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Old 08-17-2011, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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JLU Harvesting IP Addresses?

I follow someone on Twitter (she is also here, so I'll her come forward if she wants to) and she tweeted that JLU is sorta pulling a RZ and provided this

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(hoping that link works) and I looked at the blog (not from JLU apparently, but outing the members) and saw that the blog itself has a list and explains that they got it from the JLU:

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We have had a lot of emails asking us where we acquired this list of IP's etc. The answer is a simple one, but is one that will shock a lot of users and people who have trust within the JLU. The IP database is extracted from the JLU's "secure" PhantomZone. This is solid proof that the JLU are harvesting your IP's and linking them to your avatar for whatever use they see fit. This is an invasion of privacy and a severe violation of the ToS, something in which lead to mass bans for Emerald creators and is frowned upon majorly by Linden Lab. If you see your name on this list then you should be worried, but to avoid further concern, you should block media to the KryptonRadio.com domain and the IP of the server which it is held on, as within the server is Kryptonians.net which is also used for various things.

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Old 08-17-2011, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I follow someone on Twitter (she is also here, so I'll her come forward if she wants to) and she tweeted that JLU is sorta pulling a RZ and provided this link:



(hoping that link works) and I looked at the blog (not from JLU apparently, but outing the members) and saw that the blog itself has a list and explains that they got it from the JLU:

from their blog:

If this is what I think it is, then this first came out during the redzone thread and is referred to a few times in the thread. Someone (and I can't remember who) went to talk to them and they mentioned it as part of the interview. No one was interested then - too busy getting uptight over redzone I suppose.
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Old 08-17-2011, 04:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That thread was so long that I missed that part. Shame really....ah well, nice to know harvesting is alive and well and hitting a stream near you!
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The IP list is just a few days old, too. Glad to see that the JLU have learned from the RZ disaster.
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Ironically, I can't find that developer build of official that had the media filter. It's pretty much vanished. Blargh. And KirstenLee never added it to KV. Double Blargh. For this fiasco I suppose I'll still be without a filter.
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Ohh, I still have to add that one..
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Ironically, I can't find that developer build of official that had the media filter. It's pretty much vanished. Blargh. And KirstenLee never added it to KV. Double Blargh. For this fiasco I suppose I'll still be without a filter.
It got rejected because the MoaP part wasn't working properly. From what I understand from Tonya's comments, MoaP is heavily tied in with other essential services that can't and shouldn't be filtered.

That is my interpretation of the JIRA comments anyway.

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-1346
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does leaving media/streams off unless you go into preferences and actually click it when your at a trusted place work? I can't remember.
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Ohh, I still have to add that one..
If you ever do get around to a binary, is it going to be put up on your repository under downloads?

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It got rejected because the MoaP part wasn't working properly. From what I understand from Tonya's comments, MoaP is heavily tied in with other essential services that can't and shouldn't be filtered.

That is my interpretation of the JIRA comments anyway.

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-1346
So, it's just a matter of fixing some things and resubmitting, or is this a true canning of the feature for official? I don't really care about MoaP. I do care about my security.
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I just posted a question about this and a link to this thread over on Rodviks profile feed. Hopefully we will get some actual answers or information a bit faster this time.
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So, it's just a matter of fixing some things and resubmitting, or is this a true canning of the feature for official? I don't really care about MoaP. I do care about my security.
The JIRA is still open so I guess once Tonya has looked at it she will update the comments.

You know about as much as me on this one, I'm watching the JIRA but haven't spoken to Tonya since before the MoaP stuff was added.
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The IP list is just a few days old, too. Glad to see that the JLU have learned from the RZ disaster.
The IP list is continually growing, from what I can tell, they still have this system active even though they are currently aware of the leak. I imagine they are quickly going to remove all offending items in order to protect themselves from further scrutiny. I still have access to new entries and there are more than what is posted. I'm not going to sit and keep adding more as they arrive though, it is time consuming and pretty pointless as I have already achieved what I set out to do - expose the truth about their activities.

JLU may wear masks, however removing them shows that what lies underneath is just another griefer.
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what is JLU? Are they like the SL police or something silly like that?
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That is exactly what the JLU is.
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That is exactly what the JLU is.
I think it would be more appropriate to say that is exactly what they WANT to be. They also want to be beyond (or ignore) the rules of SL and be able to do anything they want in pursuit of the goal of being the police inworld.

Some of their members are good honest people. One time after Thiea made a blog post about the starting zone problems a bunch of them went down there to try and help any new people out for a few days. But the core of the group seems to have a case of 'power corrupts' that goes to the bone.
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I think it would be more appropriate to say that is exactly what they WANT to be. They also want to be beyond (or ignore) the rules of SL and be able to do anything they want in pursuit of the goal of being the police inworld.

Some of their members are good honest people. One time after Thiea made a blog post about the starting zone problems a bunch of them went down there to try and help any new people out for a few days. But the core of the group seems to have a case of 'power corrupts' that goes to the bone.
I concur. I think a lot of them probably are honest, however the vocal and core members are griefers. They have a sense of entitlement, like they are above everyone else all of a sudden just because they know how to click on the Report Abuse button in an advanced way. The mass AR's, the propaganda and the shady closed doors wiki shed light on what their real motives are. Power.
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The list also has Drone1 Resident as Kalel Venkman's alt, who happens to be the same person who hijacked the w-hat group and ejected all ~900 members.
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what is JLU? Are they like the SL police or something silly like that?
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In Kalel's case, he knows what he is. A cyberterrorist criminal who uses everything he possibly can to try to control people through intimidation. He might think he's ultimately doing more good than harm, but he knows what he's doing is wrong. He just does his best to deny it. He is an extremely unhinged and delusional man who believes everything he does is in the name of "JUSTICE".
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The privacy bit is ridiculous I remenber clearly Joshua saying they had RL info on him in their wiki when he had never crossed their paths, these folks are delusional at best and freaking scary how LL allowed them to go on with this shit is amazing.
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