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Old 08-18-2011, 05:21 PM   #201 (permalink)
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GLE, grow a pair and apologize to Zip.
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That's really the crux of the issue. Linden Lab should be the one policing its HUBS and other public areas.

Unless JLU has been officially vetted by LL to do so? I'm not aware of any (publicly announced) arrangement like that.
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Old 08-18-2011, 05:24 PM   #203 (permalink)
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This is an interesting example of how people's memories can change over time, and events can seem totally different than what actually happened. Here is the JLU wiki article I wrote at the time (mid-October, 2009), posted on one of the leaked wiki websites. I copy/pasted a notecard that was given to me, the results of my observations, and the results of my conversation with you. I never saw any misconduct by anyone in that sim, and as a result I never wrote an Abuse Report on anyone. I can't speak for anyone else, but I never heard of any other JLU folks writing ARs on your group either. So if some of your group members were suspended from Second Life, it was probably not as a result of anything we did. I stood right out in the open using my main character's account and chatting with the residents of the sim who had asked for my help. I never accused anyone of spying and I never did any spying myself. If you can find anything malicious or unfair about anything I wrote there, then I will give you a public apology right here.
And again the entire article itself was entirely based on the word of some people who had issues with Zip at the time and the group. Zeppo was a known pedophile who got outed for hitting on 16 year old girls, Jimmi/Lillith (good job having peoples alts as multiple witnesses) hated the entire group because of some petty drama, and the same can be said for everyone on that list. It was all people who were once members of the group who had a problem with it after pointless drama.

While the article leaves off you saying you think it's all a misunderstanding, there is still a lengthy article detailing the group and saying that it is filled with griefers, and at the time of the wiki being leaked you still had Zip listed as either a griefer or at the very least a possible griefer. All based on some petty inworld disputes that shouldn't have had anything to do with you to begin with.

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Okay, this is the point where I say "I can't tell you that."
From this I'm guessing that Drone1 Resident is in fact Kalel as you would have no reason not to just deny it if not the case.
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Old 08-18-2011, 05:26 PM   #204 (permalink)
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Okay, this is the point where I say "I can't tell you that."
While it is admirable you do not outright deny it, your censorship serves as an admission. If this was not the case, you would have said no there is no info. But thank you.
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In light of this admission from GLE I have deduced that the list is therefore factual. I then went on to notify all the goons that Drone1 Resident was/is Kalel.
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More importantly if it's true that Drone1 is KalEl then he didn't just kick a beehive by doing what he did to W-Hat but he's also stirred up the rest of us who his group has wronged in the past. You can't do stuff like this and not piss people off.

I don't know exactly what happened with Drone1 and W-Hat but if KalEl does have access to that group it might help defuse this situation if he gave it back. (if he has the ability to do so.. I don't know what happened with it)

If he is an 'anti-griefer' perhaps he should practice what he preaches and stop causing drama. That would be the adult thing to do anyways.

Incidentally I don't know if that would fix this situation (after all you kick a beehive and you get bees) but it's worth a shot.
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In light of this admission from GLE I have deduced that the list is therefore factual. I then went on to notify all the goons that Drone1 Resident was/is Kalel.
Damn not the Goons again i hate them everytime they send me a pack of copyboted stuff and i mention it they try to crash me with teleport requests , yes they are that smart.
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So then this isn't complete bs?
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This group contains a high number of alts, and a fairly high number of /b/tards, and a number of known griefers, including some of some notoriety.
That wiki entry was copy/pasted from another article I wrote. Whoever created the entry wrote an introduction, including the speculation about b/tards and griefers. My part of the article begins with "I noticed the following cry for help on the Second Life blog:"
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You basically have no facts when you choose to target people, you just go off of someone elses statement no matter how true or false it is.
That's not what happened. I would never write an Abuse Report based on what someone else said, even if it was another JLU member. I prefer to make my own mistakes. I posted the notecard that I had been given just so everyone would know what to look for. When no one did any griefing, I left without writing any ARs, and posted my analysis of what I had found, which was...a peaceful sim.
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Seems like you accused us of spying there. That was a place we hung out. You came and spied on us and listened to a minority of people who were using you to harass us.
That was a daydream, not an accusation. If I harassed anyone in that sim, please let me know who it was so I can apologize to them in person.
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We're not griefers. We never have been.
I never said you were. The Miramare residents said that. Read it again:
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I had long chats with Lillith and evo today. They are both very enthusiastic about the prospect of removing the griefers from their infohub, and they are happy to get help from us.
The Miramare residents identified who the griefers were. As you can see by the article, I was unable to find any griefers.
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Who are you to try and remove any of us from an infohub when we did not do anything wrong.
Go and read the article again and you'll see that I never tried to remove anyone from the infohub.
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Old 08-18-2011, 05:50 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Damn not the Goons again i hate them everytime they send me a pack of copyboted stuff and i mention it they try to crash me with teleport requests , yes they are that smart.
You are confusing the somethingawful forum goons with the idiotic griefer group "kinggoon".
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You are confusing the somethingawful forum goons with the idiotic griefer group "kinggoon".
Well damn kids should pick different sounding names is hard to keep tabs on them. Now i feel old, so get of my lawn
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GLE, You just had me and another person tell you those were people trying to grief us, and that they were the minority there and yet you're claiming the "miramare residents" said that as if it was some huge demographic. It wasn't. In fact (as pointed out) you even list alts on that wiki backing each other up.

