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Romana · 04-14-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Andromeda Rage

Oh yeah, definitely a pain... I used to be too tall for my liking, and then finally decided once and for all to scale myself down. It took forever tweaking all the various sliders... and THEN... reposition/rescale millions of prim outfit parts and accessories...

Thank flying spaghetti monsters for rigged mesh hair (100% spoiled by it now btw; I archived away (stuffed in boxes) all my old prim hair to make it a little easier on my inventory) -- that's one less thing I'll have to resize/reposition if I ever tweak my head size again.

When I started to pay attention to the height slider (finally set it to feet instead of meters) I promptly made my main avi shorter. Not my RL height (considered kid height in SL, at least at the time) but it didn't feel comfortable having her be 6+ feet tall when RL me was only 5'0".
I finally settled on 5'8" for my main, which seems (to me, anyway) to look OK without additional tweaking (I'm still uncomfortable with the edit sliders

).
My alt, however, I left at her default height of around 6'+. She is Sidhe, after all.

Both now wear shapes from the same shop, Body and Soul, which has affordable nicely-proportioned shapes for us slider-challenged types.
My elf self also has a variety of shapes she got on hunts before the one she now wears, none with the invisible horse thing going on, but a number of them with the frowny face and/or too-wide hips.
To each their own, I guess.

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Freyja Nemeth · 04-14-2012, 01:26 PM

I wish I could make my shapes the height they're "supposed" to be, but when I first made a lot of them, there was only the incorrect way of measuring height available and as a result they're all about 18 centimeters/7 inches too tall.

Redoing them all would be too daunting, plus I don't know how well it would even work for the ones that are supposed to be around 160. I know I'd pretty much never get them into a gown again, that's for sure, since I already struggle with skirts all the time.

I've sort of adopted that as my acceptable SL deviation; I decide how tall I want a new shape to actually be and then I add 18 centimeters. Ultimately, the height is limited by proportions; I try not to go over 8 1/4 head tall (I think around 8 looks best in SL, but a lot of it comes down to what you're used to) and I also try to keep my head at max 60 so hair fitting won't be so hard. That puts a pretty hard upper limit on height.

Imnotgoing Sideways · 04-14-2012, 01:30 PM

If you like the way your avatar looks, stick with it. Simple, no? (^_^)y

Freyja Nemeth · 04-14-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Imnotgoing Sideways

If you like the way your avatar looks, stick with it. Simple, no? (^_^)y

I both agree and disagree. SL does allow you to look as you want and you should absolutely take advantage of that. But it is also easy to end up not really looking like you actually intended.

Its very easy in SL to become blind to unintended exaggerations. I've got older versions of shapes and when I switch back and forth between those and newer versions I can't understand how I could have been so blind to some of the unintended flaws.

Sometimes, I try "commercial" shapes and then I switch into one of my own. My initial reaction is almost always "my god, I am so fat". So looking at something for too long does risk making it the norm for your visuals, even if it has problems that you did not intend.

**Aliselia Aeon** · 04-14-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Freyja Nemeth

Redoing them all would be too daunting, plus I don't know how well it would even work for the ones that are supposed to be around 160. I know I'd pretty much never get them into a gown again, that's for sure, since I already struggle with skirts all the time.

.

Skirts are a big issue for me., because of my height.

**Robert Jung** · 04-14-2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggie

The picture in my avatar on SLU is how my AV used to look a few months ago. I always think she looked kind of plan. That was the look I was going for. I always liked that look, but I succumbed to the temptation to make myself a little more attractive so I bought a new shape and skin. Now I think I look like every one else.

.

Maggie?
A gentleman is supposed to be polite and discrete.

But ... um ... it's possible... perhaps, that I've undressed your profile pic with my eyes ;-)

Ingrid · 04-14-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Jung

Maggie?
I've undressed your profile pic with my eyes

Did you find pixel boobs under there?

