[Fred Rookstown]

There. Let's try to keep this about the JLU and LL's inability to care.

For those of you just dropping in, the JLU (Justice League Unlimited) in SL has been caught with their pants down doing some really, really inethical shit at the very least, and perhaps even illegal stuff at the other end of the spectrum.

The JLU is an anti-griefing organization in SL that flies around the grid dressed as DC comics superheroes, which they're currently in the shit for, but that's not the problem. The JLU also compiles information about residents in a secret wiki called Brainiac. There, they rip into people's lives, collating information on activities, habits, personality, alts, IPs, location, and RL identities and contact information. They have even contacted the family of a dead griefer to confirm his status.

TheListSL, who claims to be a disgusted JLU member with legitimate access to the wiki in question, has given me access to his copy of the wiki and a small fraction of the ARs, IRs, and "roles" the JLU records of each resident, as he is going on break. I will be irregularly leaking shit on the JLU here and on trollmanual.com, a wiki I help administrate hosted in a country that actually reviews DMCAs before taking down sites.

Previous thread is here, summary thread here.

IF PROK (or anyone else) STARTS TROLLING, CLICK ON THEIR STUPID NAME AND IGNORE THEM. She's already shat up the previous thread, let's not continue it here. If the thread content is relevant and people concentrate, we might be able to get LL to do something worthwhile to these douchebags.

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ZenMondo's BrainiacWiki Profile, as Requested.

Nothing really interesting, just a bloated sense of ego.

File:User-ZenMondo Wormser.jpg - TrollManual

Note: the number of ARs filed on duty is wrong, as there are no ARs in the database. I did get the fucking jludbselect database query extension to work, though.

[SimonLeo]

question 1: What proof do we have?
question 2: How do we make LL do something about it?
question 3: If LL does nothing what then?

[Fred Rookstown]

Originally Posted by SimonLeo

question 1: What proof do we have?
question 2: How do we make LL do something about it?
question 3: If LL does nothing what then?

• We have proof in the form of screenshots, a database dump, and wiki articles. Nothing admissable in court, of course, because none of us can get a warrant.
• LL is not prone to giving a shit unless they could be implicated in breaking regulations, or if the data could affect sales.
• Then we get the feds involved for wire fraud and violations of various state and federal privacy laws.

[Artemis Fate]

JLU accusations

IP Gathering/Alt Detection:
Evidence:

• The List's IP list - May be fake, according to Soft, Chalice Yao backs up the idea that they're probably fake
  
• Phantom Zone Alt Detection - Phantom Zone was originally designed to detect alts, but that feature may not have gone past the design stage according to ZenMondo, owners of the Phantom Zone have confirmed that there seems to be no attempts to redirect media towards a suspicious site, however it does automatically use the JLU's list of "griefers"
  
• Police Department Alt Detection - JLU used a system developed by the Police Department to track alts, but may have stopped once it became against ToS

Summary:
JLU tracked IPs and used systems to do alt detection, but claim to have stopped once the ToS was changed. Phantom Zone does not do IP collection or alt detection. JLU hooked into SL Police Department's alt detection system, but claims not to do that anymore, they offer no proof they have stopped besides their word.

Past Status: Proved true
Current status: Probably not true

Collection of Personal Data on Residents
Evidence:

• Nikola Shirakawa's wiki page
  
• Datamining
  
• DeadlyCodec's death discussion
  
• Imnotgoing Sideways page
  
• Joshua Nightshade's Wiki page (There's proof of this all over SLU)
  
• And honestly many many more to list all.
  
• ZenMondo and GreenLantern Excelsior claim all personal data has been removed from the wiki

Summary:
JLU gathers real life information on many people, not all of them considered to be griefers, invalidating the claim that they need it in case one attempts a real life crime and they want something to send to the police. They claim to have removed all real life information from the wiki, but have made no attempt to back up this claim.

