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Old 08-18-2011, 11:42 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Then why is Kalel Venkman's name on the list? If it were a JLU list with all JLU member names meticulously scrubbed from it, wouldn't Kalel's name be the first to be deleted? Or is the group simultaneously crafty enough to remove all JLU and stupid enough to forget the founder?
You really want an honest answer on the intelligence level of anyone that patrols SL in spandex fighting crime?
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:29 PM   #153 (permalink)
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I am annoyed. I have media on and allow scripts to auto-start it. I even allow other people's attached mediatextures to auto-play.

But I have yet to get my IP on one of these lists.
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My mum always warned me to avoid men in tight spandex with superhero delusions. Said something about it cutting off the circulation to their best bits.

Now, if we're gonna have some nerd wars, I think we really ought to get a crapload of dice... D6, D8, D12 or D20 - take yer pick! I can't find the D4's though, some orc ate it. Oh and a Frickin' Big Rulebook and a ruler. Small painted arm of snotlings optional.

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My mum always warned me to avoid men in tight spandex with superhero delusions. Said something about it cutting off the circulation to their best bits.

Now, if we're gonna have some nerd wars, I think we really ought to get a crapload of dice... D6, D8, D12 or D20 - take yer pick! I can't find the D4's though, some orc ate it. Oh and a Frickin' Big Rulebook and a ruler. Small painted arm of snotlings optional.
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Then why is Kalel Venkman's name on the list? If it were a JLU list with all JLU member names meticulously scrubbed from it, wouldn't Kalel's name be the first to be deleted? Or is the group simultaneously crafty enough to remove all JLU and stupid enough to forget the founder?
GLE please don't take this the wrong way but you do not write scripts and seem to be finding this hard. I will try to make it simple for you.

When I wrote a security system many moons ago I used this procedure:

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Inworld device:
Detection made (send query to webserver)

Webserver:
Query received:
- Is on admin whitelist (return allowed)
- Is on owner whitelist (return allowed)
- Is on owner blacklist (return denied)
- On no list (return allowed or denied depending on owner preferences)

Inworld device:
Communications received:
- Is allowed (add to temporary in sim list)
- Is denied (teleport agent home and to land ban list)
I added the officers of my group to the admin whitelist so they could go check for faults and stuff. But I never added myself to any of the lists because I wouldn't have been able to test it.

Also this is its simplest form, PZ obviously has a lot more steps to go through. But I would assume it is scripted to allow JLU members without checking IP.

I must say you are doing a good job in following the pattern I said you would. I am impressed. But as at the moment there is no proof I would like to ask you to answer one simple question (please answer this honestly, I would hate for you to be proven a liar):

- Is/was Drone1 an alt of Kalel?

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Now, if we're gonna have some nerd wars, I think we really ought to get a crapload of dice...
Give JLU a re roll, they all got high Strength and Dex but put low Wisdom and Charisma...

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D6, D8, D12 or D20 - take yer pick! I can't find the D4's though, some orc ate it.


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Oh and a Frickin' Big Rulebook and a ruler.
I cant answer that, but I do want to post this...

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I was of the hope this insanity would simply fade away in favor of the latest "OMG my BFF is dating a furry" or "look at these prim boobs!", I suppose it won't. Not that easily.

About the AV-IP list. I can tell you until I'm blue in the face that it is not ours that the PhantomZone, which I myself co-coded, does not and never has done this but, that is pointless. We are being demanded to prove a negative, which logically cannot be done.

The burden of proof lay with the list providers, it is they who have made the claim it comes from Phantom Zone. Let them provide proof of that. In the absence of such proof the only reasonable responce is doubt of those claims.

Other issues I will not address here, that is of course my right.
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I was of the hope this insanity would simply fade away in favor of the latest "OMG my BFF is dating a furry" or "look at these prim boobs!", I suppose it won't. Not that easily.

About the AV-IP list. I can tell you until I'm blue in the face that it is not ours that the PhantomZone, which I myself co-coded, does not and never has done this but, that is pointless. We are being demanded to prove a negative, which logically cannot be done.

The burden of proof lay with the list providers, it is they who have made the claim it comes from Phantom Zone. Let them provide proof of that. In the absence of such proof the only reasonable responce is doubt of those claims.