Maggie · 04-14-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliselia Aeon

Skirts are a big issue for me., because of my height.

That is a problem too. My height is about 5'2". When I'm in a formal gown for Franks or Bellas parts of it always are in the floor.

**Robert Jung** · 04-14-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingrid

Did you find pixel boobs under there?

A gentleman does not tell ;-)

*I think I understand why many women want to create a perfect glamorous avie in SL, but unless the typist goes for non human or purposely unusual, I tend to find "normal female avies" more attractive than Barbie dolls. Normal attractive women are sometimes tall, sometimes short, sometimes very curvy, and sometimes not so curvy, but still very cute.

I appreciate the work women put into their avies and wanted to let Maggy know that glamorous is great, but so called "plain" is sexy too ;-)

*I have a weird, dry sense of humor that doesn't always come through in print, so I sure hope it was clear that I was being silly and goofy but the compliment was still genuine ;-)

Sian Pearl · 04-14-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Maggie

That is a problem too. My height is about 5'2". When I'm in a formal gown for Franks or Bellas parts of it always are in the floor.

The height sliders on Exodus tell me I'm 5'11" and I still have this problem with some dresses.

Myf · 04-14-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ingrid

Anyways we have bigger problems in SL: THE FURRIES

So... what do we reckon are the chances that Invisible Pony Rider furries might become a thing?

roxie logan · 04-14-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sian Pearl

I've been on SL since late 2009, and in the last year or so I've been blogging and taking photos and paying attention to SL clothes and things.

And there is this big bunch of people on flickr and blogs and stuff who love the female avatar shape with the wide hips and the spindly legs that you can see landscape between and the squinty eyes and the huge frowny mouth.

I am aware that this look creates strong opinions. Some people love it and think it's adorable, some people hate, hate, hate it (I and my friend Kitti have an uncharitable but amusing name for the shape which I shall not put here, and if you want to know you can send me a message) and I don't want that discussion.

We know you hate it.

Or like it.

What I want to know is where it came from. Was there a thing out of SL that inspired it? Who started it? Why? I mean, I understand the creation of a counter-beauty aesthetic... but was it that? was it an originally ironic thing that people are now doing unironically? Was the thinking, like, I can't make a realistic girl shape so let's make a cartoonish one?

Enlighten me! I am really curious and intrigued as the origin of this aesthetic.

I know exactly where it came from but I'm under elf obligation to never tell anyone who made it.

Romana · 04-14-2012, 08:25 PM

The Invisible Pony look has begun to affect mesh clothing design. >.
I thought I'd get my alt some more clothes, so I did a bit of hunting. Several of the hunt items I've gotten on both av's have been mesh, and usually the shape is different from the avatar's, but OK with the alpha. But not this time.
This is my alt in non-mesh jeans: Snapshot_009 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
and these are the mesh ones: Snapshot_006 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
not as bad from the front, as from the back: Snapshot_005 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Actually, it looks worse in motion than it does in the photos, but I think you can see it anyway.

Orc · 04-14-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Myf

So... what do we reckon are the chances that Invisible Pony Rider furries might become a thing?

I've never seen a furry frown.

bubblesort · 04-14-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Romana

The Invisible Pony look has begun to affect mesh clothing design. >.

Are you sure the causation didn't go the other way? I mean, maybe there was some mesh item of clothing that became popular among some group of people but it was poorly fitted and they changed their shape to fit the mesh, then others saw them in this shape and followed suit, never knowing what clothing item caused them to use that shape in the first place?

**Aliselia Aeon** · 04-14-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bubblesort

Are you sure the causation didn't go the other way? I mean, maybe there was some mesh item of clothing that became popular among some group of people but it was poorly fitted and they changed their shape to fit the mesh, then others saw them in this shape and followed suit, never knowing what clothing item caused them to use that shape in the first place?

this started before the implementation of mesh on the main grid.

Myf · 04-14-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Orc

I've never seen a furry frown.