Past Status: Proved True
Current Status: Probably true

Inappropriate real life contact
Evidence:

• Maverick Grunfield uses gathered real life information and a fake identity to contact Woodbury
  
• Attempts by the JLU to get Tux's website shut down through his ISP (which simply redirects them to Tux himself)
  
• JLU discussed using real life data to threaten/blackmail Nebula in real life, as far as I can tell, they didn't actually do this.
  
• GreenLantern Excelsior contacts sister for status on DeadlyCodec, considering the earlier log where they discuss ways to check if Codec is telling the truth about being near death, it would seem the purpose is to verify his fatal illness. Note: As far as I can tell, I can find no reference to GLE saying he called her on the phone, every instance I see says he contacted her through facebook only

Summary:
The JLU has used gathered real life information in at least one case to get websites removed, Tux has claimed they attempted to discredit him at work, and they were seriously discussing (but never did) using information to threaten another SL Resident with.

Past Status: Proven true, though uncommon
Current Status: Unknown

[Elysium Hynes]

Originally Posted by Artemis Fate

It would be nice to go over all the evidence we've got, see if anything is really substantiated or if it could be hearsay.

- So far we have a lot of info on inworld disclosure, they openly chat in their inworld meetings about RL info on other residents.

-Mass AR´s done tru faked info, skype chats that where used to report someone inworld. Constant abuse of the AR system.

[Artemis Fate]

Well I know there's been some confusion on a few matters. Like: Did GreenLantern call DeadlyCodec's sister, or did he IM her via Facebook? Have the JLU been doing IP gathering and alt detection even after this was made against the ToS? etc. There's been some mixed responses there. I think I might try to go isolate all the various accusations against the JLU and find the evidence for and against it if I have the time.

[Cummere Mayo]

I would suggest getting together a dossier of all the places they have peoples personal information listed, unedited, and send it to the simi valley department.

[Elysium Hynes]

Originally Posted by Artemis Fate

Well I know there's been some confusion on a few matters. Like: Did GreenLantern call DeadlyCodec's sister, or did he IM her via Facebook? Have the JLU been doing IP gathering and alt detection even after this was made against the ToS? etc. There's been some mixed responses there. I think I might try to go isolate all the various accusations against the JLU and find the evidence for and against it if I have the time.

He admited to have called her on the thread. and it shows somewhere on one of TheList´s first leaks. The summary thread might be helpful.

[Ceka Cianci]

i'm curious..if someone gathers ip's and then gives access to others to go in and pick up ip's..is that not still IP gathering?
just curious..

[Imnotgoing Sideways]

From what I see, LL is already reacting and possibly working up to a solution. Yes, I'm being trusting and optimistic, but, I've watched them respond like this 4 times before. Events as I see them right now are the Labbies' MO. (^_^)

Anything that leaks from here on out will be a catalyst for a process that's already running. (^_^)y

[Elysium Hynes]

Originally Posted by Ceka Cianci

i'm curious..if someone gathers ip's and then gives access to others to go in and pick up ip's..is that not still IP gathering?
just curious..

It is and until a week or so ago the PD was doing just that for them.

[Cathiee McMillan]

Originally Posted by SimonLeo

question 1: What proof do we have?
question 2: How do we make LL do something about it?
question 3: If LL does nothing what then?

1.) Proof for Linden labs is most of this.
Alot of it is Good enough to start an investigation on.
2.) Send Linden Labs direct e-mails explaining your issues with a group like the JLU being allowed to run around the grid collecting data and harassing certain groups of residents.
3.) Some have already taken specific issues to the authorities.
If you were victimized and or stalked by any of this group i would suggest you contact the authorities. Fred can look at their wiki and send it to you in private so you can see what they have if they have anything on you.

Ely can confirm it as well, since Fred gave her the ability to see the wiki as a 3rd party observer to keep Fred Honest about what is being posted.

For me,
I don't want this group in my second life. I guess that is why i don't leave my sims much and my partner and I are always now checking our land for any signs of something we don't know about.

[Fred Rookstown]

OK, naptime. Next up: Meeting logs from the start of this year onward.