Other issues I will not address here, that is of course my right.
There's a thread about buttcrack going right now. (^_^)
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I was of the hope this insanity would simply fade away in favor of the latest "OMG my BFF is dating a furry" or "look at these prim boobs!", I suppose it won't. Not that easily.

About the AV-IP list. I can tell you until I'm blue in the face that it is not ours that the PhantomZone, which I myself co-coded, does not and never has done this but, that is pointless. We are being demanded to prove a negative, which logically cannot be done.

The burden of proof lay with the list providers, it is they who have made the claim it comes from Phantom Zone. Let them provide proof of that. In the absence of such proof the only reasonable responce is doubt of those claims.

Other issues I will not address here, that is of course my right.
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It's the last stage, too. Nothing else is needed, since the information didn't come from JLU. The response from both JLU PZ programmers was essentially identical: "Phantom Zone has never done this."

It would be interesting to know where the information came from. Apparently someone is doing some heavy duty IP monitoring. Kalel is the only JLU member on the list, so wherever the monitoring location is, no JLU members go there. I suspect it's one of those mafia dramafest sims.

Oh, and Tux, a "whitelist" used with a list like this would be a separate list of names that would exempt people on the big list from being targeted. Or at least that seems logical. I'm not a scripter, but it seems to me that a whitelist wouldn't go in and edit the master list of names to remove certain people.

BTW, I was wrong and Ryo was correct. Collecting IP addresses inworld is not a ToS violation. However, the Community Standards say this under section 4, "Disclosure:"


So it's fine to chat about it here, but be careful talking about people's alts inworld.
When I restarted secondlife in 2006 I was at the warrior transition battalion nursing brain damage, back/neck damage, and both knees and one ankle messed up from Iraq/Army injuries. I started a group called the Zombie Civil Rights group because I was a fan or horror films (and am now in film school to make them one day). The group became a support group that grew to 150 members of people who would even call me in real life to check on my health.

There were about 5 or 6 people that were hanging around the infohub we were at that we didn't invite to be members because they caused drama. So they got annoyed and told the JLU we were griefers. JLU members came and "spied on us, false reported some of my friends which then got them suspended, and the JLU was constantly used as threats against us."

You personally spied on us while telling other JLU members in some wiki where you were datamining information that our members were spies.

So while you accused us of being spies you were spying on us.

Afterwards you did put that you thought the whole situation was just a popularity contest and a misunderstanding but this was already after the harassment/damage was done and you had put a whole page of just "complete bs" about me and my group into your wiki.

Sometimes I do watch some of the insane things people do in secondlife but that doesn't mean I ever break ToS. Ever.

People joke and have fun in Secondlife and sometimes things get out of hand but is this what the JLU likes to do, harass severely disabled veterans?

Don't you think I have enough problems to begin with? Do I really need you and the JLU to crap on me in a virtual world?
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Nah, it's only an intermission and a recap of things we can see in SL anywhere we go. THIS thread is far more interesting.
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Incidentally to Green Lantern E, and Kal El and all of the JLU. I am a war hero. I was injured serving my country and I have several awards that literally say meritorious service for actions taken on objective that completed the mission and actions taken on objective that saved lives.

Griefers bother me so much less because they don't pretend to be something they are not.

But you guys harassed a war hero because you want to play 'pretend heroes'. Honestly, the JLU is just a bunch of raging thugs and your leader is a testament to paranoia and an example of why vigilantism is outlawed in most of the real world.
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Hi - Is this the Superhero RPG thread ? If so I'll write up my character's background in a little while but thought I'd introduce Super Lolcat to the rest of the crew




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... I can tell you until I'm blue in the face that it is not ours that the PhantomZone, which I myself co-coded, does not and never has done this but, that is pointless. We are being demanded to prove a negative, which logically cannot be done. ...
There would be no negative to prove were Phantom Zone open source and all its data fully public from the start.

That's the only acceptable approach for such things, as made painfully obvious by the RedZone debacle. Else: Drahma.

So perhaps the project's whole point all along has been to generate maximum drahma, which goal is now met. So congratulations and quit your bitchin'.
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So no one seems to care that w-hat, a group that was over a half decade old with over 900 members had everyone kicked out by Kalel?
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