**Aliselia Aeon** · 04-14-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Myf

Just..looks...wrong

Aki Shichiroji · 04-14-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Romana

The Invisible Pony look has begun to affect mesh clothing design. >.
I thought I'd get my alt some more clothes, so I did a bit of hunting. Several of the hunt items I've gotten on both av's have been mesh, and usually the shape is different from the avatar's, but OK with the alpha. But not this time.
This is my alt in non-mesh jeans: Snapshot_009 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
and these are the mesh ones: Snapshot_006 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
not as bad from the front, as from the back: Snapshot_005 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Actually, it looks worse in motion than it does in the photos, but I think you can see it anyway.

To be frank the jeans pictured in your post aren't as bad as some. There's one particular brand that comes to mind where the double-wide crotch is visible from a mile away.

Darnk Yun · 04-15-2012, 12:13 AM

Oh no, a new thread to make me want to fiddle with my shape.

Adeon Writer · 04-15-2012, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Maggie

Inhandra, this has nothing to do with the thread here but I have to know, its been driving crazy. What is going on with that chicken in you avatar picture?

Chickens can't move their eyes. The only way they can look around is move their head... to keep the world from being a constant blur, they have become ridiculously good at not moving their head.

Kira Zobel · 04-15-2012, 02:01 AM

I have this huge aversion to cartoony shapes like Nylon's. They freak me out to the point where I either won't shop there or read that blog.

I think it's really cool when people do something different but for some reason I just can't really look at it. Screw my mind.

And no thanks to fish face. I always wanted to know where it sprung from and this thread has been very insightful to that.

Ingrid · 04-15-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kira Zobel

I have this huge aversion to cartoony shapes like Nylon's. They freak me out to the point where I either won't shop there or read that blog.

I think it's really cool when people do something different but for some reason I just can't really look at it. Screw my mind.

And no thanks to fish face. I always wanted to know where it sprung from and this thread has been very insightful to that.

meeeeeeeyow

Darkley · 04-15-2012, 10:39 AM

I have debating whether to post this, because I may get strung up by the masses....

Although I am not a fan of the pony riding look, to be honest, its none of my business what other avatars choose to look like, you can be 8ft tall, a tiny, have boobs bigger than your head for all I care, it's your SL, your choices.

However I do get annoyed when people take it upon themselves to out avatars as 'ugly' or 'fugly' on SLU when the person they are outing isn't around to defend themselves.

Because, you know, I *could* take it upon myself to pick apart your avatar choices and have a good laugh about it with my friends, at your expense.

For the most part, I am glad their is a variety of shapes in SL, because most of time, most of the avatars I see are so fucking boring, all cookie cutter replicas, wearing the same clothes, the same hair the same skin and having similar bland completely forgettable shapes, you couldn't distinguish anyone in a crowd.

I hope that my avatar is distinctive enough that I am recognisable.

Imnotgoing Sideways · 04-15-2012, 10:43 AM

I like your hat. (^_^)

04-14-2012, 01:26 PM	#177 (permalink)
Freyja Nemeth Queen of Innuendo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 330 SL Join Date: June 2nd, 2007 Business: Kanon Shapes Client: Firestorm	I wish I could make my shapes the height they're "supposed" to be, but when I first made a lot of them, there was only the incorrect way of measuring height available and as a result they're all about 18 centimeters/7 inches too tall. Redoing them all would be too daunting, plus I don't know how well it would even work for the ones that are supposed to be around 160. I know I'd pretty much never get them into a gown again, that's for sure, since I already struggle with skirts all the time. I've sort of adopted that as my acceptable SL deviation; I decide how tall I want a new shape to actually be and then I add 18 centimeters. Ultimately, the height is limited by proportions; I try not to go over 8 1/4 head tall (I think around 8 looks best in SL, but a lot of it comes down to what you're used to) and I also try to keep my head at max 60 so hair fitting won't be so hard. That puts a pretty hard upper limit on height. __________________ SL: Otherworldly, Kanon Shapes, Flickr & Plurk Other Sites: Westeros & Blood of Dragons MUSH -"Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?" -"Yeah! It's like goldy and bronzy, only it's made of iron." Blackadder III, Amy and Amiability