[Prokofy Neva]

Originally Posted by SimonLeo

question 1: What proof do we have?
question 2: How do we make LL do something about it?
question 3: If LL does nothing what then?

Yes, I'm with SimonLeo on this.

You don't have *cases*. Proof is something exemplified in *cases*.

CheerGirl's claim of spy prims put on her sim just didn't pan out. It turned out the JLU was invited to police her sims, she was even a member of the JLU group and had the right to move prims and may have done so to set up the JLU to look as if they were spying. It's a murky story that doesn't pass the sniff test.

Other examples of the outing of privacy don't wash as the information was in the public domain.

If the "gotcha" proof that the JLU used their nefarious machines to link RL and SL, they say they don't do that anymore after LL's change in the TOS, and nobody has been able to prove that they do.

Any effective campaign against vigilantes in SL can't be led by the notorious head of the obscene and racist group the Patriotic Nigras (Fred Rookstown) or any of the numerous alts and dodges here in these threads from the notorious Woodbury University. Both these groups and their griefer members are permabanned. The JLU is not permabanned.

The call to LL should involve basics, like discouraging the patrolling of welcome areas by having their own staff patrol; disassocating themselves from vigilante groups, but most importantly, swiftly and effectively dealing with griefers themselves instead of joining them for yucks on their sims.

[Prokofy Neva]

Originally Posted by Elysium Hynes

- So far we have a lot of info on inworld disclosure, they openly chat in their inworld meetings about RL info on other residents.

-Mass AR´s done tru faked info, skype chats that where used to report someone inworld. Constant abuse of the AR system.

The test for any laws and regulations like this is whether *it does harm*. Lindens have the rule about disclosure not just to be fanatical Fiskists, but to prevent harm.

If you talk about Cory Doctorow in SL, you are disclosing his RL. But that doesn't harm him.

If you talk about a now-deceased highly-public former griefer who publicly wrote himself, that doesn't do any harm.

If you talk about a highly public and flamboyant editor of a tabloid which engages in constant industrial sabotage against LL and SL because it involves a developer from a competing platform, and you reference his very public linking of his SL and RL, that's not harming him, but it's legitimate public criticism needed in a democratic society.

So the cases have to be legitimate and they really have to involve garnering RL information not accessible in the public domain and used with intent to harm. The Lindens have the discretion to interpret disclosure narrowly or broadly but their jurisprudence suggests that merely discussing somebody in chat isn't going to be an actionable offense, but IM'ing someone with RL info with the intent to blackmail them or get them to do something would be.

[Prokofy Neva]

Originally Posted by Elysium Hynes

He admited to have called her on the thread. and it shows somewhere on one of TheList´s first leaks. The summary thread might be helpful.

No, he IM'd her on an open, public Facebook page and *she IM'd him back*. The constant misrepresentation of this incident has got to stop as its a red herring and not proof of harassment in any way, shape, or form.

He has said here, in an interview with me, and on the Krypton Radio blog that he *contacted her via Facebook*. End of story.

[Prokofy Neva]

Originally Posted by Artemis Fate

Well I know there's been some confusion on a few matters. Like: Did GreenLantern call DeadlyCodec's sister, or did he IM her via Facebook? Have the JLU been doing IP gathering and alt detection even after this was made against the ToS? etc. There's been some mixed responses there. I think I might try to go isolate all the various accusations against the JLU and find the evidence for and against it if I have the time.

He IM'd her on Facebook. BTW, LL promotes the Facebook/SL link and promises privacy. But in this case, the person in question had an open, public FB he openly linked to his SL avatar. So it's not a case.

[Tuxette Magic]

If Linden Lab has already had numerous complaints about the JLU, why have they not suspended their accounts and investigating them?
Surely all it takes is for LL to check their logs???

[Ceka Cianci]

Originally Posted by Tuxette Magic

If Linden Lab has already had numerous complaints about the JLU, why have they not suspended their accounts and investigating them?
Surely all it takes is for LL to check their logs???

exactly This ^^
for the past 5 years i'm sure they could find enough times they had broken disclosure over and over again..and who knows what else..

