operates more like the Anonymous hacking collective. The moderators have lost control, and the group is now a leaderless organisation that anyone with a grudge can join to attack others in the name of Greenzone.

Voodoo produces an extremely popular free Sploder tracking HUD which is owned by thousands and used everyday by many people, we have a user base of over 40,000 avatars. The next version of these HUDs, to be released imminently, will announce any nearby Greenzone griefers in local chat by name, along with any land owned by these griefers and any objects created by them. We believe your creations and land are not safe as you are a member of a group well known for griefing.

We do however understand that there is a minority of legitimate business owners currently in the griefing group, who joined long before Greenzone was hijacked by trouble makers. Due to this, we are allowing 12 hours for you to leave the group and avoid any damage to your business.

Voodoo has been at the forefront of SL security for many years and we take it and peoples privacy very seriously.
We do not wish to become ememies of any group, but we simply cannot tolerate people who choose to attack or scam others.

Thank you for your understanding and please make the right decision.

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Old 04-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have they also told their customers to expect a flood of ARs once they attach the update?
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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So everyone that got the nc files an ar with the nc open in view with screenshot attached under defamation.

Or don't.

This paranoid security orb salesman horse shit gets really old after a while.

And Psyke rules the security biz anyway. I'm surprised the duffasses have not attacked Psyke.
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And to be banned from lots of places, 'cos I can't imagine many venues particularly wanting that sort of spammy drama.
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Have they also told their customers to expect a flood of ARs once they attach the update?
Most likely not. Although once he sent out this notecard there were a flood of AR's against him sent in. Also if you look at this feedback on his Sploder on the marketplace there are several in there complaining how he never does any customer service or responds to IM's. Even a couple that say he did respond and was abusive and rude.
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also sploders are not allowed anyway so a hundred people can get the sploder hud and go around mass aring gambling venues that will simply cease to exist.
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This paranoid security orb salesman horse shit gets really old after a while.

And Psyke rules the security biz anyway. I'm surprised the duffasses have not attacked Psyke.
If I recall correctly Psyke also has a lot of customers because he is well liked. I believe (it's been a while) that during the whole RZ drama when people started getting paranoid about every security system he was one of the ones who had no problems explaining everything about his, how it worked and had nothing to hide.
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also sploders are not allowed anyway so a hundred people can get the sploder hud and go around mass aring gambling venues that will simply cease to exist.
Sploders are allowed. As long as they don't have a random number generator script as part of them. voodoo is a good company that has served the grid well for years. He seems to just be having a hissy fit about something. I think he will re-think what he plans on doing when he calms down and digests the feedback.
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Sploders are allowed. As long as they don't have a random number generator script as part of them. voodoo is a good company that has served the grid well for years. He seems to just be having a hissy fit about something. I think he will re-think what he plans on doing when he calms down and digests the feedback.
back during the rz episode you were not so pleased about privacy invasive shitheads.
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Voodoo looks very dirty to me. First of all, they are selling the product for too low a price, which looks fishy. This makes me think that they are interested in collecting as much user data as possible and exploiting that data for revenue.

Second of all, they claim that they use human tracking to discover alts and bots, but then say it is hard for them to tell the difference between two users sharing a connection and one user with two accounts running. They are obviously relying heavily on IP tracking and they don't want to admit it. No 700L product can support enough staff to do human tracking for 40k avatars. That is a ridiculous claim.

In short, I think they are lying, and anybody holding that much data and lying about things is an incredibly bad sign. IDK if they are Mike Prime bad but it would not surprise me if they were. They are not looking out for their customers when they are willing to spam customers with political messages like this.

IDK about green zone. To be honest I haven't personally had any good experiences with them but on the other hand that was probably my own fault. I thought Green Zone folded though. What have you guys been up to?
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This guy sounds like a douchenozzle, but unlike Red Zone, you have to opt in to the sploder by clicking it and registering in some way. If he asks for consent before collecting your IP address, I don't see how that's illegal. If you don't want to do that you can simply not play the sploder.
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Kinda makes me want to join the group again, just so I can see how this pans out. I hope y'all will paste any intersting conversational bits here for the rest of us!
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Kinda makes me want to join the group again, just so I can see how this pans out. I hope y'all will paste any intersting conversational bits here for the rest of us!
How about the response from one of the GZ mods to Monkey Wonder?

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Dear members of the GZ group!

Recently I have revisited the Voodoo products, and to my positive surprise I noticed that Monkey Wonder has in fact adapted many privacy features and thereby relieved a lot of the concerns regarding privacy that were the reasons for this group to fight against the products.

Therefor, I personally contacted Monkey Wonder and we agreed that I should give him a list of the remaining few items that we think were still in violation of privacy. Were those addressed, we would be happy to clear Voodoo products from our "Bad" list. Our talk ended cordially in a truce.

HOWEVER!

Only a week after this talk, before I was finished compiling this list, members of the Greenzone group are receiving a blackmail: "leave GZ group within 12 hours or you, your items, and your creations will be blacklisted"

I personally feel betrayed! We as the GZ group have pride!

And we will not bow to blackmail!

The GZ group is no griefer group! Therefor, I would like to suggest that everyone of you who is subject to the blackmail of Monkey Wonder, AR him, and whoever is subject to his announced griefing in local chat, AR the person owning the offending device.

Monkey Wonder, consider our talks cancelled. You have shown that you are no man of honour, but instead a blackmailing criminal.

For GZ,

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How about the response from one of the GZ mods to Monkey Wonder?
It's delicious, and quite telling! He seems a bit like an angry nerd with delusions of grandeur, to 180 like that after talks.
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This is some funny shit.

He is self destructing his business over GZ? Ahahahaha what an idiot, people are going to drop his products like a lead balloon when they start abusing their customers.

If I paid for and used his products I would also be concerned that the moron is using me in some kind of dick wars game.
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Griefers like to take over abandoned groups and hide behind the group's old charter and go about wrecking havoc. That may be what the owner of voodoo company is experiencing. He did mention the group seems not to have any leaders. I don't think that group has much to do now that the RZ outrage is yesterday's news.
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But if you have met with griefers in a group, surely sending out a message like that is akin to pressing the "light fuse" button

I'm thinking he got fed up trying to amend his products so GZ stopped flagging them and threw a little nerd rage. Thinking he could win a war of the scripts or something.

Either way, this isn't going to end well....
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A little bit more info about his system: Voodoo Anti-Bot Security System - Protect your games and contests from thieves and scammers in Second Life

Read very carefully.
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sounds like TOS violation to me.
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Oh boy this guy as so many issues, AR every device that calls you anything in public, i just think he´s on a path of self desctruction tbh, and enjoys the negative attention. The few interaction i´ve seen with either him or people who used is products where laughable, this dude has douche turned up to max, and was using RZ tactics before the TOS banned it.
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is it tracking alts in a database and sharing the data with other residents?
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