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Old 09-27-2011, 11:01 AM   #176 (permalink)
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Also, I never used the term, and originally just said that I was hitherto unaware is was an insult.
I'm still not using it towards anyone. And if folks would like, I can go and post the original post I made, along with the scolding i got for daring to say 'Hey, unaware it was an insult, now I know.'

Since I never have used it towards anyone, what the hell do I have to apologize for? Not knowing? If so I apologize, but it seems kind of obnoxious to be harsh to people when they didn't do something, and I won't back down from that.
I apologize for one more derail, but I'd like to clear this up...

There is no need for you to get this defensive. Nobody actually asked you to apologize for anything. I know you didn't know, which is why I tried to explain what the problem is. The only reason I kept going is because you kept trying to rationalize the use of the term. Nowhere did I accuse you personally of continuing to use it or using it insultingly. I also don't see where my tone has been "harsh" -- I see it as being calmly explanatory.

You're making this about you when it absolutely isn't. This is not personal at all.

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I remember there was a virtual world I tried... either Twinity or Kaneva or something, where they actual had it set up so you could upload an image of your real life face and basically make a photo-skin of yourself. Do you folks think that's cool, or creepy?
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:05 AM   #177 (permalink)
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:11 AM   #178 (permalink)
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When I rejoined in July 2009, I saw a lot of ads for taking photos of your face and adding it to your avatar. It just seemed a bit odd to me to do that. I never met anyone who used that feature, though.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:33 AM   #179 (permalink)
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About the derail: I also didn't even -know- anyone could use that term about a real person. To my sheltered in-the-middle-of-nowhere Finnish self the word was associated -only- to SL or manga/anime of a certain sort and was generally more ...hermaphroditic-magical-people than anything else.

Joshua, that story was absolutely sickening, but I'm glad you told it. Yegads. What is -wrong- with people?

I learn so much on these forums. I'm serious, that's not any kind of a sarcastic remark in case the tone comes out wrong. Thank you.

...I feel like I should finish this with a tie-back-to-the-original-subject, hmm. Oh! I've used bobs on Sonya for so long (because I hated how the long hair glitched through the body) that a couple of springs ago I went and had a haircut in RL. A major haircut. From the waist to just above shoulders.
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Old 09-27-2011, 11:48 AM   #180 (permalink)
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I kinda went about the hair thing the opposite way... I cut my hair in RL because I needed a new look, then I started wearing it shorter in SL to match. The fact that I no longer have hair stabbing through me every time my avatar bends or moves its head is a huge plus, though. It's always been a pet peeve of mine. (Maybe mesh will help?)
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:01 PM   #181 (permalink)
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I kinda went about the hair thing the opposite way... I cut my hair in RL because I needed a new look, then I started wearing it shorter in SL to match. The fact that I no longer have hair stabbing through me every time my avatar bends or moves its head is a huge plus, though. It's always been a pet peeve of mine. (Maybe mesh will help?)
I sometimes match hairstyle to my av or the way around i always like best the hairs closer to mine.
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Old 09-27-2011, 12:03 PM   #182 (permalink)
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The fact that I no longer have hair stabbing through me every time my avatar bends or moves its head is a huge plus, though. It's always been a pet peeve of mine. (Maybe mesh will help?)
Oh, it does. I bought a long mesh hair and it's awesome. Mind you, I'm so used to the flexi-hair movement now that if the avatar is moving a lot or dancing or whirling about for whatever reason and the hair doesn't move, it looks strange. But for regular walking and standing about and calm AO movements the long mesh hair is pretty much perfect. Of course now I've used bobs and updos for years, so it's developed into a preference that won't change just because of more options, but it's really nice that the options are there!
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I haven't seen mesh hair, but I don't know what would be worse to me. The piercing the body, or the stiff mesh hair. I guess I'm so used to hands/arms/hair disappearing into the body that it doesn't bother me as much anymore.
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Old 09-27-2011, 01:24 PM   #184 (permalink)
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I'm saving up for a fez. Fezzes are cool now.

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Old 09-27-2011, 02:01 PM   #187 (permalink)
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You like black hats, don't you Veritable? Could there be some insinuation in that?
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:02 PM   #188 (permalink)
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:03 PM   #189 (permalink)
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:10 PM   #190 (permalink)
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I haven't seen mesh hair, but I don't know what would be worse to me. The piercing the body, or the stiff mesh hair. I guess I'm so used to hands/arms/hair disappearing into the body that it doesn't bother me as much anymore.

Wasabi Pills has some rigged mesh hair that lots of people have gone down to get. Unfortunately it doesn't fit my head *quite* right (close but not right) and since it's rigged I can't adjust it *at all*. But it doesn't look as stiff as non-flexi prim/sculpt hair does, even with that.

Eboni made an animated ad here on SLU for Hucci which uses that hairstyle here:

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You can see the hair "in action" as it were.

It's the one with the teal dress. I assume the one with the purple dress uses mesh hair also but I don't recognize the style. I know the one in the teal dress is definitely from Wasabi Pills and is mesh, and doesn't have the "stiff" quality you imagine.

I actually have problems with flexi hair (not enough to not wear it, but it's annoying) because it's generally TOO flexi, by a lot. You constantly look like you're walking in a wind tunnel. No matter how much Im dancing, my hair looks more like that mesh style than the kind that flies all over the place just jumping around.
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I'll have to check out the demos out then. I've spent way too much recently, so I have to cut back so I don't cut into my RL budget too much. Would be good to see the demos in action, as the hair in the ad doesn't look as bad as it sounded.
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Nothing at all.. currently I'm a clockwork midget with a ponytail.
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My avatar constantly changes because I'm always skinning and therefore take on whatever look the skin I am working on evokes. I have recently tried making my AV look similar to RL me but it's probably going to be temporary. Those of you that know me in-world know that I spend most of my time in my skybox, butt-naked and waddling around with the default newbie walk. I think I've flashed every friend by now

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I think part of the problem is how pervasive the term s*****e is. There are many who simply don't realize it is an insult because it is so commonly used. Until I started reading posts here regarding it, I had no idea it was a derogatory term. Then I met the MtF who called herself shemale, which confused me even more for a bit.

This isn't referring to people who literally do use it as a slur, but I think many who use it simply just don't know any better, because they've never met them personally.
In general the term is a slur, with connotations of the porn industry. There are some people who identify that way, especially if they have little contact with the rest of the trans community.

It is best to treat it like the n word. That is, some people may use it as a self-descriptor but most consider it an insult. It also has different meanings when said by someone about themselves (or possibly someone in the same social group) and when said by someone else.
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I have seen quite a few profiles (both in SL and other worlds) mention that the person is a "Shemale". It rather surprised me, for some reason.
They are highly unlikely to be transgendered and would blanch at the idea of someone even suggesting such in RL.

There is a growing movement to use the term genderqueer, particularly among 20-somethings. Some trans people in SL will also deliberately mix their avatars .... like an obviously male avatar wearing a dress.
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My avatar constantly changes because I'm always skinning and therefore take on whatever look the skin I am working on evokes. I have recently tried making my AV look similar to RL me but it's probably going to be temporary. Those of you that know me in-world know that I spend most of my time in my skybox, butt-naked and waddling around with the default newbie walk. I think I've flashed every friend by now
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