Errafel Eccleston

Where is the blog post again? I'd like to see the trail of evidence showing hostnames/UUIDs of the requests/objects/owners.
I mean anyone doing investigations into attacks probably has these sitting away in notepad or something.

Innula Zenovka

I think he did have convincing evidence but the dog ate it.

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bladyblue

So you believe he just woke up one day and just targeted GZ and fabricated a reason to do it.

Maybe someone at GZ will take their role seriously and look into it.

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Tyabela

Actually I was thinking that if he actually did have evidence of a DOS attack he would be contacting LL for RL info on the perps and filing legal action...not blogging about it.

DOS attacks are a serious RL crime. And making allegations that folks are perpetrating them is not something to be played with.

Errafel Eccleston

Anyway, unless his servers are running on a commodore 64 even a few hundred people with scripted objects wouldn't put much of a dent on the server's performace.
There's a number of limitations put into place on things like httprequest that make it completely useless for brute force attacks.
For shits & giggles, go tell me which sim I did a small test from. (Sim IP is 216.82.27.40)

Bonus points if you can tell me which object in the sim I did the httprequest test with.

Unya Tigerfish

Don't forget he has obviously also been griefed by all those inactive GZ members who haven't been logged in months.

Hm, I am too lazy to double check, but checking the memberlist of GZ against his griefer list would give as difference nicely the list of all his moles and alts and friends in the group...

bladyblue

That's right Unya, keep it coming. Snark it up. You have great leadership qualities. All of those people joining GZ just to get on a ban list are following your lead perfectly.

Beetle Nansen

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Errafel Eccleston

$1000L if someone can name the sim.
It shouldn't be that hard, even monkeys can do it!

Joshua Nightshade

Another alt, Lias?

ETA: You deleted the post, so I guess that answers my question about it.

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Ceka Cianci

i think he missed that the group didn't give him the attention that JLU and RZ got..so he had to get our attention somehow..so he made this notecard and sent it to each and everyone of us..
just cause he was getting lonely..that and his business IS hurting..
he wants this to become a big deal..

the sad thing for him his..he will never reach the JLU or zfire fame..
clubs are kind of what use his products..wow those are really taking over the grid with a storm..the ones i know don't use it..and they are pretty crowded popular clubs..

as much as i shop i think i may have come passed one voodoo warning..the reason i forgot about it was that the merchant took it down on their own..this was before i knew what a voodoo even was but learned about it later..so i went back and looked..it was gone..

i think people are realizing..these stupid bot tools just don't work worth a crap and are stopping wasting their money on junk that botters even get bored with when they go in and scoop up a whole stores worth of inventory in one click of a button..

so he probably needs us to draw up some attention for his fading product..
since he seen we were not giving him the attention he wanted from the notecard..he's now trying to get it with his blog..
*yawns*
i just don't think he is very good at the attention thing..
only 40,000 have used his product?
thats like sayng..40,000 have used my spoader and my other stuffs too \o/
ya i think i'll save my sweating it out for a time that deserves it lol
he's really not attention worthy..
he's just trying to be...
if he was..there would be a lot more going on than this thread..the inworld group is still pretty quiet..and when it does pop..i think monkey may get mentioned for a moment..and thats usually about the notecard..then back to important stuff..like helping people with their viewers and other things to help them with security issues..

i just don't think he is getting the results he was wanting from all this..

there are only 14 reviews on his product in the last 3 years 3k members in his group..which are not all there for his products..
plus you know people have figured out how to get passed it..so they are racking up the bucks on a sploader because people think nobody can get passed the security(False Sense of What?)..when it's a walk in the park for most that just look up how to get past it..
ya i don't see him or his threat being anymore that a blip on the radar maybe once in a great while..
the last time i triggered anything of his was last year..not counting the time we were testing out his GZ kicker lol
as much as i shop..it should have been way more than that for it to be something to be worried about as far as his threat goes..

i bet he wouldn't like it if we started to talk about how to get passed his security like we did RZ's..we haven't done that yet to him..he should be thanking us rather than making threats..
i mean it's real easy to start talking about sploaders and how easy it is to play them even if they think they can stop you..but we don't do that..

Kotonaru

I don't get the joke, but even googleing the IP is enough to get an answer (though I'm not sure if that's correct - is this really this easy?)