[Couldbe Yue]

The Justice League Unlimited (JLU) was formed because it believes it can protect Second Life denizens from those that the JLU term "griefers".

To do this, they believe they need to compile and use a database called Brainiac to store all known information on people in second life. To this end they have created a database that can be accessed from inworld where they record the avatar name, uuid and any other detail they consider relevant. They also create articles on avatar accounts where they detail any real life information they have found. These are stored in what they call the Brainiac Wiki (bwiki).

The JLU currently claim they have over 212,000 avatars listed in their database and a separate wiki that contains the real life details of xxx avatars. Some of these avatars are minors.

To further their aims of gathering as much information as possible, one of the functions of their information gathering HUD called the League HUD which has the facility to remote monitor chat. There is no indication that the JLU members with access to this feature have ever been advised of the use of this to comply with the second life ToS.

As part of their mission to identify what they call griefers they used the resources of a group called the Police Department who have been collecting IP addresses of any avatar that is scanned by them. The method for the capture of this information has not been identified. All that is known is that the details are held offsite.

Some of the current allegations against the JLU are:

• The JLU are using the copyright and trademarks held by DC comics without licence,
• The JLU have contacted the university of one of their identified griefers to complain about [a website]. The JLU member who did this, did so using a false name that was identical to the name of an employee of DC comics.
• A JLU member tracked a person they identified as a griefer via Facebook, and who they believed to be dying, identified a family member of this person and contacted them and pretended to be a friend, both to grief the person by asking this family member to pass on their best wishes and to also confirm the death for their records.
• They have stalked and harassed ex JLU members who have left the group due to their practices,
• The JLU harass people inworld [think about The The for a start] and falsify ARs to enhance the detail given to ensure the account has disciplinary action taken against it.
• The leader of the group has published real life details of people who he believes to be against him on a google website [I can get the link for this ]
• They are currently harassing a disabled veteran who they believe [zip, write everything up in one post so I can link to it]
• They routinely disclose real life information about inworld accounts, in chat conversations, to others within their group
• The JLU kept radar scanners and possibly chat spy loggers without the consent of the land owner on an unnamed region. [CheerGirl, this is where you need to write a post so I can link to it}

[nnn] means proof/citations are needed.

anything else and is anything incorrect? I'll keep updating this and adding citations where I can without breaching rl details. Anyone who has an allegation should write up a post detailing all information and I'll link to it from here.

[Artemis Fate]

Originally Posted by Prokofy Neva

He IM'd her on Facebook. BTW, LL promotes the Facebook/SL link and promises privacy. But in this case, the person in question had an open, public FB he openly linked to his SL avatar. So it's not a case.

If you're going to post, can you please not double/triple/quadruple post? You can do multiple quotations in one post.

[CheerGirl Allen]

in 2010 it looked like the source of the Bwiki leak had used a program like webcloner or Teleport pro to create an exact replica of every single JLU Page. Has TheListSL does the same thing this time?

A cloned copy of the Bwiki is the best evidence needed to prove w\out a doubt the JLU has continued to collect Real Life Private and personal Data on videogame players. For what purpose may or not be as relevant as the way the JLU Collected it.

Cyber Stalking

[Ann Otoole]

btw cyber stalking and cyber bullying has been collapsed into real life stalking and bullying as far as law enforcement is concerned. Just because it is on the internet has no further relevance for prosecution of crimes.

So if you are stalking and bullying you might want to read up on the anti bullying initiatives going on. And counter stalking and counter bullying is still stalking and bullying.

[Artemis Fate]

I edited my first post to change it to a list of JLU accusations and what evidence we have for and against it. Currently incomplete in both list of accusations and evidence linked, but it's a start. I'll edit it to include new stuff as it's pointed out or found.

[Couldbe Yue]

Originally Posted by Artemis Fate

I edited my first post to change it to a list of JLU accusations and what evidence we have for and against it. Currently incomplete in both list of accusations and evidence linked, but it's a start. I'll edit it to include new stuff as it's pointed out or found.

great, it means I don't have to do it