04-14-2012, 01:30 PM	#178 (permalink)
Imnotgoing Sideways - Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Darkly Cute :: Ferguson Posts: 6,925 My Mood: SL Join Date: November, 2007 Business: Darkly Cute Client: NOT the same one I used yesterday... (<.<)	If you like the way your avatar looks, stick with it. Simple, no? (^_^)y __________________ Link

04-15-2012, 12:13 AM	#195 (permalink)
Darnk Yun 01001100 01001111 0100110 01000011 01101111 01101111 01101100 0100001 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Location! Location! Posts: 4,369 My Mood: SL Join Date: '06 Business: Darnkeyes! Blog Entries: 1	Oh no, a new thread to make me want to fiddle with my shape. __________________ Ahaha, such a simpleton. It'z so much fun playing jokez on you. I waz only here to see how she waz doing, but I had fun while I waz at it. So long, Sere, au revoir, mon ami! Pleaze dream of moi every night! Oui! ~ Harle http://leechmouth.deviantart.com/

04-15-2012, 02:01 AM	#197 (permalink)
Kira Zobel Sushi0holic You're turning into a penguin, stop it. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 975 SL Join Date: 1/5/06 Client: Firestorm Blog Entries: 3	I have this huge aversion to cartoony shapes like Nylon's. They freak me out to the point where I either won't shop there or read that blog. I think it's really cool when people do something different but for some reason I just can't really look at it. Screw my mind. And no thanks to fish face. I always wanted to know where it sprung from and this thread has been very insightful to that. __________________ Moo.

04-15-2012, 10:39 AM	#199 (permalink)
Darkley I am Legion Filthy Lucre Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: lahndahn Posts: 4,737 My Mood: SL Join Date: 2007 Business: Guerilla Avatar Blog Entries: 2 Awards: 1	I have debating whether to post this, because I may get strung up by the masses.... Although I am not a fan of the pony riding look, to be honest, its none of my business what other avatars choose to look like, you can be 8ft tall, a tiny, have boobs bigger than your head for all I care, it's your SL, your choices. However I do get annoyed when people take it upon themselves to out avatars as 'ugly' or 'fugly' on SLU when the person they are outing isn't around to defend themselves. Because, you know, I could take it upon myself to pick apart your avatar choices and have a good laugh about it with my friends, at your expense. For the most part, I am glad their is a variety of shapes in SL, because most of time, most of the avatars I see are so fucking boring, all cookie cutter replicas, wearing the same clothes, the same hair the same skin and having similar bland completely forgettable shapes, you couldn't distinguish anyone in a crowd. I hope that my avatar is distinctive enough that I am recognisable. __________________ Prickle Poses Available inworld and on the marketplace

04-14-2012, 08:25 PM	#188 (permalink)
Romana Senior Member lost in time... Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 725 My Mood:	The Invisible Pony look has begun to affect mesh clothing design. >. I thought I'd get my alt some more clothes, so I did a bit of hunting. Several of the hunt items I've gotten on both av's have been mesh, and usually the shape is different from the avatar's, but OK with the alpha. But not this time. This is my alt in non-mesh jeans: Snapshot_009 \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! and these are the mesh ones: Snapshot_006 \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! not as bad from the front, as from the back: Snapshot_005 \| Flickr - Photo Sharing! Actually, it looks worse in motion than it does in the photos, but I think you can see it anyway.

04-15-2012, 10:43 AM	#200 (permalink)
Imnotgoing Sideways - Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Darkly Cute :: Ferguson Posts: 6,925 My Mood: SL Join Date: November, 2007 Business: Darkly Cute Client: NOT the same one I used yesterday... (<.<)	I like your hat. (^_^)

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