Kara Spengler

So you know her intentions how exactly....?

Unless you have proof of her doing something wrong kindly shut up.

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Kara Spengler

Umm, someone DID negotiate? Monkey sent the n/c during a short lull (due to the calendar) in those negotiations.

Kara Spengler

So you believe everything on that blog entry? Then I ask again, where are my copies of the notecards he talks about. I feel cheated.

Kara Spengler

Try to keep it straight. Since Lias is an alt of Monkey it is another Monkey alt. Honest mistake.

Potosi

Well if you go look at the new user posts of the last couple days Beetle is the only one that LiasBlue says hello to. At least I assume she says that as I don't see what she posts. So I think that little bit right there is another nice big ole' clue.

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Imnotgoing Sideways

Pretty much, yeah. (^_^)People did. What was found was a frantically flailing fraud fighting for fluff. We've seen that he's willing to cheat. We've seen that he's willing to lie. We've seen his use of terms like "brute force" and "DOS" with zero contextual connection or any actual understanding of the actual meanings of the terms. At best; It's the most blatant case of Don Quixote Syndrome I've seen in a while. (^_^)

Brute Force Attack: Trying every character combination possible to break through a password protected asset. ~FLAW~ Groups don't have passwords. So, in what context was a BFA used to gain access to said group? (O.o)

DDOS Attack: Using distributed computing methods to overload a server host's resources. ~FLAW~ While not completely impossible given SL's HTTP methods and resources, it would require a far larger group of active users running scripts on practically every sim on the grid... Or one heck of a failure of a web host. In addition, an LSL script's HTTP methods don't reveal the user of the script and/or their group affiliation. So, how were these "backtraced" to GZ members? What was the revealing string of data? (o.O)

Simple answer: He's making stuff up and using internet buzz words to bolster figments of his imagination in a frantic effort to make himself appear to be a victim of acts impossible. (^_^)y

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Qie Niangao

Much too generous. He's just a simple scammer trying to part dopes from their L$s.

It is only for profit that he's set up Greenzone as target for a public crusade, in hopes some hysteria may get people to use his HUD and then maybe pay for his other crap.

Those products are the same business model: contrive a social problem for which he sells a technical "solution".

Hence my earlier remarks about "arms merchant". It really is his whole shtick.

bladyblue

Negotiate successfully. Not fail miserably.

Because GZ members not involved in that negotiation contacted him during that lull.

bladyblue

You don't buy Playboy for the articles and you don't join Woodbury (a notorious griefer group now perma banned from SL) to use a sandbox. You join griefer groups to grief. Your group becomes a griefer group when you throw your hands up and proclaim "it's an open enrollment group, I have no control. Those griefers just showed up and joined."

bladyblue

Thats not true Immy. Unya stated here that when he complained to her about being griefed by Greenzone Members, she "explained to him it is an open-enrollment group, but he couldn't grasp the concept". That's the exact same thing the leaders (and you) proclaimed about the griefer group Woodbury for years.

No we haven't.

Dismissing someone's complaints about your group is not going to make the problem go away - as you know.

Eris

Fabricate a reason or a justification? Seems if the Green Zone HUD calls out his products as privacy invading, that's reason to want it gone.

Maybe he decided destroying the Green Zone group held better prospects for success than further negotiations with them. If he is being griefed by members of GZ, what he did won't stop it, it will encourage more of it. With obvious consequences for GZ's reputation. If they aren't a griefer group, try to make them one.

Well played.

Ceka Cianci

meanwhile bear bot still beats the system and gets sploder monies while monkey bot hunters say they are pros at getting bear bots ..more on this at 11..now for the funeral reports..
two bot hunters remains found in a wild life fantasy sim that was *turns off the TV*.....Bleh..the news is boring

bladyblue

No one in their right mind is going to delete their sploder because a Greenzone HUD tells them to. Monkey knows he has nothing to worry about. He has a reliable customer base.

I said members of GZ not involved in the negotiations took it upon themselves to contact him and interrogate him even after he had made some adjustments to his products as Unya asked. Some of the Greenzoners that contacted and questioned him verified that fact in this very thread.

That's what happens when you take a stand against a griefer group.

Well, GZ is a griefer group now. I don't know of that is entirely monkey's doing.

The only way to win is to not play.