That wiki is clearly insulting and filled with accusations towards me and my group. On top of that I like that you call it a daydream but it doesn't change the fact that you said one of my members was "scout"ing. A scout performs reconnaissance and gathers information. So does a spy.

Now you did state that you never said that but I pointed it out clear as day and the fact that you have this page full of bs that is not true and YOU even linked it just shows how warped you guys in the JLU can be.

You were wrong. You just showed everyone you were wrong. You even went so far as to say if you harassed anyone you'd apologize. Now I'm telling you, your group spied on and harassed my group and (according to that wiki) that's me and 153 other people who you owe an apology too.
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:03 PM   #214 (permalink)
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Well damn kids should pick different sounding names is hard to keep tabs on them. Now i feel old, so get of my lawn
faq - w-hat

The faq is a bit out of date since the group was murdered by the JLU, but that should answer any questions you have about w-hat.
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faq - w-hat

The faq is a bit out of date since the group was murdered by the JLU, but that should answer any questions you have about w-hat.
I know who you guys are i´m just terrible with names
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Go and read the article again and you'll see that I never tried to remove anyone from the infohub.
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I had long chats with Lillith and evo today. They are both very enthusiastic about the prospect of removing the griefers from their infohub, and they are happy to get help from us.
So you are in an anti griefer group and someone is talking about "removing griefers" from an infohub and you're happy to help them but you're really going to try and tell me that you didn't try to remove anyone from the infohub?

Were you guys just talking about politics and the conversation steered itself towards removing people from infohubs?
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Thanks. I'm glad I met you, Nebula.

As for the list, it looks bogus to me. Why is Kalel Venkman the only JLU member on the list? I've placed several Phantom Zone nodes here and there, and I've been within range of several more. Why is my name not listed anywhere?

These guys made a list of names, but it came from their own database, not anything owned by JLU. JLU doesn't collect IP addresses, because that is a violation of the Terms of Service.
Because Kalel tested it on himself, never expecting the data would go public. I'm quite certain the JLU, as a rule, use media filters
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Because Kalel tested it on himself, never expecting the data would go public. I'm quite certain the JLU, as a rule, use media filters
Seems the most reasonable answer to it in my opinion.
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That's really the crux of the issue. Linden Lab should be the one policing its HUBS and other public areas.

Unless JLU has been officially vetted by LL to do so? I'm not aware of any (publicly announced) arrangement like that.
Linden Labs does not have an in world police force to patrol the grid looking for TOS and CS violations, there is no “Officer Linden”. What the Lab has chosen to do is rely on the community of users to spot infractions of the TOS and CS and file Abuse Reports (AR) which then can be investigated by Lindens on the Resident Experience Support Inworld (RESI) team. Linden Lab has wrongfully or not put the burden of discovering violations of the rules to the residents of Second Life.
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Linden Labs does not have an in world police force to patrol the grid looking for TOS and CS violations, there is no “Officer Linden”. What the Lab has chosen to do is rely on the community of users to spot infractions of the TOS and CS and file Abuse Reports (AR) which then can be investigated by Lindens on the Resident Experience Support Inworld (RESI) team. Linden Lab has wrongfully or not put the burden of discovering violations of the rules to the residents of Second Life.
Which is the most logical method of policing the grid. BUT this becomes a big problem when the Lindens start becoming biased towards certain residents, and believing their word as truth without checking the facts.
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Cris please delete this post when you come online.

Thelistsl is also responsible for posting Jcool's Phox's day oh's and several other people's info on their site if you check google cache. They removed their names prior to posting jlu's
TheList is possibly one of their backup sites.
Reporter.

Reporter.

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